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    Obama Call for Artists

    Just a heads up if anyone is interested in this. Ad popped on FB this afternoon. I won't be adding my 2 cents I have so much to do elsewhere, but I think I'd do a contemporary realism piece depicting an opium field with happy workers in the sun....


    "Obama for America is seeking poster submissions from artists across the country illustrating why we support President Obama's plan to create jobs now, and why we'll re-elect him to continue fighting for jobs for the next four years.

    Your poster can address the broader themes of the President's plan or pinpoint a specific aspect, from supporting small businesses to rebuilding roads and bridges for the 21st century. For more on the desired specs..."

    http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/artworks-submission

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    Oh wow, that's a pretty big deal - thanks man (lady)!

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    ...I'll support him once he gets rid of ObamaCare...

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    That says a few things. They're trying to recapture Fairy's iconic poster. Their expensive marketing team can't come up with anything. So what they'll do is put the call out to a bunch of people who will gladly give up their hard work for a smile and a hand-shake.

    I know, I know. "But it'll be famous! Part of history! etc" Plenty of commissioned pieces are a part of history. But buying artwork isn't hip. It just doesn't have the right feel.

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    So, let me get this straight...

    The Obama Administration wants a poster (which will presumably be seen by millions everywhere) to advertise President Obama's plan to create jobs as a part of his campaign for re-election but they don't wish to compensate (as in monetary payment) said artist for his/her hard work and effort (i.e. doing his/her job)? Now, can that be considered an "irony?"

    Please, correct me if I'm wrong. I just didn't see anything about compensation for this other than an autographed print.

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    Well, a poster signed by the first black president would be worth ALOT even on the street right away. 20 years from now it would probably be priceless.

    But I agree that it is tacky all around, still great publicity. Any artist would have it made with that kind of showing. (seen by millions is nothing to sneeze at)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naomi Ningishzidda View Post
    Well, a poster signed by the first black president would be worth ALOT even on the street right away. 20 years from now it would probably be priceless.
    And how much of that worth will the original artist see?

    This is spec work. Spec work hurts everybody no matter who offers it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arenhaus View Post
    And how much of that worth will the original artist see?

    This is spec work. Spec work hurts everybody no matter who offers it.

    Obama's signature is already going for $1300 on the low end so i guess the answer to that question is based on the artist's IQ, and publicity also has monetary value.

    Even though I don't agree with many of Obama's choices, anything that pisses off the Nazis trying to take over our government, like supporting a black man in office, is fine with me. I don't buy into the idea that spec work hurts everybody. Competitions have been some of the most fun and engaging events in my life.

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    What he isn't going those re-use the 1930's Hitler propaganda style posters again?(hey go compare get freaking history book made before 1980) We as Artist should be part of anything these Political BS in DC is pushing. None of them care about Us just for their jobs and the Money and power they steal from us.

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    I'll be the dumb European and ask: What's the big deal with ObamaCare?
    Bonus question: How much tax is deducted from salaries in US? (In the countries I've worked it depends on your situation, but the norm is around 20% give or take)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kweckduck View Post
    I'll be the dumb European and ask: What's the big deal with ObamaCare?
    Bonus question: How much tax is deducted from salaries in US? (In the countries I've worked it depends on your situation, but the norm is around 20% give or take)
    In the US we've had a long history of not wanting socialized medical care. It goes back a lot further than Obama, and probably further than most people here were born. Obama wanted to pass legislation that would give the US a healthcare system like Canada or some European countries. But it turned into a huge fiasco and the bill is nothing like what it was supposed to be. It was dubbed Obamacare for political reasons. Mainly, so he can 100% be blamed for it, which helps out Republicans. But people also think that Obama wrote it himself, which he didn't. It was a conglomeration of the senate, house of reps, and Obama. Which is probably why it's a cluster fuck. You see, Republicans and Libertarians don't want to work with Obama. They don't want to be his friend or cooperate with him. Yet Obama wants to work with them. So he's fucking over his voters by not fucking over the children who run this country.

    Our tax system is a mess. I've been looking up numbers for another thread. How much tax is taken depends on what bracket you belong to. Plus different types of income are taxed differently. So earning a wage or salary means you're taxed differently than someone who lives off financial investments or selling property. Just looking at income, the most someone will be taxed is around. And once that's settled, there's a wacky formula used to calculate the final number.

    A single person who earns $379,151 or more will have 35% of their salary eligible for taxation. That doesn't mean they will actually be taxed that much. It's just a starting point for that tax bracket. The real amount paid will depend on what I said above and what deductions the person can claim. The median income in the us for 2010 was between $49,000 and $50,000. The median income is often lower than the average, I can't find the average income level. But a person making that much would have 25% of their income be eligible for taxation.

    I would consider $50,000 to range from comfortable to slightly-struggling, depending on what state you live in. Each state has different average incomes and different average living expenses. $50k is comfortable where I live but in NYC it may be hard to make ends meet with that. If I earned $379,151 a year, I would consider myself wealthy, even though I wouldn't be a millionaire or billionaire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpacer View Post
    So, let me get this straight...

    The Obama Administration wants a poster (which will presumably be seen by millions everywhere) to advertise President Obama's plan to create jobs as a part of his campaign for re-election but they don't wish to compensate (as in monetary payment) said artist for his/her hard work and effort (i.e. doing his/her job)? Now, can that be considered an "irony?"

    Please, correct me if I'm wrong. I just didn't see anything about compensation for this other than an autographed print.
    There's a pretty major difference between doing unpaid work for a corporation and doing unpaid work for a charity or political organization. Donating your time to a cause you support is perfectly legitimate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meloncov View Post
    There's a pretty major difference between doing unpaid work for a corporation and doing unpaid work for a charity or political organization. Donating your time to a cause you support is perfectly legitimate.
    Actually while I agree with the sentiment you're posting, it seems that artists usually have to be the grunts for this. I'm not talking about the artwork for charities, I think that is a great cause. It's generally to help people who cannot help themselves. Politicians fall into being able to help themselves, and they should be helping others.

    The problem with political organizations is that it shows a disconnect with the people they're ironically trying to connect to. I think the message than an artist should get paid because they need jobs too is a very worthy cause as well. Obama and any politician often get money from their cause for lobbyists to support the cause. They're not an organization that need help in the sense, other organizations like the feeding the homeless, helping the disabled need.

    Obama was originally a grass roots effort, his re-election is not.

    Also oh fuck didn't see someone Darwin'd the thread :/

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    I still can't comprehend why people are backlashing against a medical system such as ours (Canadian). We are definitely happy with it over here, and wouldnt trade it for whatever gain there is in not being socialist.

    Oh well, not my business, thats why I live in Canada, anyway. I presume the answer has to due with taxation raises, and perphaps middle class Americans are getting by paying for their own healthcare. oh well.

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    Thanks S.Ketch for the explenation. I'm still unclear what is so wrong with the ObamaCare. I get that it isn't what it was supposed to be, but still...

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