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    Isreal to attack Iran in the Fall

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    I wonder if the US will support Israel. But chances are public backlash would hold us back.

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    Um, you've linked to an editorial written by a Media Matters operative on Aljazzera's English website.



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    Well I guess that its set in stone then! Just as Harold Camping predicted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamber Parrk View Post
    Um, you've linked to an editorial written by a Media Matters operative on Aljazzera's English website.

    Is that bad ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer_ View Post
    Is that bad ?

    Heh! Well, you should probably really really stay away from "Prison Planet" until your critical filters are much stronger. . .

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    Aljazeera is like a mirror image of something like Fox news or the Daily Mail, so yeah.

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    Darn, guess I brought questionable news...

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    The only currently trustworthy news source is here.

    http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/

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    Wanderer, man, you need to use a more trustworthy news site.

    Like this: http://www.theonion.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlyhazard View Post
    Wanderer, man, you need to use a more trustworthy news site.

    Like this: http://www.theonion.com/
    I clearly should . Did you know that China said that they would forgive America's debt if Americans dress up in costumes and dance around so they would humiliate themselves

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    It is highly unlikely that this will happen. It makes no sense in view of Israel's political goals.

    Whoever wrote this was pretty dumb. And Eretz Israel wouldnt be dumb to engage in a war that would lead to conflict with every nation that surrounds it.

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    Aside from the questionable source, how exactly would Israel attack Iran?

    On land they've got Turkey, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Jordan all in the way. By sea they'd have to go through Egypt's waters plus circle around Saudi Arabia, and Yemen. About all Israel could do is some long range strikes, which would be sufficient to piss off all of it's neighbors and start another seven days war.

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    Israel is highly unlikely to attack unless provoked and even when provoked they only eliminate the eminent threat and then go back to their own business. Although, I wouldn't doubt that Iran, Egypt, and Syria attack Israel first since they us propaganda to spread hate towards da Jooooooooooos. What has Israel done to counter this? By creating a relative peaceful society made up of all of the Abrahamic religions. Not much can be said about any other Middle Eastern countries and their tolerance towards other faiths. Anyone up to date about the mass murders of the Coptic Christians, Pakistan and Iran Christians, or aware of the fact that there are zero Churches or Synagogs in Saudi Arabia? Yet Israel is the only democratic nation in the Middle East and the only Middle Eastern nation that treats all of its people with civility and liberty.

    Israel is the last country to declare war because they are trying to create peace, beginning within the boarders of their own nation. However, if brought to war, they're bound to bring one hell of a fight. If any Middle Eastern nations declares war on Israel they must not be aware of their history; remember the Six-Day War?... Yeah, 'nuff said.

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    could we please close this thread -.- the last post shows the direction this will head to - plain ideology-bashing with much emotionalism, little knowledge and no impartiality at all.

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    A highly unlikely scenario with a war we shouldn't have our noses in that would make absolutely no sense if we(USA) got involved and would do nothing more than waste money? Seems extremely likely that we'll get involved.

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    I wouldn't panic. There's always a plan to invade iran, but nobody ever does because there's nothing solid to justify it and we obviously can't hold a middle eastern country. This isn't the first time this idea has been seriously spit balled. Even GWB had to be the voice of reason at one point.

    BTW Aljazeera is not the Fox news of the middle east. They're like the AP of the middle east. If you've ever watched it, then you know they don't take sides. They only cover the who, what, when and where. I honestly trust them more than any American press, because there is no political motivation. The middle east has some fucked up news sources, but aljazeera is not one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    I honestly trust them more than any American press, because there is no political motivation.
    You're a cool dude but there is always political motivation. Especially in politics. Very especially in media coverage of politics. They may not have our (US) politics, but they do have politics.

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    Changing BBC to AP didn't make the assertion any less bizarre!

