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    [Amateur in 2011, Professional by 2013] SKETCHBOOK

    hi everyone, i'm a little new here, anyway, here's my sketchbook i'm a little familiar with some concepts like values but I can't seem to really apply them to my work yet, still struggling, so that's why I'm here to learn.

    you can be hard on my work or future works, i won't cry. critiques are very much appreciated. Thank you.

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    Hello guys, I thought I'd formally introduce myself to the community. My name is gel, in my mid-20s (yes, I'm old) and currently working doing layouts.

    Although I've been drawing since I was a kid, I really haven't been interested in the visual arts until I was in my early 20s. It was only after looking at some amazing digital paintings on deviantART recently that I became interested in concept art, and thought to myself that perhaps I could do it too, and that I could be a professional in this field some years from now.

    So here I am trying to teach myself. I haven't attended any formal art classes, so I hope that you guys can help me get better by pointing out weaknesses in my work and giving pieces of advice. Thanks

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    So here are some of my drawings:

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    Well you and I have the same goal, and it looks like you are on the right track. That cat drawing is pretty awesome. Keep doing life drawings and you can only improve. Also try copying some drawings that you think use value well and that might help you figure it out.
    My Sketchbook would benefit from your critiques.
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    Thanks anonanon, yeah, i'm trying to learn values. I would often use b&w photos and draw them while studying the value scales that they have, although it's still a struggle.
    If you have the time, please check out my
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    some new sketches

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    *Trying to learn values (from A. Loomis' "Figure Drawing..." book)

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    *trying to learn values but I'm afraid I failed

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    *thought I'd draw an elf lady, whatever
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    Hey, I saw that you posted on my wall and decided to look at your sketchbook, I really like your cat that's probably one of the best pieces I've seen on sketchbooks in a while. Keep up the awesome work!
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    Here we go again, value study, i think i can see values by squinting my eyes (even if the object is colored) but still can't render it properly on paper.

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    * this guy's from A. Loomis (i feel like i'm just shading my drawings)
    * my own observation tells me that the guy has a large nose and the eyes are set wide apart?

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    * read from somewhere that i should strive to draw characters in dynamic poses cause they tend to be more interesting, so i will in the future
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    next week i'm gonna do anatomy, the whole week

    anybody here, guys, generous enough to share their cg art school syllabus, i'd like to have something, a guide as to how i will go about studying cg on my own. my purpose is to have an idea of where to start, what stuff to read first, things like that, thanks
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    a little update
    I included the time spent on every drawing, and will do it always from now on

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    will draw more
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    Here's a little update everyone, I need discipline to draw more and more esp when real world things (like work) get in the way

    Although I think I'm spending way too much time on some drawings, I need to "time" myself to gauge how well or how fast I will be drawing in the future, but I guess it takes time and lots of practice to be quite fast at working (because I read and I know that it's true, that this industry always has tight deadlines and professionals need to work fast but with quality still in their work)
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    Skulls again taken from an Anatomy book
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    from Loomis' "Successful Drawing"

    * Also I've been reading about light basics which I still don't understand quite yet
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    If you're just teaching yourself, I think that there's a big difference if you'll just draw and draw whatever interests you, I mean, if you'll be studying the concepts at random, and a structured kind of learning where topics are studied in order, like what students go through in art schools. I need order/structure in my learning. so I'm researching what topics to study first, if anyone could help, I'd be grateful
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    Well you seem to be on the right track and you already have a great book to study from, andrew loomis' successful drawing. Structure and construction are important aspects to study but so is observational drawing. If you want to know about construction, Robert Beverly Hale has an informative book on the subject. Art schools typically have a foundation year which is composed of life drawing/figure drawing, 2d design and 3d design along with other things. If you want more structure in your art regimen you should make a schedule of things you want to work on and try to stick to it. I wish you the best of luck.
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    Great stuff so far. Your doing good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KT View Post
    Well you seem to be on the right track and you already have a great book to study from, andrew loomis' successful drawing. Structure and construction are important aspects to study but so is observational drawing. If you want to know about construction, Robert Beverly Hale has an informative book on the subject. Art schools typically have a foundation year which is composed of life drawing/figure drawing, 2d design and 3d design along with other things. If you want more structure in your art regimen you should make a schedule of things you want to work on and try to stick to it. I wish you the best of luck.
    Thank you. Yes, I really find "Successful Drawing" a very good source of information, esp when it comes to the fundamentals. Thanks also for mentioning Robert Hale, I haven't heard of him before I will try to find more about him. (I've seen some anatomical drawings on Google Images and they're mind-blowing!)

    Yes, I will definitely make a schedule of the topics to learn first so as not to waste time and become a bit more organized when it comes to studies. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by tronrobot View Post
    Great stuff so far. Your doing good.
    Thanks Although my work still needs a lot of improvement. Been reading Loomis this morning and if I remember it right, he mentioned in one of his books that when you're using a pencil, you can limit even up to just 4 value scales to use in rendering the form in light - and these are white, gray, darker gray and black, or in my understanding, what he meant was, you only need to render the light, halftone and shadow. (Please correct me if my memory/understanding is wrong.)

    Looking at my skull studies now, I'd say that they're a hodge-podge of grays and they're just all over the place. Again, I learned from Loomis this morning that it's important to place the correct values in the right planes to properly render the form in light. If the values are not properly placed, then it would look like the light is coming from several different directions which would make the drawings less convincing.

    I also see something wrong with the profile view of the lady I copied from Loomis, been wondering why his illustration is very convincing while mine isn't, I think I know now. In his illustration, the lady seems to face a bright light, mine isn't. I think it's because of the shadows, mine doesn't have a sharp edged shadow, it's somewhat soft. Also, the line (contour?) on her forehead and nose is quite dark, contour that is in a bright area needs only a light line weight.

    Here's my understanding based on my readings of several books:

    Bright + Strong + Short Distance Light to Object ----> Shadows Dark and Has Sharp Definition
    Soft + Long Distance Light to Object ----> Soft Defused Shadows

    * Well, this is how I understand these concepts right now, if you guys think I need to be corrected, you're reactions are welcome, Thank you
    * I wish I could apply this understanding into my work slowly
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    Hey man, thanks 4 the sketchbook visit.

    Yeah i rekon thats the way to go, simplifying it in the 4 values. Its something ive done sometimes but not often, i guess its better to work out things simpler than attempting to get as much value transitions as possible?

    And yeah..." it's important to place the correct values in the right planes to properly render the form in light" this is definately true, wen i get this correct (sometimes) it looks much more realistic (wen im copying from reference) as aposed to just working it out in my head, which is never realistic atall. Looks like i gotta read loomis again! ive read his book once (figure drawing for all its worth) but i think i gotta go back to it. And really sink in wat hes talking about instead of just scimming thrrough. That side portrait of the lady from loomis is pretty damn good tho! and 15 minutes? very nice. I guess really LOOKING at how loomis draws his faces/figures is time well spent, maybe even more than just sketching . (taking the time to see how he goes about his light/shadow etc.) anyways. talk soon
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