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    oh no hope it won't be ruined...


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    Quote Originally Posted by damascus57 View Post
    and it became popular amongst adult men. And I wasn't the least bit persuaded to actually buy their toys.
    How do you know you're the only demographic that is interested in it? I know at least adult women for sure. I don't know how many kids, but when I was young, anything having to do with horses was a guaranteed win with every girl I knew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damascus57 View Post
    As Faust is a feminist I'd hate to see her reaction to that statement.. Her design philosophy has always been to create shows for girls that weren't patronizing or the same stupid princess plot each time.
    "Patronizing" is the key word, and not just to cartoons aimed at young girls.

    I think most cartoon writers nowadays need to stop treating any of their young audiences as morons, female or male. It's ruining potentially good concepts in favour of what they THINK will sell, and it gets to the point that even their target audience can see through that.

    MLP isn't exactly missing the audience either. On every episode on Youtube, one of the most viewed audience will always have Female 13-17 on it. Maybe it's not selling the toys as much as it could (thank god), but it's exactly what Faust wanted and then some. I don't think girls are necessarily going to cry in a corner seeing Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy slowly descend into madness; it's just funny!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirana View Post
    How do you know you're the only demographic that is interested in it? I know at least adult women for sure. I don't know how many kids, but when I was young, anything having to do with horses was a guaranteed win with every girl I knew.
    I don't REALLY know for certain, but I don't think saying it became popular amongst adult men excludes it being popular with anyone else either =)

    I just mis-constructed my sentence, that's all.

    So I suppose I should have said 'I think it became more popular amongst adult males than they expected it to, who wouldn't be as inclined to buy the product as Hasbro would like.'

    I have yet to learn the language of 'Covering my ass'


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    i just hope they'll update us with inside info every now and then on whether it is or isn't going to be good (i.e. animators posting whether they're happy or frustrated with how it's turning out, no real details), so we don't descent into hysteria and speculation where we don't need it.
    edit:
    director's twitter seems confident/positive:
    http://twitter.com/#!/goldenrusset
    i'm still torn between hope and despair. trying to wrestle down my feelings abit. it's been long since i've let myself get this involved with a show.

    edit2:
    i feel re-assured.
    (posts taken from ponychan.net)
    "Aside from the fact that she wasn't fired.

    Jesus Jackhammering Christ, chances are as she got further along in season 1 she realized that she was slowly losing creative control to the writers and artists (who she thanks), since an episodic structure (the one point of executive meddling that might have caused this.)

    Face it, she wanted episodes 1&2 to be the template, and instead got Tales from Ponyville, not that there wasn't continuity (hell Best Night Ever was practically continuity porn.)

    notice she says Personal creative involvment and creative control.

    Creative involvement went out the window when she had to defer to the various writers and artists, and probably became impersonal when she had to be the boss and worry about things like, how close are we to the deadline over, this isn't quite right, redo it. As for Creative control, she had less once it got past episode 3 when writers took over, and once again had to make it impersonal when she had to say things like, "I'm going to have to cut out these lines, and this joke."

    tl;dr Not the end of the world or the end of the franchise as we like it."

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    @damascus57: Ha, I wasn't going by just that sentence alone. It seemed to me you were saying, "The company is demoting this creator I like because it ended up targeting the male demographic who don't buy pony toys." Thus saying it must not be popular with the intended demo, or those who buy the product.

    I could also say I know a lot of adults who buy plenty of toys. It wasn't a srs bznz comment from me though. Just teasing you.

    Hasbro IS in the market of toys, but as has been proven with other companies who get into the entertainment biz, that is not all they make money from. A popular toon is still going to make good money, even without the bonus of merchandise.

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    That's a very resounding and confident "We're fine guys" that I've heard. I feel better, I will keep Winter wrap up as my ringtone.

    I have to admit, when I first heard the news my reaction was:

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    But I guess I'm more enthused about Season 2 =)

    And thanks Miranda =) It's always difficult to determine when someone's being funny and when someone's giving a little nudge.

    And... Wow.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...#ht_500wt_1156

    I wish I could get paid like that... Thankfully that's all being donated to Japan.
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    My face if season 2 sucks:

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    But the words certainly are reassuring.

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    BOING!
    ms. faust didn't mention a certain detail that shines a WHOLE new light on the whole situation:
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    i am now completely comfortable again.
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    Oh.

    OH THAT IS BRILLIANT.

    I feel that if she wants to keep that kind of information low profile, perhaps we should respect that. But still..
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    Quote Originally Posted by damascus57 View Post
    Oh.

    OH THAT IS BRILLIANT.

    I feel that if she wants to keep that kind of information low profile, perhaps we should respect that. But still..
    heh, too late for that.
    ponychan already exploded with the news...
    http://www.ponychan.net/chan/pony/res/2482001.html
    edit: k, they've put out an appeal to not mention it on her da page, apparently she doesn't want it known yet.
    shiiiiiit.
    still, EXCITED!

    EDIT2:
    as in, she's hiding those comments.
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    it's confirmed!
    http://fyre-flye.deviantart.com/jour...8056/#comments
    (now i get all those people who were riled up over the royal wedding; this is the most amazing emotional rollercoaster i've been on for DECADES! this fandom rocks!)
    (and even if she's says that's not the reason, i don't care)
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    Oh you are just adorable Carnifex =)
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    Also... I kinda care. I care about her reason because I want to figure out her chances of coming back to work on the show. Because she's the kind of person who would stand up to the marketing department to prevent things like This being integrated into the art style and advertised to no end.

    Nonetheless, insanely happy for her and Craig with the great news outside of the realm of animation.
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    HOW IS BABBBBY FORMED?!

    Awesome news for the Fausts, though! I'm excited to see the babbbby!

    Season 2 should be fine in quality.....too bad we have to wait until December....Q.Q. Or so I've read.
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    I don't mind it. Shows like Powerpuff and Foster's Home certainly did warm my heart quite a bit, and this show has had the same effect, but going crazy over-the-top bronie for a fandom I like with detached curiosity, I ain't.
    However, glad to see that the second season is coming out, even if I have yet to watch past the first 2 episodes on the original.
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