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    Lightbulb Character design: Symonne "Starshine" Cymbry

    Hi, I'm new

    I've decided to start making some proper character portraits of some of my pen-and-paper roleplaying characters. This is the first one.

    She's a character in Rogue Trader, which is set in the Warhammer 40K universe. A dark, dystopian future of interstellar war and fanaticism.

    She's worked for the administratum (it's kind of like the IRS and STASI combined) for a while as a... well, no one's asked, really. But she's good at talking to people and being sneaky and inconspicous. I like developing characters as I play, and she's quite new, so that's all I have right now. I still haven't figured out why she's called Starshine.

    As for the design itself, I started off from my own baseless conception of what a paper-pusher in the Norwegian public sector would look like in the 70's, added some Welma from Scooby Doo, aand a gun and something leathery since it's WH40K.

    I would love to hear some constructive comments both on the ideas behind the design and on the craftsmanship.

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    Well... she's very different from any Warhammer thing I've ever seen. Whether that's exactly good or not I can't say though.
    My first gripe would be that the uneven and random texture of her suit looks like hair, making her look kinda like mix of Chewbacca and Velma. If you wanted a wool/pullover shirt look, do the lines more evenly and have the shadows go more with the suits shapes, like even though she's lifting her legs, there's no wrinkles.

    Also her ear is really far on the back and she's missing a finger.
    And since you're going with such cartoony look, I personally would do straight lineart and cellshade the image, instead of combining lineart and smudgey, painted shading.

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    You're right, I've ignored the precedent for WH40K art, and gone in a sort of cartoonish direction.

    I was going for a sort of sci-fi corduroy suit, and thought I'd get away by being a bit loose and lazy, maybe if I loosened up the lineart as well?

    I could print it out, lay it on a lightboard (or the like) and paint over the lines with a brush. I think that might work better with the smudgy shading too.

    As for the finger and the ear, I'll get right on that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristerMLB View Post
    I was going for a sort of sci-fi corduroy suit, and thought I'd get away by being a bit loose and lazy, maybe if I loosened up the lineart as well?
    Unfortunately sci-fi is probably one of the least forgiving for going "loose and lazy". And sure, you could loosen the lineart, but it wouldn't change the fact that the suit looks hairy.
    The point of corduroy is that the lines are parallel, but in this they're not, and not in a way that would make sense considering the shape of the suit.

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    Thanks, you're right, it might even make it look more hairy. I'll have to fix the corduroy-lines, and then I'll do the brush thing anyway, to see if it helps make the lineart fit better with the shading.

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    Hey i like the concept, I dont know much about warhammer so I may be useless as far as your concept goes. I think her face is really the strength of the piece, I get a sense of her personality right away. I think technique wise the face and the drapery around the shoulders are holding up best. The drapery reminds me of some princess leia garb which seemed cool to me.

    A few things off the bat that bother me are: The hand holding the clipboard (as an above poster mentioned) is a 4 digit hand whereas the gun wielding hand is a regular 5 digit. Just need to choose which you prefer. 4 digit hands obviously are a more cartoony look.

    I feel a technology disconnect between the gun and the glasses, I think the gun needs to have more of a clunky hand-made feel like the glasses or the glasses need to look a bit more modern.

    Also the perspective of her front foot seems way off to me, I dont think you should be seeing so much of the sole of the shoe from the way she is walking.


    Great work overall!

    If you would like to poke back at me you can crit a drawing i just put up!

    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...35#post3165335

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    Her left hand only has four fingers.


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    You can't be loose and lazy with corduroy. The lines on corduroy are parallel, so once you have non-parallel lines it starts looking like some other fabric.

    Corduroy is also quite stiff, while your suit is baggy and floppy, making it look much more like a knitted fabric. Stiff fabrics have fewer folds, and the folds they have are quite pronounced and angular. Corduroy would have pronounced pleats where it's gathered at the wrists and wouldn't be so round around her thighs (the tops of thighs are rounded but not that much). Think jean jacket and baggy, stiff jeans.

    I like the face on this character though. She has a definite personality!

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    Update where I did what I said I would. The suit looks less like it's made of hair, I've also tried to make it look stiffer. I also printed, brushed, and scanned the linework and made some other changes as well.

    I think it looks better in some ways, but I also think I need to sleep on it

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    One last update, I tried adding on some bling and tweaked a bit. I consider myself done with this one, and will me moving on to another character

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