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July 15th, 2011 #1
Steampunk Coppelia :UPDATED:
I made this for the last chow. I didnt get much feedback and want to know where I stand, what to focus on, mistakes I make, etc. I just want to be burnt, shoot me, I need and want to improve.
Thank in advance
Last edited by PS Zant; July 16th, 2011 at 08:51 AM.
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The first thing that sticks out to me is that the left side of the image is just too dark. And especially as a thumbnail, it would disappear. Even now, it's impossible for me to see what's going on with her right hand and leg. The pose seems kind of arbitrary, almost like a samba dance, but I don't think that's what you were going for. I'm not sure that steam coming from one's armpits is exactly the *coolest* thing ever, but hey, that might just be me I do like the hat design.
Anyway, work on your color theory, too much purpley magenta, which is a bit depressing, and detracts from the action in the pose.
Not sure if I made the best sense here, but I'm open to clarifying!
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July 15th, 2011 #3
And kiwi barged right in and said what i was going to say while I did a quick paintover. Well refer to him for commentary on this
Basically think about how things are able to READ. It's too harsh overall, with the background following the lighting of her body; it's too light behind her light parts ,too dark behind her dark parts. A more even tone throughout ensures that it's dark enough to see her arms but light enough to see her shadows. Too much black on her as well, try to get a more even sense of colour with the dress. Just because things dip into shadow doesn't mean they become black. What's light in light is still relatively light in shadow. her white leg would be much lighter in shade than her dress.
July 15th, 2011 #4
Wow that was fast thank you guys so much for the comments and paintover so far. I will dive back in and try to change the values and colors.
To be honest never worked much with color but I quess that was clear
Do you guys have any tips what are good things to do for color study?
I never know where to go with the colors in shadows other then black or very dark blue. I will study some reference and try to adjust it.
about the pose I was going for a flamenco stance but I do think it misses some flow. think I will first try to focus on the values and color and try to adjust them.
I will try to post a update tomorrow with the use of your comments. First going to do some studies on the values and colors.
again thank you so much guys
Last edited by PS Zant; July 15th, 2011 at 10:58 AM.
July 15th, 2011 #5
Small update tried to change the things you guys commented about. now I will dive back in and try to push it further and try to understand the why in things why that colors, why the value changes, etc.
July 15th, 2011 #6
Sweet paintover, Jason.
Hey Zant...kudos on following up for feedback. I think it is worth pointing out that, in addition to addressing the light and color issues, Jason also made some small but effective changes to the structure of the face. Your original piece had, in my opinion, a very masculine visage. The original head (and your followup repaint) also looks pretty big for the body.
Also, you have the steam coming out awfully close to the armpits, which borders on comical.
The legs seem a bit short, especially the right thigh (which can't be explained by foreshortening).
Lastly, I'm not sure it is a good idea to crop the image so the feet are partially cut off.
I like the pose, and your piece has some nice details. I look forward to seeing your progress!
July 16th, 2011 #7
I will try to change the head and try some different locations for the steam. And let's see if the cropping works. It's fun to dive back in and work on it to make the picture work better. thank you guys learning so much from adjusting my faults you guys pointed out.
Do you mean her right leg or the right one for the viewer?
July 16th, 2011 #8
Resized and changed the head, cropped it down, removed the steam for now.