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Here's a front & back view of my CHoW character, and I forgot I did his shoes until I uploaded... I'll likely return to him tomorrow and fix those blobs.
edit: This is now the theme song for page 4.
Last edited by littlebones; February 3rd, 2012 at 09:56 PM.
Your spiders are really spidery. Bad pun is bad. Anyway, perhaps give rendering a chance, on the one that you like most, see where that takes you.
I like your dedication, keep at it.
Looking good! I can definitely see the studies you've been doing are informing the figures you do from imagination.
You do a lot of great studies, but I agree with CarbonBased--I'd like to see some more rendered, finished work. You're clearly doing great at the fundamentals--take it to the next level! I don't know if your CHoW character is still largely a WIP, but this would be a great chance to try your hand at more detailed rendering. Speaking of which, love the pose on that guy. I always seem to have trouble with arms positioned behind the back like that, and you did a good job. One thing that might make him seem a lot more sinister is to dial up the contrast, especially on the face. I'm looking forward to seeing how he turns out
CarbonBased: Thanks! That's actually a decent idea, I may return to those spiders. Not all the sources I used had very good colour, though, but I might just find another one.
Meps: I'd like to see more rendered, finished work, too! I really do have very little time for drawing during the semester, though. When I do have time to draw it never feels like a good time to start something that's gonna be a big deal, because I know I only get an hour here and there. Break is coming up though, and while I have class work I'll be doing then, I hope to also take my time on something really nice & polished.
I will probably still work on and finish Mr. Changeling here even if I didn't make the deadline. I kind of grew attached to him.
Your encouragement is super appreciated. I've really hit a mental slump.
So I haven't managed to get much done at all this weekend. I drew yesterday but it was a simple sketchbook doodle and it's not worth scanning. Today I did a few gestures to do something, and I felt good about the lines, so that was nice. I've had no spark for much of anything today. Just one of those days where it's hard to even drag your carcass out of bed.
I'll chalk it up to having been busy & stressed, and try not to feel too bad about it. So much reading. I really can't wait for the break.
Here's a bad thing, I don't even know. Today I learned that layers can be as much of a hindrance as a help if you don't pay some damn attention to where you're painting.
I keep my layers to a bare minimum if I can. The only thing I really layer in a black and white underdrawing is hair if it overlaps the shoulders. Other than that, just color overlays. No layers in traditional media! Also, it'll keep your file sizes down if you don't use too many layers.
Thanks blindshot, I've definitely learned my lesson to keep them under control.
Here's an imagination dump inspired by this thread, but which is so crappy and doesn't belong there yet. But any critiques at all on this dude would be cool.
I feel ya--it can be tough to find time to paint outside of class. What are you in school for? (I've been trying to cram in three hours of painting every weekday, regardless of my schedule, but it's proving difficult << Like you say, reading.)
Dealing with a lack of inspiration is tough, especially when you're busy with other stuff on top of it. What I'd suggest is that you use a few moments of down time (in-between reading, etc.) to browse around on the internet for inspiration. I've been building up a list of artists whose blogs I follow, and updates from the pros are always really inspiring to look at. And, of course, hanging out on CA.org is like the inspirational equivalent of an adrenaline syringe to the chest
Apart from that, I'd suggest you take a look at the magazine Imagine FX, if you have the money to spare. Even if you don't subscribe, it's a really incredible resource, both in terms of inspiration and advice. I've taken to reading that on the bus on my way to campus (which is one of the only times I have a chance to do non-school reading).
Finally, I'd suggest reading "The Perfect Bait" by Bobby Chiu--it's pure gold. And it's a quick read (so if you're insane like me, you can read it over and over again <<; )
These are just things that help me whenever I have an inspiration slump--hopefully some (or all!) of them will work for you, too
Now I'll take a moment to put on my Critique Pants and say that Mr. Changeling is looking great! You're doing a great job with the underlighting on the face. If the light source is in his hand, it might help to convey that if you added some selective rim lighting around certain edges. Also, make sure you're consistent with that lighting--you have the source casting light on the face and suit, but you could probably punch up the lighting on the red shirt a bit more.
Hey littlebones glad u liked my sketchbook and if you find it helpful that's really awesome although im sure there are errors everywhere and I'm pretty sure you a ways ahead of me. However if you end up doing any hardcore anatomy stuff I am happy to help and crit
Great gestures btw!! Definitely do some more finished and polished work .. If anything if there is a problem area you might be having it might even reveal it more so you can go back to studies with a problem to solve.
