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September 23rd, 2011 #1
The plan includes a beach
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Spartan studies. 1st post meh
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September 24th, 2011 #5
Feeling brave. Trying to convey a woman's face. Its so hard to keep them from looking ugly or like a mans face.
Working from a photograph I try to complete the sketch in 4-5 mins sometimes going back to re-work.
September 24th, 2011 #6
Saw this angle on the neck and I thought i could draw it.
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September 25th, 2011 #7
Check myself before I wreak myself
Scale and proportion studies.
In this exercise I'm drawing with loose structure quickly and checking my proportions and scale.
I get better as I progress.
I was fascinated by all my bad habits and terrible scale perception.
lovin the loomis
September 26th, 2011 #8
Hey there; wow. Proportion drawings. Love your work ethic. I always get like 'yeah, think I got it' after 5 min and then find out the hard way I didnt get it. I like the woman's faces. If you think theu'r too crude or manly, just soften the jaw a bit and your good.
September 26th, 2011 #9
Haha such fun looking studies! I bet you had fun as well, and learned too.
The head proportion studies look good.I like how you places them in the first figure. For some reason, it looks playful. Made me laugh
Neck studies have a really nice mood to them, look alive and healthy.Perhaps a bit to much white detail on the right one, but The colour scheme makes up for it. I'm having female head problems myself lately. I somehow end up drawing pretty guys, not pretty girls. So i can't give any tips.
Glad you're updating this frequently.
See you at the spartans!
September 26th, 2011 #10
Had to do some more before life drawing class tonight.
Thx for your comments.
Delphin I think the neck studies turned into muscle texture studies. Wierd how that happens
September 27th, 2011 #11
Life drawing !!
I love Mondays! It my life drawing group for 3 glorious hours. Tonight was a funny one because I forgot my sketchbook. I was actually ok, when I found pieces of discarded paper around the studio AND they were big pieces, so it was fun to draw big and vertical on a easel (I usually draw seated from the lap). But dam! Not fun to scan, so hopefully I never do that again.
September 27th, 2011 #12
September 27th, 2011 #13
Thx Ashess. as I said.. I love Mondays. Honestly I don't get the benefit of the giant picture (which is anything over 6" X 12"). For a few reasons. I like keeping my muscle memory focused to my tablet size. The line quality is easier to make happen (not like I have allot of it in my sketches ). Scale and proportion is easier to control. Just all around Faster...But with the bigger ones I love getting the details..It really frustrates me when I draw big and focus in on one element for too long, when I finish the entire image is out of proportion and I feel wasted time.
You don't have a drawing group? Get one ! Even once a week makes life awesome...Well you should draw in the next spartan. Its not live action, but its as close as it gets.
Holy hot air ...long one
September 27th, 2011 #14
I second ashess, you can always snap a shot of them.
And haha "they were big pieces". I'd imagine you go paper hunting xD
I think your hatching and cross hatching is a bit messy. Perhaps try thing more of the shape when you do it,
and also try not making that zig-zag. see where that leads to.
neck has muscle and texture as well, i still think it is a good study!
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September 28th, 2011 #15
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September 28th, 2011 #16
hmm I know! we used to have a drawing day @ college. I used to love it. after school I never really got into one again. though I do pretty often just draw people. I even ask them to model sometimes. still, i'd be fun to be in a real group again. maybe next year when the baby's off the breast. I'll look to join the next spartan though. it seems nice!
anyway, in college we were required to use 1meter by 80cm paper and fill with 1 drawing.
teacher gave us several reasons:
one of was that you draw with your entire body when you work that big. your 'language" is a bit different then. usually bolder and more mature. when you focus on a small little paper, you cramp up and your line language becomes cramped too.
we also did exercises for loosening up before drawing and drawing from the shoulder.
another one was we used charcoal and that medium really requires some space to come to its right.
also, walking back 2 meters and comparing drawing and model is easier at a big scale.
there were some more.. motoric memory came into it too. but we were focussed on making on paintings the old way then so that may not apply anymore.
September 28th, 2011 #17
sketching on the today
These are my start @ this weeks Spartan Camp.
I find it difficult to just spend 1 min on a face, I think 5 mins feels right but, then sometimes I become too attached to the image and re-work it. huummpph. I'll figure it out
Ashess yup that's how I did life-drawing back in the day..I had rolls and rolls of newsprint. I would use maybe a half a pad per session. I'll have to go pick some up one day soon, and some fresh, soft, black, conte'.
