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    Is anyone else disappointed in Duke Nukem Forever?

    I love the shooters but this game is a mess in almost every aspect. What happened? Fourteen years for that? Now their PR department is threatening sites that give it bad reviews LOL. What??? Or am I just digging a hole here and should be keeping my mouth shut? I mean, I think I have a right to complain if I've been waiting this long for such a sequel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoboBobo View Post
    Fourteen years for that?
    Well, that's what a game gets for being redone 320839289 times through different companies. It's actually a surprise this game actually came out considering how much it has gone through.

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    I just can't believe that was OK'd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoboBobo View Post
    I just can't believe that was OK'd.
    I think after 14 years of having somewhat of a game completed but cursed by management, Gearbox just wanted it to be over with and make the best of what they had. It was only because of its reputation that created such a big hype for it, more than what a game (that has gone through hell) can deliver.

    Let's be honest; it isn't the worst to come out in the history of video games. There are a lot more games out there which are clearly worse. I don't think this will be the last we hear of Nukem either and, hopefully, next time it won't have ideas stemming past over a decade old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Chow View Post
    I think after 14 years of having somewhat of a game completed but cursed by management, Gearbox just wanted it to be over with and make the best of what they had. It was only because of its reputation that created such a big hype for it, more than what a game (that has gone through hell) can deliver.

    Let's be honest; it isn't the worst to come out in the history of video games. There are a lot more games out there which are clearly worse. I don't think this will be the last we hear of Nukem either and, hopefully, next time it won't have ideas stemming past over a decade old.
    Make the best of what they had? It would take common sense not to release a game in 2011 that looks like a game intended for '98. I don't buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoboBobo View Post
    common sense
    Tell that to people who made Superman 64 or the incredibly giant list of games that people will never be remembered because they were released without "common sense". I think it was even smarter for Gearbox to do it because there was a clear market of people who really likes Duke.

    Quality has nothing to do with whether something gets released or not; not everything that gets released has to be 90% on IGN. It never has. DNF is really not a special case and it won't be the last game to disappoint fans (me included). I even think it has a better excuse than most high production games that end up like this.

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    No, I don't think so. The reviews I read all agreed with you, RoboBobo. I was offered a copy for my birthday and declined on that account.

    I got a new machine with a nice graphics card at Christmas; before that, I was limping along with some very old tech. I'm so impressed with the current state of games graphics. I'm almost through my second pass of Dead Space 2, and this time I quickly kill of the monsters and then slowly walk around staring at stuff.
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    When I heard that it was going to be released after all I was really happy. Personally I think it's foolish to have expected it to be a "good game" by modern standards. After having a production history like that, you can't really expect it to be brilliant. I see it more as a salute to all the people who poured so many hours of their time into the games creation.

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    Was never really that excited about it. Just didn't think it would be that good. I mean the humor is a satire on the overly macho 80's-90's action hero, the entire character himself is kind of anachronistic. It's kind of like making a Titanic or Matrix joke, people just look at you and go "really? dude come on". The story, character, graphics and humor are all outdated

    Thing is, this could all be easily forgiven if the gameplay were actually good. People will argue that the 12 year development time mean it would never live up to people's expectations, but even if that were true, it would still be possible for it to be a good game. I played the demo a few days before it came out and I wasn't very impressed. The controls were clunky, you died way too easily, the pacing felt off, you were restricted to only carrying 2 weapons (look I realize being able to carry an entire arsenal single handedly isn't exactly realistic, but come on, being a one man army would actually work considering Duke's over the top personality) it was just a bland game in general, I beat the demo, then had absolutely no desire to play it again. The fact that it was the sequel to a beloved 90s shooter that took 12 years to create was just the final nail in the coffin
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    I totally agree with what you guys are saying. The production went through a crap storm. My question is why release it to the public? They would've been better off starting fron scratch with something fresh. Don't get me wrong, I didn't expect something marvelous, but when they talked mass trash about Halo and Gears being overrated, then release what they did...yeah. Its just love for fps's is all Conversation over. Just felt like venting.
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    How could you be disappointed? There was never a chance this game would be anything more than horrible. I can't even look at a promo image for it without vomiting a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liffey View Post
    How could you be disappointed? There was never a chance this game would be anything more than horrible. I can't even look at a promo image for it without vomiting a little.
    Well, Duke Nukem 3d was fantastic so i think a lot of people who bought the new Duke Nukem were hoping for something that pays homage to Duke3d. It's hard to appreciate the Duke humor though without previously having experience playing Duke 3d when it launched. "Time to kick ass and chew bubblegum...and i'm all out of gum"

    Even though i loved Duke3d, I didn't buy this one. The reviews came in a few days before it launched and it was getting nothing but 5/10 and 6/10 which by game review standards is pretty bad, so i cancelled my preorder.

