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    Here's another Betty Boop cartoon that I found:
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    I said I'd do this years ago, but today I finally remembered! Today I went into the SCAD library and asked to get some scans of a few backgrounds from Secret of NIHM! I still don't particulalry like the movie (still better than any of Bluth's other ones) but that doesn't mean that everything about it is anything but quality stuff.

    I'm not a fan, so I have no idea who's signature this is on the paintings (all the one's I scanned are from the same artist), but they were done with just gouache on bristol board. The size varies, too.

    Probably silly, but I didn't want to remove any overlays the images had on them (it was bad enough I was handling these things to begin with), so you'll notice them there, as well as any dust on them.

    I just looked around and picked a handful I liked.

    You know, until today I was completely unaware of Photoshop's Automerge feature! It's certainly not perfect, but it's a time saver!

    Oh, I didn't bother to have them scanned, but 007A SC15 BG15 was redone a few times before the crew had something they were content with. Interesting that they save those. Images like that have a big red OBSOLETE written in the corner. But as I said before, I didn't scan any of those.

    The cobwebs in 007A SC40+48 BG40 are an overlay that I didn't want to remove. I have no idea what they used for that effect.

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    It's pretty interesting to be able to look at (heck, be able to touch) animation production work that was already almost 10 years old when I was born.

    If anyone wants the above backgrounds scanned at 300dpi, I've got them in a zip file for you.

    http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?913ecal6j6qmvqo

    If anyone has requests for scans, post an image of what you're trying to get and I can try to look for it! SCAD's been trying to catalog all the stuff Bluth donated for the last 6 years. Unfortunately they don't seem to have the Hell scene from All Dogs Go to Heaven on file. I really wanted that one.

    NIMH is the only one I should be able to reliably find stuff for. Any other Bluth projects will be hit or miss. Anything owned by Spielberg or Fox isn't available, so that means no Land Before Time, American Tail, Anastasia, or Titan A.E, period.
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    I don't know what people think of the Columbia/Screen Gems cartoons of the '40s, but while Kitty Caddy and Cockatoos for Two were funny; they were the worst of golden age cartoons. (Petey Pelican, Rocky Road to Ruin) However, here's a Youtube channel that has a lot of them:
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    I just found an animated gif I was stunned by, and am wondering if anyone has any info on it.

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    In my search I found this which is a live action version of the same idea, but no leads on this specific animation.

    I just love that every frame has a different person. If you know what it's from, who did it, or even who might have done it, I would love to know.
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    This thread needs more Tex Avery.





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    Man, I love Screwy's final design, I really do.
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    Been jumping around here and there, and you know something that bugs me? Why hasn't Disney put out dvds for all of their 90's series, yet? Sure, they have Darkwing Duck, Rescue Rangers, Gargoyles, and Ducktales.

    But there's no Bonkers, no Goof Troop, not the Aladdin series (yeah, that existed!), Timon and Pumbaa, c'mon! Every single one of those shows is linked with a successful film that they love making special editions up the wazoo already! They'd rather keep the direct to video mess, though. What the hell?

    Speaking of which, is it just me or was Jim Cummings playing a lead role in EVERY Disney tv cartoon from the 90's? I'm not complaining, but I wonder what his work schedule had to have looked like in those days.
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    Japanese animation studio Production IG is working on a 10-minute short film, and also willing to prove to the current market that original animation projects ARE viable despite the recession.

    I personally think that anyone who cares about animation as an industry should pitch in, just for the sake of sending a message. I don't even LIKE the concept that they're going with.
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    I have agree that this thread needs more Tex Avery coverage, and it's surprising that he never liked Screwy considering the humor Tex was synonymous with. Guess Droopy provided a strong sense of contrast that Screwy didn't. By the way, what do people here think of Friz Freleng, UPA, John Hubley after he left that studio, and Jay Ward?
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    I really don't know what to think about UPA. I either hear they're the blight of the Earth or a smart innovator that fell off the tracks over time.



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    Here's a fun looking character I've never seen. Clearly she was one of the side characters they put in later Betty cartoons.

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    They redesigned her for a later cartoon and it's WORSE than the changes they did to Betty!