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    kamber-I was having a hard time deciding who to compare it to.

    s.ketch-All I've seen from aljazeera is "there was a bombing, heres the number of casualties and this is who is claiming responsibility" I have a hard time finding a bias in that kind of straight forward reporting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    kamber-I was having a hard time deciding who to compare it to.

    s.ketch-All I've seen from aljazeera is "there was a bombing, heres the number of casualties and this is who is claiming responsibility" I have a hard time finding a bias in that kind of straight forward reporting.
    I wonder how many people who accuse Al Jazeera of propaganda have actually watched it. In my (admittedly limited) experience, they are just about the only news channel worth watching, if for no other reason than that they continuously report actual news. With all the other channels, whenever I get there, there's soccer on.

    Anyway, lucky for me my TV gave up the ghost. I find I don't miss it and don't plan on getting a replacement, unless Israel invades Iran - I don't think I could resist the fireworks. ;-)

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    I suppose I could scour the internet and put together a pretty good argument for the bias of the BBC, AFP and Aljazeera as against Israel. (I think googling "pallywood" would be a good start).

    But, sticking with "the facts in evidence" as to this thread, I don't see how Aljazeera's giving a soapbox to a George Soros surrogate ginning up fear against Israel really shows an objective, neutral and non-political stance that enhances its credibility!

    But, nowadays, Raoul Duke, I'm trying to steer myself away from protracted "somebody's wrong on the internet" type arguments-- interesting as they can be-- they're just not worth the time.

    But, to the OP, read widely, read critically.



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    Kinda surprised you're talking about this instead of Norway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orunitier View Post
    Kinda surprised you're talking about this instead of Norway...
    From what I can gather thus far, the Norway thing was pulled off by a lone nut, which somehow always makes less news than had it been part of an Al Qaeda plot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orunitier View Post
    Kinda surprised you're talking about this instead of Norway...
    So far the main question there seems to be political fanatic or mental illness?

    The authorities are indicating he's more of a Timothy McVeigh type of killer.

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    Quality of Al-Jazerra aside, the article is dubious simply because it's an opinion piece. It says so, right up top, like this:

    OPINION

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    Kinda surprised you're talking about this instead of Norway...
    I've thought about making a topic for that... but it's so awful I'd just rather not.

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    Wouldn't be the first time Israel attacked a country they thought was gonna be a threat to them. They destroyed a bunch of stuff in Iraq back it was building stuff. Can't say I'm a huge fan of Israel's foreign policy. They've probably raised the amount of hatred Arab nations harbor toward the U.S because of their policies and unwillingness to agree to a two state solution.
    I'm surprised to see all this mistrust of the BBC, Al Jazeera, and AP here. I would have thought people on this site hadn't bought into the whole "The liberal media led by George Soros is trying to destroy America and Israel blargablarga!" thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ccs View Post
    Wouldn't be the first time Israel attacked a country they thought was gonna be a threat to them. They destroyed a bunch of stuff in Iraq back it was building stuff.
    Yes, it was just a "bunch of stuff" they bombed, nothing important or worrisome.

    And remember kids... where there's smoke, there's fire! Ergo: Israel kills innocents for fun all the time! Its just how they roll, bro! Dems evil jooos!



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    Can't say I'm a huge fan of Israel's foreign policy. They've probably raised the amount of hatred Arab nations harbor toward the U.S because of their policies and unwillingness to agree to a two state solution.
    Yes, its all Israel's fault. How dare they try to defend themselves from neverending attacks. Don't they know they should be destroyed in order to please all those sweet people who hate them? Ergo: Destroy Israel and we get rid of the problem! Simple!

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    I'm surprised to see all this mistrust of the BBC, Al Jazeera, and AP here. I would have thought people on this site hadn't bought into the whole "The liberal media led by George Soros is trying to destroy America and Israel blargablarga!" thing.
    I see. You prefer "its all Israel's fault, there is no such thing as xenophobia, scapegoating, anti-semitism, america-hatred for its own sake, jealousy, the PR war against Israel, blargablarga!"

    Well, who could argue with your superior education in these matters...

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