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    Please help me find reference cartoon hands and feet

    I have been looking for awesome model sheets for stylized cartoon hands and bare feet. I am sure they exist on this site but my search skills suck. Can someone help me? I have actually found some good mickey mouse hands in different poses but the bare feet are more difficult. Please help a technically challenged brother out.

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    Watch a cartoon.

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    Just watched snow white. No bare feet. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by grantrl76 View Post
    Just watched snow white. No bare feet. :-)
    You might want to try something bit more newer? (Animaniacs, Ren and Stimpy, etc) Though admittedly there's usually less reason to have bare feet in cartoons, concentrate on episodes that feature the beach or bathing.

    Or, you know... you could actually study hands and feet and learn to stylize them?

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    because learning from how ward kimball stylizes feet is bad form? reinventing the wheel is not my plan bro. if I wanted to be chastised by a moron I would have posted this question on 4chan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grantrl76 View Post
    because learning from how ward kimball stylizes feet is bad form? reinventing the wheel is not my plan bro. if I wanted to be chastised by a moron I would have posted this question on 4chan.
    You know, "cartoon" doesn't immediately say you want to draw hands and feet like Ward Kimball, secondly your only post has been "do my work for me, wah" which doesn't imply anything good, and thirdly, if you actually want to understand and learn how to draw well, you'll do yourself a favor by actually studying feet and hands. It's not like their basic construction changes that much from real life to cartoon.

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    thanks for the help angrybird. do yourself a favor and go watch some "more newer" cartoons while I look for help finding model sheets on descent cartoon hands and feet.

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    Your crap attitude aside, TinyBird is right. You need to study actual hands and feet, then stylize from there, which is exactly how Ward Kimball learned to do it.

    If you're interested in how Kimball did feet, then learn how to draw feet, then study how he drew hands and apply the same concepts to your knowledge of feet.

    Not to mention, to the best of my knowledge there aren't any extant model sheets from Kimball that have bare feet. Hell, Mickey Mouse even wore shoes to the beach! It's worth going through a lot of the old Disney shorts to see if you can find something, in any case. Oh, and take a look for Aladdin model sheets. Ain't Kimball, but it's still "Disney style" and the lead character is barefoot through pretty much the whole thing.

    Also, stop being an ass, people will want to help you more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezumi Works View Post
    Oh, and take a look for Aladdin model sheets. Ain't Kimball, but it's still "Disney style" and the lead character is barefoot through pretty much the whole thing.
    Same as Hercules and Tarzan, but they were done after the 40's which I guess is just too new...

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    Huh, talk about coincidence. Amid Amidi just announced he's been working on a biography of Ward Kimball. It's not done yet, but seems pretty close and is due late next year. Worth a look if you're into Kimball.

    And yeah, Hercules/Tarzan are good, didn't think to mention those. Also, you should be able to find some value in this video.

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    I am asking for help. And I have been courteous. I find forums are full of territorial self important blowhards who think it is their duty to lecture anybody who asks a simple question - about everything but the question asked. They do this to flaunt their perceived e-status and vast knowledge of everything that is correct in the world. Save the lectures please. I don't give a damn what you think about anything but model sheets.



    BTW I have looked at hercules and tarzan. Both are stylized in a way that is different from what I need. Tarzan for instance is very apelike and he doesn't really fit. I would love to see some feet that match the awesome hands model sheet from the iron giant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grantrl76 View Post
    I don't give a damn what you think about anything but model sheets.
    Which is part of the problem here actually. Do you have any wish to contribute anything, learn or listen anything or put work into anything or are you just another of those multiple people who think we are some Google-4-U website here, and then vanish to be never seen again?
    In a website that's full of people who put countless hours into improving themselves, work hard and do their own research?

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    dude shut up please. go lecture your mom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grantrl76 View Post
    go lecture your mom.
    Go draw your mom's feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grantrl76 View Post
    Save the lectures please. I don't give a damn what you think about anything but model sheets.
    Then I'm done helping you and I imagine I'm not the only one.

    And no, calling someone a moron because you don't like their answer is hardly being courteous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezumi Works View Post
    Then I'm done helping you and I imagine I'm not the only one.

    And no, calling someone a moron because you don't like their answer is hardly being courteous.
    thanks for the help you two. it has been a slice.

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    This has to be the same feet guy that wanted feet reference on another thread. Too busy to look it up even if I wanted to but it smacks of the same foot sniffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grantrl76 View Post
    I have been looking for awesome model sheets for stylized cartoon hands and bare feet. I am sure they exist on this site but my search skills suck.
    I'm still trying to figure out where the OP got that idea...

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    Quote Originally Posted by grantrl76 View Post
    my search skills suck.
    Not nearly as much as your social skills.


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    Elwell is right.

    grantrl76, your social skills would improve greatly if you could first start talking from the right hole.

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    For other newbies who might be reading this thread (I have no illusions of getting through to grantrl76), I'll repeat what's been said on this board and elsewhere time and time again.

    Copying someone else's stylization will only make you good at copying their style. Learning to draw the real thing (in this case feet) and then seeing how someone like Ward Kimball or Eric Goldberg or whoever did what they did will get you a lot further, and allow you to stylize in many ways rather than just one.

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    http://amzn.com/0240810961

    ...I'll just leave this here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshes Nei View Post
    http://amzn.com/0240810961

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    You should really pick up your toys, Arshes.

    However, as has been pointed elsewhere in the forum, this really isn't a beginning drawing book. It's got a lot about gesture and sketching, but it helps if you've got a little knowledge before going in. It's valuable and wonderful and I love it, but I'd be more likely to give it to someone at a more intermediate level than a beginner.

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    I think you missed the point of this. You can READ books. They do contain information that is pertinent.

    The book states what you need to observe and why drawing from like is important and why looking for model sheets is less important.

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    I have read (forgive me, READ) the book(s), y'know.

    And I maintain that it's not a beginner book as much as an intermediate one. After all, Stanchfield's lecture notes were aimed largely at people already working at Disney, so he's assuming a certain level of ability right off the bat. The fact that you can apply this to many levels is part of what makes Stanchfield so great.

    Sure, they can be read as a beginner, but I think you get a lot more value from them once you know some of the basics and can see why his stuff is outstanding.

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    Does it matter overall? Person gets it (the book) beginning or end. The book is still worth the purchase and read. The point is the OP was obsessed with stylizing feet, and the book tells the OP why they're looking for the wrong thing.

    Whether or not the OP gets all the principles in a disciplined orderly fashion is irrelevant. The point is why the OP is chasing for the wrong thing.

    It's like obsessing whether or not someone needed Betty Edwards/Loomis before Art and Fear.

    The book has the principles to understand, but if you don't get all of it you can go back and find others.

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    Probably doesn't matter that much, no. But I was aiming my comments at beginners rather than our little foot fetishist. Him, I've given up on, but I assume there are newbie lurkers about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshes Nei View Post
    Does it matter overall? Person gets it (the book) beginning or end. The book is still worth the purchase and read. The point is the OP was obsessed with stylizing feet, and the book tells the OP why they're looking for the wrong thing.

    Whether or not the OP gets all the principles in a disciplined orderly fashion is irrelevant. The point is why the OP is chasing for the wrong thing.
    Moot point. ANY book or advice would be pearls before swine for the OP.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
    Moot point. ANY book or advice would be pearls before swine for the OP.
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    Hey grantrl76, here's a stylized hand gesture sheet just for you.

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