    It's surprising gearbox couldn't rescue it tho. They made Borderlands which is an absolutely great game. I guess they couldn't rescue it from what was already there though. From what i hear they just took what was already done to it and just sort of tied up the loose ends, but it's supposedly a game still full of assets and work thats over 5 years old.

    But yeah, i'm glad i dodged this title. And i'm glad this thread is allowed to be in the lounge. The entertainment subforum is dead. It's nice to be able to have video game talk.
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    Time to kick ass and chew bubblegum...and i'm all out of gum
    Even that isn't original

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    The line "I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum" was ad-libbed by Roddy Piper. According to director John Carpenter, Piper had taken the line from a list of ideas he had for his pro wrestling interviews.

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    Interestingly enough, I got a little more open to the idea of Duke Nukem Forever being good after I played Bulletstorm. It showed me that lackluster story, overly macho protagonists, over the top violence and ridiculous (but funny) amounts of swearing won't bog down a game that has some solid mechanics in its favor, in some cases it actually adds to its charm. Duke Nukem Forever was a product of poor execution
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    While we're on the topic of duke, which is made by gearbox; Does anyone play borderlands?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venger View Post
    Time to kick ass and chew bubblegum...and i'm all out of gum
    Even that isn't original
    That always pissed me off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Edge Ryan View Post
    ridiculous (but funny) amounts of swearing
    I never understood why people find this funny. I can do it too. Motherfucking shit fuck bitch fuck. It's really not that funny at all.

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    While we're on the topic of duke, which is made by gearbox; Does anyone play borderlands?
    I used to play borderlands. Why you ask?
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    It seems as if this was a wasted endeavor, and I'm a fan of Duke Nukem 3D. (Both the PC and Nintendo 64 versions, I might add.) Might I suggest that we check out Zero Hour and Manhattan Project.
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    It was made so people would quit saying "Out before Dukue Nuke'Em Forever"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liffey View Post
    I never understood why people find this funny. I can do it too. Motherfucking shit fuck bitch fuck. It's really not that funny at all.
    Well they used extremely colorful language. Maybe it's just me but I laughed when they said "well now, hold your dick for one second ya fungal rimjob"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liffey View Post
    How could you be disappointed? There was never a chance this game would be anything more than horrible. I can't even look at a promo image for it without vomiting a little.
    I get to sit next to this horrific thing at the bus stop, every day X_X.

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    ^ Those girls' faces look so blank.

    I've never heard of this game nor was I expecting it... But fourteen fucking years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by velderia View Post
    ^ Those girls' faces look so blank.

    I've never heard of this game nor was I expecting it... But fourteen fucking years?
    Basically George Broussard, the head honcho of 3dRealms, would get a hard on everytime unreal or quake released a new engine. He'd force the staff to scrap all their work and pick up the pieces and stuff them into the new design. Problem is, once he'd bought the rights to the latest engine, another one came out and round and round he went.

    Eventually some of the luckier staff were able to move on. The rest hung about until the company collapsed under the weight of egos, lawsuits and money trouble. The game was picked up by another developer who made a quick couple of bucks.

    The hilarity of its development time made the game legendary enough to actually warrant release after almost two decades.

    Shocker: It sucked.
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    I got to try my hand at it. For my boyfriend and I, it was not worth waiting for most of our lives so far for it.
    And having a strip club dedicated to it wasn't worth it either.
    My friend summed it up best: "I have been waiting for this since I was about 5 years old. And there is a certain limit to the amount of tits, violence, and dirty humor you can fit into a game. This went shooting past that boundary in the first few minutes"

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    Even if DNF had been done right I really don't think it would have fared any better. Duke is a relic of the past. As much as I liked him I don't see how he or his story could transcend to anything grander today.

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