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    Gah! What the hell is that thing?!
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    http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/pres...to-the-new-era

    GOOPA Inc., is a creative IT service development company based in Tokyo and Bangkok. The company is developing an animation focused crowdfunding website, Anipipo (http://en.anipipo.com). Anipipo provides a new way for animation creators to find funding to support the production of their animation. Creators will also be able to utilize Anipipo as a platform to get connected with their fans from all over the world.
    Huh. That's interesting.
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    Here's a neat site that I found that specializes in early Hanna-Barbera cartoons:
    http://yowpyowp.blogspot.com

    The Betty model sheets: The second one looks like it had too much Iwerks/Disney influence.

    Finally, here's a couple of Filmation's cartoons:
    Rod Rocket (Which shows what that studio started out as.)


    Dick Digit (Which looks like everything they did from '66 onward.)
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    Here's another interesting pilot, this time it's a show from Nickelodeon can be summed up as a semi-precursor to Avatar: The Last Airbender
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    Some copy paste from the Just Watched thread.

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    Finally, I watch a Miyazaki film after a good long while. My Neighbor Totoro. Last thing I saw was Princess Mononoke back in high school. It played on TCM, so I got to see it. Yeah.

    No wait, I saw Ponyo back in 2010. The angry baby was hilarious.

    Seriously, I'm just not interested in Miyazaki. I can say his character designs are distinctly his (bonus points for a Japanese animation studio that goes out of their way to portray teeth. Japan in general needs to stop being afraid of drawing teeth, and it's always refreshing to see it.), the animation is decent, and the environments are phenomenal, but that doesn't mean I have to actually like his films.

    Small rant here.

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    And one thing that I hate hearing is comparisons of him to Disney. Sorry, when you actually know the huge strides Disney made for the art form, it's a very silly thing to say.

    Does he make good family-oriented animated films? Sure. That doesn't mean you can compare him to the guy who's studio developed and canonized the 12 principles of animation and broke ground that everyone else was too afraid to attempt, with the first feature-length animated film. (He actually wasn't the first to do sound cartoons, despite popular knowledge claiming so.)

    Animation AS AN ARTFORM owes ALOT to Disney, and if he was removed from history, the medium would be a hell of alot different, probably for the worst. And I'm not even a Disney fan!

    Miyazaki can't compare to that, whether you like his films or not. Just say he makes good films.

    Ok, got that out of me, onto the movie.



    I occasionally switched from English to Japanese as I watched (I do that alot when I'm able to), and I have to say, I HATE the father's Japanese voice. He sounds like a damn robot. Everything else is fine. I can switch back and forth without any major issues.

    I have to wonder if there was ever a crazy group that would claim that the movie would teach kids to pester sleeping forest animals. The whole scene where the little sister meets Totoro made me think "What if some kid tried that shit with a bear in real life?" There's no way I'm the only one thinking that if this weren't a Miyazaki film, this movie would end with a mauling.

    The dust creatures in the house were bad enough. Each scene with them in the first half hour could have been rewritten for a supernatural horror movie like The Grudge. "Don't go in the attic, you'll get your jaw ripped off!"

    And I'm pretty sure I've seen that cat bus in my nightmares somewhere.

    Anyway, it was a movie with really awesome backgrounds.



    Now time for me to get longwinded!

    For the last month I've been watching the first season of Sailor Moon. The two main reasons being for a really nerdy project I've been bothering with on and off since last year, and just to say that I've finally done it.

    I initially tried starting a few years back, but at the time I couldn't stand the run-of-the-mill monster of the week formula. Heck, I STILL haven't finished Heartcatch Precure (Oh, but I will, count on it) because it burned me out back in August.

    But since then I've been able to tolerate alot more stuff. If I can sit through the first 30 or so episodes of Fairy Tail over a weekend, a mediocre shonen series that constantly squanders it's own potential with lazy writing that gets WORSE the more you think about it, then I can tolerate a formulaic magical girl show.

    To prevent this post from being too large (too late, huh?), for everyone's benefit I'm gonna spoiler the bulk of it, so that the people who don't care can just move past it.

    Just trying to be considerate.

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    It's a shame how only 3 members of the main cast appear to have any real personalities: Moon, Mask, and Mars. I like the IDEA of Mercury and Jupiter (they were always my favorites), but the fact is that the former is one note, and the latter doesn't seem to have a life at all. But Venus gets the worst of it, and it's a serious shame I'm saying this.

    For those who don't know, Venus was actually the original Sailor Senshi, not just canon-wise but publication-wise. She came out first in her own solo comic, and Moon came out later, eventually ending in an assimilation, essentially.

