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This is a request from my fiance, she wants in on her leg as a birthday present. She asked for a post-apocalyptic pin-up and has given me her input along the sketching process. But now I'd like some critiques, paintovers, advice, anything, I'd really appreciate the help as I have never done anything like this before, thanks! (sorry about the text, she was worried someone would steal it before she could get it inked)
She doesn't have a pin-up shape, and would never do this pose, lol. But yeah, I used reference for the rest of it, it's just rough right now, but I want to make sure the anatomy and everything looks right before I continue.
Howdy, there are some serious issues with the anatomy, the shoulder's structure is non-existant, the hands and wrists also show no actual form (they are more symbolic of hands than literal at this point). The breasts are shown at a different angle than the rest of the torso, and seem to be suffering from 'oranges taped to a board' syndrome a bit.
If this is a tattoo we're talking about, you want to really nail it here. This isn't a drawing for your wall or to put on a site somewhere, it's going to be embedded into her skin...Get and use reference and spend a lot more time on it. If your skill level isn't sufficient to pull it off I'd say maybe hold off on the actual tattoo until it is...
PS, I really don't think you need the giant embossed copyright watermark...
by "for the rest of it" do you mean just for the gun and the mask? And even if she (or any other person who might pose for you) doesn't have a pinup shape they can still be useful as a reference. Remember that references aren't necessarily there so that you can copy them exactly. They give you a guide as to what is accurate. At this point it's basic underlying anatomy, particularly the shoulder, that you're having issue with so any reference that fits this pose will do. Then it's just a matter of making the fleshy bits the shape you want.
Hope this helps
Edit: and if I misunderstood and you do have a reference for the whole body it would be helpful to post it.
Last edited by wooden mango; June 4th, 2011 at 12:03 PM.
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Truepinkas - I'm going to find a reference pic somewhere and work on the anatomy issues. That's why I posted it here, because it will be in her skin and I don't want her to regret it, so getting any input is really important. And, I hate copyright symbols, but she insisted. Thanks for the tips!
wooden mango - Yes, the only reference were for the gun and mask. I'll be finding a picture to reference from today, hopefully, thanks!
That pelvis really bugs me. Basically, from the waist down it's like a lightbulb. Try to see what it would look like without the gun and arm in the way, and think about what structures are there. Lower abs, fat deposits, the pelvic bone itself, how the thigh muscle joins with the hip, etc. Also, would the panties sit perfectly horizontal in this pose? Check your reference to find out!
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my art as a tattoo scary thought can't crumble that up and throw it across the room......anyways I pushed the pixels around a little it is still not 100% the hands her right shoulder and her butt all still need help but anyways I thought I would throw in my two cents......