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    Are people willing to "work for free"?

    I'm asking this because I want to get a legitemate team together to work on an animated pilot. I have to tell you it is not easy. So, instead of blatently asking people to sign up for it. I'm asking if it is even plausible that it can happen. Of course I'm not saying "do this" and that is that. There is credit given and if the pilot is picked up for a series I intend to have the people who worked on the pilot be the team for the series.

    I know this is a gamble to do and my be wishful thinking, but I think there is always a possibility to succeed.

    Please give me your thoughts. Would you work on a project for nothing more than a chance? Do you think others would?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShortBus View Post

    Please give me your thoughts. Would you work on a project for nothing more than a chance?
    No

    Do you think others would?
    No
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    yea ive thought about the overseas work too. but i dont see why its not possible to do elsewhere. i do realise the workload, ive worked well over 40 hours and i have countless more to go. i figure it will take me about a year to do alone and it wont live up to its potential because im just not as skilled as some other people. if i actually had a team it would take roughly 3 months.

    maybe my priorities arent in order. or maybe i just dont share the same priorities with anyone else.

    i guess ill just keep plugging away at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShortBus View Post
    maybe my priorities arent in order. or maybe i just dont share the same priorities with anyone else.
    Maybe people just want to eat and pay their bills. Just a thought.


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    Yea, its possible here or wherever man, just don't be an ass and pay the artists, other wise, good luck finding someone who is willing to work that much time for nothing...

    Think about it, you want talented people for your pilot animation or whatever right? well, why would they work for free when they could get some good money, using they artistic skills which they spent a lot of time and hard work developing, working for some big company?
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    im sure the people who do art for a living would want nothing to do with this. but what about the people who want to do it for a living but simply dont or havent had the chance? i consider doing something like this is a way to do this for a living. sure, it could be for nothing of monetary value, but it surely isnt nothing. its the experience for one and im sure it will fit nicely into your portfolio. besides we've all worked for free anyway. has everything uve ever worked on made you money? have you worked long and hard to accomplish what you have now? i could still be seeing this all wrong though. my method might be a little unorthadox but i think the result should still be the same.

    here is another way to look at it. do you think someone like stephen king got paid to write his 1st book before it finished? you need to have results before you get started. i know its an ass backwards way to look at it. but its true.

    honestly i dont know any other way to get started. i mean you cant just say "i can make a really good painting" and have someone buy it before the brush touches the canvas. you have to actually do the work (for free) then if your lucky the right person will come along and buy it for what its worth.

    my situation is the same but on a much larger scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShortBus View Post
    my situation is the same but on a much larger scale.
    But 3 months like you said is a much much larger scale. Sure people have to build up a folio and stuff to get noticed but your asking for too much imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShortBus View Post
    its the experience for one and im sure it will fit nicely into your portfolio.
    Ah, here you've finally dropped that stupid phrase. Repeat with me: EXPERIENCE IS NOT COMPENSATION. Repeat once more: EXPERIENCE IS NOT COMPENSATION.

    Nor is "looking nice on your portfolio".

    besides we've all worked for free anyway. has everything uve ever worked on made you money? have you worked long and hard to accomplish what you have now?
    You seem to fail to see the difference between "I worked hard to make myself succeed" and "I worked hard to make ShortBus succeed". You're asking people to make your dream come true? Good. What are you offering them in return? Your eternal gratitude?

    Look at it this way. What are YOUR qualifications on this project? Are you qualified to lead a team of animators? Can you prove that you can obtain funding for your production and see it through to release?

    What are you saying? You don't have funds? You are dredging the internet for suckers to give you man-months of freebie work on speculative premises?

    Well then, prove your worth as a producer by getting funds and then you'll be able to hire your people. And if you can't - tough love, baby.


    Otherwise, I dunno, you could enter a college with an appropriate curriculum and make this project your thesis - then you'll be able to engage other students. (Who aren't working for free either; they'll be working for their degree.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShortBus View Post
    but what about the people who want to do it for a living but simply dont or havent had the chance?
    Considering how frequently people post ads online looking for free work, for credit and future royalties when they make it big - good luck fining people who are willing.

    It's not us you need to convince the idea is plausible - all you have to do is find people who are interested and willing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShortBus View Post
    im sure the people who do art for a living would want nothing to do with this. but what about the people who want to do it for a living but simply dont or havent had the chance?
    So basically you want a group of complete amateurs? That probably don't have proper experience or skills to actually work as a group or do a fullscale animation? Yeah, I can see how professional or good it's going to look like.

    do you think someone like stephen king got paid to write his 1st book before it finished?
    I'm pretty sure that Stephen King didn't also try to grab bunch of people to write his first book for him for free, you know.
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    Have you actually contacted animation studios to find out their policies? Usually for pitching a property you don't need an entire animated pilot.
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    These kinds of threads are the reason I signed up for this message board :p

    Darn I love it when people speak their minds, even on so called "sensitive" subjects.
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