Also for complex images (like the map in my SB) I'll flatten things that aren't touching. That way I can keep all my details separated so I can re-colour them or filter them easily and still keep as few layers as possible.
A little planing goes a long way
Meps: Wooow thanks!! I actually have a personal tumblr that's about 50% inspiring art, and I have a specific tag so I can browse just them if I want. And I'll look into ImagineFX and that book! A bit strapped for cash right now, though, but it's in my reminders! I just bought Imaginative Realism and How Pictures Work (I forget the authors) so my book budget is spent.
Changeling's stupid PDF file is so frustratingly disorganized right now that I think I'll be moving on to something new, though. Lesson learned, haha. Why else am I doing all this except to make endless terrible mistakes, after all?
Oh, and I'm majoring in both Marketing & English. It's a lot of work sometimes. But the business degree can't hurt at all if I ever become good enough to go freelance or something! When I'm like... 65...
Whirly: Aw geez, don't flatter. And yeah, that's a great reason to do something more finished. It'll happen, I swear!
EDIT: Oh hey Rhubix, you posted as I was posting! That's a good idea, the CTRL + Paint guy does the same thing and I've watched those videos, so I don't know what I was thinking. Gotta be vigilant.
HAVE SOME FEET. This was really fun, honestly. Challenging, but fun. I decided I'd had enough of not understanding feet and bullshitting them every time I drew a figure.
All referenced, mostly by searching "feet" on tumblr, and let me tell you if you do that I hope you are ready for some foot porn because gosh there's a lot of it. D:
Last edited by littlebones; February 8th, 2012 at 09:22 PM.
Hi bones, I've been meaning to stop by here. You have a lot of nice stuff, I've noticed improvement in your figures already, which is awesome. You really handle your pencils well.
The Endermen are turning out great. Definitely very creepy. I especially like how you did the face on the big one at the top.
Do you play Minecraft btw?
3 and 4 have cute toes.
That is all
SpiralHorn: Thanks! I ought to go back to pencils sometime, I don't want to get too used to Photoshop. Also, I'm glad you like those Endermen. I don't even play Minecraft, honestly. I've heard good things. But mostly I just liked the description of those creatures.
Rhubix: Hee, thank you.
I feel sick today, and wasted most of the afternoon unintentionally napping. So instead I'll upload this older sketch of Marceline from Adventure Time, because I like it better than the other crap I did today, which is... not good at all, not even a little bit. Wahn wahn. Failure day.
Aww man Idk what to say that would be helpful to you, your doing such a great job on your own!!( and this is the part where your mom lets you go out into the world...)
Otherwise just practice that anatomy, practice arms too short/long to see where the mid point is, helpful for doodling activities where people available is at an all time low.
Luckily you started studying before I did (started this month T.T) so keep that up
Freaking Marceline, I love her! I like the way you portrayed her. The arm is a bit off, but everything else made me a happy camper.
Seen your post somewhere about Don't Break The Chain website and that website is now my homepage as well. Gratifying seeing those calendar dates fill up.
Keep at it.
Marceline Lovely portrait! As CarbonBased told you, the arm isn't correct (too long humerus) and the lower torso should have more care, and the hat and I'd love to see it more finished, painted, in colors, whatever I'm a greedy one I know. But this is how much I love her face and angle and everything. She has a tad too big head too though it may be intentional, not everyone should be 7 or more heads tall. But I'd make her more curvy, I mean, even for a young gal she could use more curvy sexy lines. I'd love if it would be my drawing, it has the charm that would make me work on her more, despite my lazyness and little patience
CarbonBased: Thanks! And yeah, that arm is pretty wonky, haha. And yeah that site is great, I'm at 39 or 40 days I think, so if I missed one now I'd feel super guilty.
shiNIN: Aw thanks! I did try to colour her yesterday, but it was just atrocious. Something about adding colour to my pictures just ruins them in my eyes. I always thought of Marceline as being kind of on the skinny side, so that's how I drew her here. I'd feel creepy drawing big ol' boobs on a kids' show character, which I think makes me a minority on the internet.
I'm glad you think it has charm!
So once again today, not much time. Gotta read Don Juan and write a few papers so I'm spending my Saturday night inside with a book, whee. But I felt I had to draw so I put on Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon and drew until it was done. (I felt like it was a good way to time myself.)