    Before Venus becomes part of the team in Moon, she's an established hero talked about constantly by everyone. But (in THIS show, at least) she never actually appears until the very last arc of the first season, to become the last member of the central team. Despite her origin, she's the blandest character I've ever seen in this show, and there's NO reason she should be!

    I'm gonna assume there'll be character development in the later seasons. It seems to me that at this point it got pushed aside for the plot. Yeah, it's got one.

    But just because the protagonist has a clear personality doesn't necessarily mean you'll find her tolerable as a character. I can see people finding Usagi EXTREMELY annoying, petty, stupid, and useless. But that's the entire joke. The assigned leader of the team is actually the one LEAST qualified for the role, due to some destiny silliness or whatever that she eventually has to face and grow into.

    The entire show is about how incompetent Moon is, despite her "chosen one" status. Every other Sailor Senshi is smarter, braver, and stronger than she is, from the certified genius with a 300 IQ, the serious badass who was able to take on a general AND monster of the week with her bare hands before getting powers, to the one who had an established solo career (complete with licensing*) LONG before anyone else ever got powers. And yet they have to play second banana to a complete loser because "destiny" says so.

    But I can buy the joke just fine.

    *I'm not kidding. In the show, Sailor Venus has tons of merchandise with her name and face on it. From video games, to toys, to a show within the show. It's not clear if she's making any money on all this stuff, but it's amusing to think about.

    I'm currently in the final 10 episodes of the first season, with Tuxedo Mask getting brainwashed and turned evil by the villains, Moon learning her true destiny and stuff, and having to face up to it.

    I've liked how at every 10 or so episodes they try to mix things up by switching out generals to the main villain who have different goals/styles/whatever when it comes to their villainy. If you didn't guess, the generals get switched around because they get killed for failing too much. But for a monster of the week show, it breaks up the monotony.

    You've got the first general (who's the blandest) setting up scams across Tokyo to drain a mass amount of souls. The second finds the old method lazy and decides to pinpoint and drain from strong souled individuals (people with talents and drives) by possessing their tools, which turns out to net alot better.

    Once the third comes along, the soul draining isn't needed, but finding the seven chaos emeralds rainbow crystals is the new goal, with means awakening seven indivuals around Tokyo who are reincarnations of demons sealed long ago. But upon the fourth, the goal is just "kill Sailor Moon before she gets too powerful thanks to number three's screw up". It just gets interesting from having the rogue ally get captured and brainwashed into evil.

    The main thing that always irks me about these kinds of shows is how much they waste monsters. I mean how they come up with cool character designs that deserve to be around for more than one epsiode. I've never understood the logic behind making something cool just to discard it right afterward.



    But yapping over, it's watchable, and of course nostalgic. At least it doesn't piss me off like Fairy Tail does, despite how cheesy it might be. I can just say I can tolerate alot more these days. But "Taxi!" still sucks, and "Satan Met a Lady" is still absolute shit. Yep, still not over those movies.

    I COULD potentially restart the live action version, but...damn. Outside of the AMAZING scenery chewing of the actress playing the main villain, it's... probably crossing the line with how surreal a show like this should be allowed to be. But god damn, is it hilarious and awkward. Yeah, I'll probably set some time to watch it in full.

    But Heartcatch comes first. Despite the stupid monsters of the week (the complete opposite problem) and one of the cute mascots literally defecating magical items (in a "cute" way, I might add) every episode (I wish that was a joke, but I've yapped about that before, and the worst part is that it starts off as a gold liquid); the leads are likeable, the generals are fun, and the fighting is alot cooler.
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    Watching the new version of Hunter x Hunter, because it's a Jump series on my list (It's also from the same guy who made Yu Yu Hakusho). From what I've seen, I don't even like it. But this bit stood out to me.

    Original comic (1998)

    For anyone confused, you read from right to left.

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    Anime adaptation (1999)




    Anime adaptation (2011)

    Only a url because I can't post more than 1 video per post. I forgot when they started doing that, but whatever.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWLvCLk5zOs

    It really seems like anime these days seems to go out of their way to tone down violence or gore, but the more I think about it, it seems both versions had to do something to get approved by the censors. They just go about it in different ways with different results.

    But at least the 1999 version SHOWS the heart, and follows the original scene to a t!
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