Delphin Thx for the constructive criticism I really appreciate it the most! Yes, I'm trying to get cleaner, but I love the zig-zag Ok. ok its a bad habit. heheh
September 29th, 2011 #18
Jus drawing away..
Instead of posting what I already posted @ the spartan camp. I will post my favorites here and bigger so you can see more detail.
September 30th, 2011 #19
Bigger YES! Fewere NO! Share it all, and share it big!!
It's your sketch book, believe me, once the pages pile up, you'll want them all in one place.
And at the same time, it contributes to the page pile! It gets motivating as you go
Well it's not quite a bad habit, but i can't call it good either. The last one is great example! The kitty has a bit of white, but only where is the point of interest. I really like how those came out!
I think you should work more on the lower arm muscles. It seems to be causing the most trouble in perspective.
September 30th, 2011 #20
i like life
Delphin I tried to do some arm studies today
I'm thinking a little about textures and color..huum ..and arms
September 30th, 2011 #21
Poor hands! These look really nice..in their own way. I just find the concept painful xD
Feels like there's a guy out there looking for his hand/arm.
Ingers look good, but the wrist looks broken, in an unnatural way. Perhaps it's because of the shading.
September 30th, 2011 #22
uhj, why did you cut out baby 47? it was fine! I think 53 is prolly the nicest in the page. great lighting on te croc.ye, the hand/ espec the wrists feel kindof thin and wierd. but that might be bc lack of skin.
October 1st, 2011 #23
I need to do more of these. How do I know this?? Because they are really hard to do
Delphin It was a fun "real" picture of a crocodile that bit off a keepers hand in china. I must not get sidetracked and "really study" the arm
Ashesss ahh well baby 47 looked too cartoony I think I was not really looking @ the image. The croc is cool eh? I was happy with it. Thx
Im going on an adventure for a couple days. Maybe I'll draw ppl if Im brave enough. ttyl
October 3rd, 2011 #24
I'm still hungover from Saturday night. Probably just too old for drunken parties. meh
Started my day with Loomis. Ended my day with real model. All with oil pencil in my sketchbook btw
October 4th, 2011 #25
Hmm! Zketches are good but ofc, but I prefer lovely live models as those 2 @ the bottom. 1st one's forehead might be a little too high. Other wise great! Nice rendering too!
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October 4th, 2011 #26
Loomis today ~ luvit
I like the bottom one too. Thx Ashess. I need moar grey paper
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October 4th, 2011 #27
Quick setup ~
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October 5th, 2011 #28
10 am -SHT! today.. Not liking it at all. Thought I would document this crap....
Screwing around with my brushes could be the cause. Also I should study some different shading techniques. I hate making a woman's face look like it has a beard
Might stay on head refs a little but more and see If I can satisfy my ego. If that doesn't work, then back to Loomis (and bridgeman if that fails).
Then I kept at it
3 pm- Feeling better. But I gotta stop and get back to total anatomy. The face seems to draw better with minimal lines. Got it down to about 5 min per head study. Next stop!! "Shading values Town"
3:45- Noticed None of the faces has visible noses. lol Went back and fixed that. Just the hint of a nose , not too much..Bah!! watta day
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October 5th, 2011 #29
Great anatomical sketches... I really like what you are doing here! The digital style you are developing looks also very nice and is perfect for that kind of studies!
It seems like we are in the same boat,... there are lots of bones and muscles waiting for us to be studied during the next months Have fun with it (and thanks for visiting my sb).
October 5th, 2011 #30
Yeah man, it's cool to see so many figure studies.
A couple suggestions I think you could benefit from: When you're blocking in the form, feel free to be quick and sketchy; but when you're doing your final lines, you don't need to enclose the entire shape with line. A line is not really the edge of the form, it's REALLY a shadow on the form. (depends on the style, but for figure drawing, definitely remember that!) In fact, I think you could do away with 80% of your final lines and still show the form effectively.
The other thing is pretty simple, but I notice that many of your standing characters look a little off balance. Just drop that plum line from the neck and make sure it lands near the weight bearing leg (or between both if weight is evenly distributed).
Good stuff! Keep it going!