So here's my fruitless result. Decided to go back to pencil since my tablet was on the blink.
I'm back! Drew every day (a bit) but had no time for forums, but I have some time today.
I had trouble fitting heads on their necks, so I practiced that. Some poses from imagination. Trying to get back in the swing of things after drawing very little for a week.
Keep up the line sketches, they're looking good!
You make feet look so beautiful! Make me want to draw feet. It's so often the let-down aspect of a drawing or painting, but yours are often lovely. I also like how you are picking out your weaknesses, isolating them and grinding them away with hard work. I reckon you are on the right track.
-lurks away- :]
No, I didn't mean the boob! (I love boobs and appreciate the pretty lil ones too and dislike the huge melons, by the way) She has nice lil titties, they suit her. I meant the lines of her body, they could use a little more flow I think.
Good luck with the head/body attachment problem, I'm familiar with that myself... I don't know if pointing at the flaws in the figures do any good but there's a few things: the middle girl has too thick highs, the man has too long arms, I guess the forearms should be definitely shorter due to shortening... And all three figures has not quite correctly attached heads. I think you tend to give them just a tad long neck... But I may be wrong, I epically suck at head/body attachment, after all. And talk about myself way too much as well
The Flying Dutchman: Thanks! I will!
Ceinwen The grinding away at weaknesses is sort of a setback. I go to start on a big thing and while doing it, I realize all the things I don't know, so rather than finish it I just practice more little things. I'm reading Art and Fear right now, maybe it'll help with this.
shiNIN: Haha, yeah, I suppose. I thought she was more like 13 but I guess she's 16-ish? So you're totally right about that. I really do like that sketch so I want to do SOMETHING with it... attempt #2 perhaps sometime this week.
Half the fun of this site is getting to talk to people, so I like your commentary! In Sketchbooks I like banter as much as crit. Overly long necks are definitely a thing I've always done. I wish I could find one of my old things from when I was 12-ish, everybody looked like giraffes.
These took me longer than I'd like to admit.
Just to add on arms. Try ending upper part of the arm at the end point of the ribcage or a bit above the navel. The upper part of the arm, that is not covered by shoulder muscles,(the straight tubular part.. I hope that makes sense lol) is really quite short.
Hope this helps. : )
Btw if you like adventure time, check out Natasha Allegri on tumblr. She works on the show and has a really fun style.
Carbon: Guess that means I gotta draw a bunch of arms, huh? Bunch of arms, coming up shortly. As for Natasha Allegri, I already managed to stumble across her tumblr! I love her non-Adventure Time stuff too.
Here's some dumb crap. I feel stagnant and lazy as shiiiiiit and I have no good excuse at all. At least I'm honest?
More of the same. Stagnating and not sure what to do about it. Barely keeping the ball in the air.
Actually went backwards in skill while drawing these. What the fuck?
The winged lady is an old character I "designed" when I was eight. I found my old diary and I had drawings of her in there and I felt like recreating her... eight year old me would be soooo pumped that future me could draw her so well, even if current-me thinks it sucks.
To be honest, I think you're progressing just fine Your gesture drawings are looking a lot more confident in terms of linework (I really like gesture #4 from your previous post).
I love the idea of going back and doing some pieces/sketches based on stuff you did when you were younger. I really ought to try that. I realize that last piece is just a sketch, but her face does seem a little small with regard to the rest of her body. Apart from that the anatomy looks good.
Meps: Thanks! I actually noticed lines flowing easier as I was drawing those legs, it felt really good. Scratchy lines DO go away eventually! I think that sort of kickstarted me out of my slump. And yeah her face is totally waaay too small.
I've been thinking about doing a whole thing with these comics I used to draw as a kid, except basically all of the characters look like Sailor Scouts, so I dunno.
Sean: Thank you!
Here's a pretty lil' lady I threw up in Photoshop. I am actually pleased with this. Crit is appreciated because I want to return to it, though I hate saying that because it means I never will. I always want to move on to greener pastures.
It definitely needs tidying up; didn't expect it to actually turn into a Thing. Actual size is BIG.
You have the problem I have most frequently--issues with form. Usually they're mostly right, except for being squished either vertically or horizontally! Just keep up the good work and practice though.
Sketchbook --I'd love some feedback!