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    Copy them into your notebooks page by page. The books are filled with ways of conceiving the dynamic anatomical forms of human phizzeeOGnomee.

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    What kev said. I can't make heads and tails out anything before I have tried hard to do it myself. I think anatomy and construction is as nececcary for your observations as intervals and scales are in developing your musical pitch. But yeah, that's already been said in many different ways, sooo...



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    Quote Originally Posted by blogmatix View Post
    It could be, but I am with Xeon here: I can't make head or tails of Bridgman's books. It is not at all clear to me what one is supposed to do with them! ;-)
    As it happens, I watched this class last week, and a great deal of it is about just that topic, reconciling Bridgeman with other anatomy books (the class used Rubins, but it could be any anatomy book). It's a good approach, and seeing as it's still on sale a pretty decent value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KT View Post
    Sure thing Briggsy. I think the main part of the discussion is on page 15, and maybe a few pages before that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kev ferrara View Post
    Copy them into your notebooks page by page. The books are filled with ways of conceiving the dynamic anatomical forms of human phizzeeOGnomee.
    The problem is that his drawings are so loose and sketchy that they are extremely difficult to copy. Do I try to copy his drawings mark for mark, or do I try to copy the forms in my own way, or what? I find it very difficult to make sense of his work.

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    I thought so too, untill i sat down and studied (as in carefully/anally copied) some plates from Richer's book. I was trying to make sense of the hands at the moment (still am) and decided to start with the bones, and then the muscles of the palm, fingers and the forearm. Going back to Bridgman after that, was a small revelation, because all of a sudden, his loose, seemingly arbitrary marks made sense; they were either describing bone, muscle or tendons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndreasM View Post
    I thought so too, untill i sat down and studied (as in carefully/anally copied) some plates from Richer's book. I was trying to make sense of the hands at the moment (still am) and decided to start with the bones, and then the muscles of the palm, fingers and the forearm. Going back to Bridgman after that, was a small revelation, because all of a sudden, his loose, seemingly arbitrary marks made sense; they were either describing bone, muscle or tendons.
    In other words, it is probably a good idea to first learn a reasonable amount of anatomy before working from Bridgman. It is not that I dislike his drawings, quite the contrary, I just found them of limited use as learning tools. But it looks like they are much more useful once one already has a bit of a foundation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogmatix View Post
    The problem is that his drawings are so loose and sketchy that they are extremely difficult to copy. Do I try to copy his drawings mark for mark, or do I try to copy the forms in my own way, or what? I find it very difficult to make sense of his work.
    Go with this book first. http://amzn.com/0486227103

    The complete guide is edited funny and is a bit more difficult to pick up his concepts.

    I went with the green book first and it made a lot of sense.

    When I originally bought a Bridgman book it was Constructive Anatomy because of its popularity. However, I wasn't picking up what he was referring to. Life drawing talks about his concepts more and once I started going through that book, the other books made a lot more sense.


    This blog is also helpful (credit goes to Elwell for posting this before) http://deadoftheday.blogspot.com/200...n-anatomy.html

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    Less questions. More doing.

    Learn by doing. Learn how to learn without asking a million questions. Learn to trust advice. Learn to go with your gut, to go on your own volition. Go. Do.

    At least Icarus tried!


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    Quote Originally Posted by kev ferrara View Post
    Less questions. More doing.

    Learn by doing. Learn how to learn without asking a million questions. Learn to trust advice. Learn to go with your gut, to go on your own volition. Go. Do.
    In other words:

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    This is a really good thread.

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