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    2 simular novel covers

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    Well.. If its by the same artist, i just don't care since clearly its just his way to cut corners (maybe lazyness, maybe swamped schedule but good money.. Idk)

    But of course, if it's by two different artists, then may the thief burn in hell for all eternity and get f-ed by 18 hitlers.

    But my question towards you, my good ms. Select, is why did you think this deserved a thread of its on, when there's well, three threads on this matter at least going on in the lounge as we speak?
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    Number one is clearly a poor copy of Number two

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    FWIW:

    The illustrator attributed to "By the Light of the Moon" is one Matt Truiano, while the illustrator for "Howl of the Werewolf" is Martin McKenna.

    Howl of the werewolf was published ~2007, while Light of the moon was published in 2011.

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    Is there some reason we cant have multiple threads covering issues of art theft, I would think that separate instances would warrant such. As well as cut down on the confusing dialogue
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    Mossi,-- its because there was already three threads I thought it was plagiarism week!?

    actually I was kind of curios if any member on Ca were the artist of the original and or friends? so they could have this brought to their attention if it wasn't something they ok`d.

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    I wrote the original artist to let him know, in case he didnt already, the guy does really great work. the other guy...not so much.. if this was my work, Id want some torches lit!

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    Why the hell not, let's all have some fun.
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    Is it possible for a publishing company to hold the rights to use particular pieces of artwork and use them for multiple pieces of literature for the sake of cost efficiency?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beeston View Post
    Is it possible for a publishing company to hold the rights to use particular pieces of artwork and use them for multiple pieces of literature for the sake of cost efficiency?
    Well, this is at least prevalent with covers that use stock photos. I do remember seeing actual blogs that collect teen book covers that are basically copies of each others.
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    Yes, the overuse of stock photography is a growing problem in publishing. Here's a Goodreads page compiling similar covers. That's a totally different issue than ripping off art like the first post, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Select View Post
    I wrote the original artist to let him know, in case he didnt already, the guy does really great work. the other guy...not so much.. if this was my work, Id want some torches lit!
    Let the publishers know too. Its not just good enough to let the artists know. The publishers have the power to not hire these people. When I was working for a magazine in the eighties doing illustrations, someone ripped off one of my teachers, Thomas Blackshear, by stealing one of his Shannara paintings. I told the publisher and they made sure this guy was out of the industry; he went back to doing fan art. Its a small world.

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    It was plagiarism week!?
    The fuck? It's a holiday now?

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    Any technology that simplifies theft, encourages theft.

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    Possibly goes on a you thought we wouldn't notice page?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpaint View Post
    Let the publishers know too. Its not just good enough to let the artists know. The publishers have the power to not hire these people. When I was working for a magazine in the eighties doing illustrations, someone ripped off one of my teachers, Thomas Blackshear, by stealing one of his Shannara paintings. I told the publisher and they made sure this guy was out of the industry; he went back to doing fan art. Its a small world.
    The publisher who received the ripped work doesn't believe plagiarism is involved. I received a letter from them about the issue.

    Basically the publisher tried to justify it by saying the artist used "white hairs" the moon is different etc...

    http://www.conceptart.org/copyright/ nice powerpoint refresher for people.
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    Just thought I'd post an update.

    Since I contacted the offending publisher, I also contacted Martin McKenna and received a reply. He also feels his work was ripped off. He will contact the publisher, but doesn't believe after seeing the email I forwarded to him from the publisher that much will come from it.

    I also let him know to have his publisher (if they're still around) contact the offending publisher for the plagiarism.

    I hope no other artists would consider doing business with this publisher if they support theft of other works. Also, no need to go over and witch hunt since I contacted the parties involved.

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    Good to hear Arshes Nei, and I'm glad you had posted an update.

    Internet Vigilantism (a.k.a. Witch Hunting) not only carries the risk of wronging an innocent party (a problem with playing "judge, jury, & executioner") but also frequently results in merely short term punishment and no long term changes.

    Hopefully compensation will be awarded to Martin McKenna, and if not at least others can be aware and avoid Damnation Books in the future (if they are indeed aware and do not care). If it's any consolation to others it would seem from reviews that the writing is mediocre (not 'bad' per se, but certainly not good), add in the typesetting on the cover and it appears the publisher gets what it pays for... meaning the so-called "artist" is hardly making a living wage.
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    Since this thread is about plagiarism, I thought I'd ask a question here. Basically, when I was walking through the city, I saw this painting being sold in an art gallery for 4000 euros, and it was a rip-off of a pretty well-known painting on deviantart ('two prostitutes' by cellar-fcp). It was the same image, only mirrored and with a crop of one of the faces added next to it, and then a crappy red and black filter over it. I contacted the art gallery, but apparently the dude who 'made it', also works there, and he told me that if someone altered someone else's work, they were allowed to sell it as their own, and it was his 'duty as an artist to spread his vision to try and make the world more like a utopia'.
    I don't really know how to respond to this, especially since he claimed that he had all this sorted out by a prestigious lawyer's office in the capital or something.

    Anyway, since people sometimes lie, I just wanted to ask if he's right and he can actually do this?
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    I had contacted Martin via his website when this thread started, but didn't get a reply, So thank you for posting as I feel a hell of a lot better knowing that for sure he knows!

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    It's not just the cover that's plagiarized. By the light of the moon is a Dean Koontz novel as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by megaten View Post
    It's not just the cover that's plagiarized. By the light of the moon is a Dean Koontz novel as well.
    Well, it's also an album, which appeared before Koontz's novel.

    But, what about in cases like this? I got this book http://www.amazon.co.uk/Myths-Legend...5313166&sr=1-2 and saw this inside it:
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