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    Awesome studies, lightship. Very informative.

    I'm wondering what kind of render settings you used in 3ds Max (It looks like that program). I'd like to create some test renders using reflected light of my own, particuarly with the colour ones posted by thegiffman if he'd be so kind as to share as well.
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    Hi there Fullmetal, nice of you to comment matey.

    The program I'm using for these isnt anything as expensive and flashy as 3d studio max, I cant afford that I have another expensive hobby to pay for!! (Kids)

    I am using Bryce 5 at the moment and its joyously simple to use and setup, but the interface is a little quircky and weird for some tastes. If you send a private message to Giffman I am sure he will tell you everything you need to know.

    As for the Bryce stuff in simple terms I just played around with the surface on the last lot to get both reflections and shadows, then played with the light sources and light colour and just kept adjusting until I got to a point where it was near to what I was working for. I am sorry this isnt really as helpful as you were hoping for but if you look in the forum list there is a section on 3D so have a poke around in there and I am sure you will find loads of help.

    Thanks again for the comment and all the best with your art mate, and if you get some stuff you like then post it in here and we can all have a go at drawing them.
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    Thanks for replying. If I have anything to contribute then I'll be sure to do so.

    And a word on 3ds Max, you can easily download the software for free on the autodesk education community. Full version of the software is available to students (or anybody else for that matter) and the UI is easy to learn and use. Even if you aren't a student you can easily put down a former college or university when setting up an account so you can download it free either way, but nobody does that *honest*.

    But yeah, 3ds and Maya are commonly used in the industry for modeling and animating, at least here in Ireland, and they're worth having since you can get them without spending a penny nowadays. I guess Autodesk are handing it out like this because the only ones that would get the most out of a paid license are studios.

    And a link: http://students.autodesk.com/
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    Glass Balls

    This might not be a hell of a lot to contribute, but on 3ds Max I've been playing around with some render settings for glass orbs.

    They're set up with standard three point lighting but the results seem to work. So if anyone wants to paint in photoshop with these or crit them in terms of lighting and whether or not they're 'convincing' feel free to do so.
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    Hi matey

    Its worth a go!! I reckon that could be quite interesting to attempt, go on you first though!!

    all the best and thanks for trying mate
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    Nice thread!

    I have questions for those who are very familiar with this topic. Is the reflected light always present? Are there circumstances in real life where this reflected light is not visible like the 3D examples in the original post?
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    This might help ..... Go on and try some.

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    Wasp

    Quote Originally Posted by sktch View Post
    Nice thread!

    I have questions for those who are very familiar with this topic. Is the reflected light always present? Are there circumstances in real life where this reflected light is not visible like the 3D examples in the original post?

    I'm no science expert, but light does tend to bounce on surfaces in real life all the time. One assumption that can be made is that the stronger the light source, then the more evident the light's reflection on surfaces is going to be which will consequently effect how strong shadows appear.

    Though that may also depend on how many light sources (diffused lights especially) there are since chiaroscuro style painting and lighting tend to use very strong light and very deep blacks with little reflections and rebounds evident (just look at Caravaggio’s paintings and Clint Eastwood’s films such as Letters From Iwo Jima). Colour may also be a factor on how much light is reflected since dark surfaces tend to absorb light and heat while brighter ones do the opposite.

    I guess the short version to my answer would be; it depends on how many surfaces the light is going to bounce off of. Then again, it could be a lot more complicated then I made it sound.
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    This thread is awesome!Thank you so much for starting it - I am just copying on color paper with black and white grey scale images of the simple shapes before I start into color - and there are few questions I wonder if somebody could answer to - it would be very helpful!
    So...when we have a sphere everything is fine,but then - when we go to the pill shape ( I have no idea what would be the real name of this shape) or the doughnut I have troubles with the top light - it looks to me like there is a lighter border just next to the background - is this an illusion?Also I just want to confirm - is the occlusion shadow just a hint?If we have to gradually distinguish the values - the terminator would be darkest,then the occlusion,then the halftone?Would the halftone spread in same value on both sides of the terminator?

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    exercise

    So...just to show that I am actually really working things from this thread
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    Yes mate the torus is a pig to do sometimes but just observe it and carefully put down on paper what you see, that's one of my problems i tend to put down what I want to see or what I think I see and that's when it goes wrong...................

    i am glad you like the thread and are getting something good from it, that's why I started it and also why they stickied it, which I still get a warm rosey glow from ...LOL.

    all the best and keep posting your questions, there is always someone around who will take a stab at answering them.
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    my god this thread is grand
    i've just been spamming your posts here with thanks as much as i could xD

    worked on these all morning
    they're my pride and joy, especially that multi-faceted thingie (which i figured out how to draw technically with less effort) and the toruses/torii (sp?)

    they're newbie as fuck, but
    i be damned if i don't love them just because i put so much work in them xD

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    Useful one, i'll use some of that !

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    Great thread! Here are some of my workout-objects as a small contribution - might be of use for some of you.
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    Hey thanks man and to everyone who adds to the thread, its all good and it all helps to do these from time toi time.

    have a go all of you and get posting.
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