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    Icon If I made a new forum for Traditional Supplies and Equipment?

    I just wanted to ask if our CA patrons would be opposed to having a forum where one can talk shop about traditional supplies and equipment?

    The next question where is the best place to have this forum?


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    I think it would be valuable...but one of those less active forums where you post a link to a specific thread kind of thing. But I'm sure many people would share their equipment, setups, etc. which could be very valuable to people interested in traditional mediums and approaches.

    As far as where? IDK - Art Discussion seems likely? Or if a level above then whatever category Art Discussion is under?
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    Im not really aware of the upsides and downsides to adding subforums, so i'm coming from a bit of a naive standpoint. But I feel like a lot of the subforums are already pretty spread out in terms of active viewers/posters as it is.

    Now i'm kind of wandering outside of the question in the original post, but i thought i'd just throw this out there.
    The entertainment and games forum is a good example of what i mean. I love talking about games but have to go to other sites to talk about them cause there is minimal traffic to the entertainment subsection of the lounge, and i was actually relieved to see someone posted something about a game in the lounge cause it's a game im interested in and it hasn't been moved to the subforum yet, thus theres still a good discussion going on about it. If that same post was in the entertainment forums, over the past week there'd of probably been 2 posts in it, so why bother to even post in it?

    In a nutshell, i'm not aware of the advantages and disadvantages of subforums like that other than things being more organized, but i'd rather trade a lounge full of more random stuff where questions get answered in a matter of days, than a bunch of subforums that get answers over the course of weeks.


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    ARtZealot,

    No I can agree with how the forums are spread out. There's a lot of information that seems to have crossed over to multiple forums or gets lost because people just stick to the Art Discussion/Lounge - when it comes to information about other things. (This is besides the crits and skechbooks).

    I also hate when the forum gets too long - scroll. That's why I was asking because a lot of times there's stuff put in the Art Discussion that becomes:

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    2. Too afraid to post up my art for crits but ask vague questions and expect good answers forum
    3. Too lazy to post in the other related forums about photoshop/painter/wacom/Xprogram so I'll drop it there forum.
    4. Too lazy to look at the other forums in general so I'll post it there forum



    Just wanted to see if that forum would help because it does seem like traditional art supplies don't have a forum but digital does.

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    I agree with ArtZealot about cutting things up too fine - which is why I mentioned it would probably be one of those kinds of sub-forume you link people to when they have a question somewhere else.

    I suggested to Jason a couple weeks ago maybe a forum on "Fundamentals" - maybe instead it could be "Traditional Media, Approach and Fundamentals"...IDK...just maybe fold it into one thing?
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    I would say a create a forum dedicated for only traditional art (discussion, tips, etc...) then have a sub-forum with the supply, equipment, stores, coupons, and so on. However, the chances of this forum been successful is pretty low.
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    I don't think it's necessary by any means, but it wouldn't hurt anything either. Could make things either if somebody is looking for resources.

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    If anything, I'd prefer consolidation to more splitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
    If anything, I'd prefer consolidation to more splitting.
    Which forums would you think need consolidating? Or what would you propose is a reasonable structure?

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    isnt there a fine art forum already? which would lend to traditional media?

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    That seems logical...as a subforum under Fine Arts.
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    The Fine Art forum is in the Overall ARTWORK section and, in my opinion, all threads in those sections should be artwork based (showing work), not discussion based. (Besides, why would traditional media be exclusive to fine art? Of course, if it were up to me the Fine Art forum would be one I would nuke, and fold its contents into FF, Critiques, and Sketchbooks. I think the Entertainment Design forum is redundant as well. YMMV.)
    If this must be done, my suggestion is to rename the Hardware and Software section into something more general and/or inclusive, and put it in there.

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    Thanks Elwell. I will try to think up of more structure possibilities and run it by Jason so that the forums don't lose threads but are moved elsewhere or put as a Subform (like Fine Arts) so that less forums are taking up space on the main page.

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    Good point about traditional media only being associated with Fine Arts...totally didn't think that through so lame on me.

    But I disagree that the ARTWORK section should only be artwork/showing work forums. I think there is a lot to be gained from discussion - hell, half the time that's what we do with our peers anyway, just talk about different aspects, philosophies, techniques - you know.

    The way I see what Arshes is proposing would be less discussion and more examples, pics of gear, materials, easels, holding brushes, where to order supplies, etc.

    I do agree that things are a bit fractured - at the same time some subjects don't need a ton of random discussion but are just there as resource/examples to link to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffX99 View Post
    Good point about traditional media only being associated with Fine Arts...totally didn't think that through so lame on me.

    But I disagree that the ARTWORK section should only be artwork/showing work forums. I think there is a lot to be gained from discussion - hell, half the time that's what we do with our peers anyway, just talk about different aspects, philosophies, techniques - you know.

    The way I see what Arshes is proposing would be less discussion and more examples, pics of gear, materials, easels, holding brushes, where to order supplies, etc.

    I do agree that things are a bit fractured - at the same time some subjects don't need a ton of random discussion but are just there as resource/examples to link to.
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    I like the Fine Art section as it is more traditionally based. There are some great threads there. A sub section for materials would be welcomed. It took me ages to find the acrylic thread on technique at CA and even though I've read it through several times, I'll be hanged if I can remember where it is at a drop of hat. Maybe one sticky with links might be enough except there are so many different mediums to consider. Subforum with one (locked) sticky of every medium might work better. Threads then below could suggest links to other great threads. Each one considered, added with a short description to make them easy to identify what someone might be looking for.

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    There's a Fine Art section? I need to get out of the Lounge once in a while.

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    The proposal is more of a Sister forum for traditional materials like how we have forums dedicated to Digital software/hardware.

    Like Black Spot said it can get hard to find this info because it's scattered.

    Art Discussion is for any medium regardless if it's digital or not, but while I don't want to make a forum for every little thing, I just think the fact that info is scattered despite our encouragement to seek all forums for info ...I think something may need to be done in terms of cleanup/streamlining etc.

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