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    Ding, Dong

    Well Osama Bin Laden is dead! Just heard our ROTC jogging down the street singing and holding a huge American flag. It made me smile.
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    It's hard for me personally to rejoice in another person's death; but at the same time it's also a good sense of closure. "Finally". I hope the bullets were painful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wingal View Post
    Just heard our ROTC jogging down the street singing and holding a huge American flag. It made me smile.
    This doesn't make me as happy as it fills me with pity. Never have I seen so many people so happy about someone dying. I saw some footage about a crowd waving their American flag shouting 'USA. USA. USA.' I know you Americans have this sense of justice based around Eye for an eye, but I still don't like the idea that death causes happiness.

    EDIT: Yes, I understand and agree that he needed to be prevented from creating further destruction, but at the same time we need to be maintaining our humanity and remorse in performing distasteful actions. We need not adopt the same sadistic mentality as him, otherwise we'll just be no better than he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p sage View Post
    It's hard for me personally to rejoice in another person's death; but at the same time it's also a good sense of closure. "Finally". I hope the bullets were painful.
    Exactly how I feel. I know its wrong but, I do I take joy at the thought of him rotting in hell for all of eternity. Call me wrong or a bad person because of it, but i still feel that way.

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    But as for closure, I'm somewhat worried about this. I got this weird feeling in my gut that it's going to get a whole lot worse in backlash to this.
    I'm worried about this too, Osama was just one man and there is still the rest of of his gang out there. But for now I smile.
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    One of the few times I'm really glad someone is dead. Caused my father's company (Delta) to go down tremendously, cut his salary almost in thirds and made life a bit harder. Also, the fact that this radical bastard contributed to the death of thousands.

    This won't solve much to be honest, and no doubt the radical Islamic world will be revolting. But AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!

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    Well as I've read from many people talking about this.
    America isn't the only one who hated him. They've made attacks all over the world.

    Its Wikipedia so I'll take with a grain of salt details but you get the gist.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timelin...-Qaeda_attacks





    Hell probably many more than whats listed there too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p sage View Post
    It's hard for me personally to rejoice in another person's death;
    I openly rejoice, fuck that asshole. I'm glad he's dead.

    All these retarded security measures, all the lives lost trying to find him, families broke up in 911. I think its okay to be glad he's gone. We finally got the sucker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by damascus57 View Post
    This doesn't make me as happy as it fills me with pity. Never have I seen so many people so happy about someone dying. I saw some footage about a crowd waving their American flag shouting 'USA. USA. USA.' I know you Americans have this sense of justice based around Eye for an eye, but I still don't like the idea that death causes happiness.
    He wasn't a freedom fighter. He wasn't a hero. He spent a good chunk of his life dedicated to hatred. Sure, it's not the moral high ground but the world has not suffered a great loss here. And he wasn't just a person, he symbolized something more to many people. The symbol is now gone.
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    I personally am happy. I was in a military family and Usama caused a lot of fear in all of us. Our neighborhood lost one of our dearest neighbors to 9/11. This guy was awesome, he had barbeque's every weekend in the summer and was one of the nicest guys we all knew. We still miss him.
    Currently, theres some fireworks going on outside and I can hear my neighborhood being all happy.

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    Personally my blood ran cold when I heard them say he was in Islamabad or Abbotabad-- both are affluent, forward thinking cities where extremism isn't common at all... I mean, just watch the movie "Slackistan--" for christsakes... *shakes head* I just don't want the media to demonize my country anymore. We have enough domestic issues to deal with without becoming international pariahs because one crazy yahoo decided to hide out in the Beverly Hills of Pakistan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtZealot View Post
    All these retarded security measures,
    Though I wonder how much they'll "ramp up" the security now, in fear of revenge and for how long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinyBird View Post
    Though I wonder how much they'll "ramp up" the security now, in fear of revenge and for how long.
    haha yeah thats a good point. They'll (the government) will use any excuse they can to tighten up security. I'll probably have a body scanner outside my apartment tomorrow that i have to go through to enter and leave my place.
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    What a long wait that was. I watched the correspondents dinner last night and Obama seemed rather cheery. Now I know why. This also will see him re-elected in all likelihood.

    To all those who lost someone to the war, to the attacks, to the heinous violence...may you rest in peace and may you or your family feel some small sense of closure.

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    Sadly, we will never know the names of the brave people who made this possible, both intelligence and soldiers... such is the nature of their work. As we stay safe in our homes and draw pictures someone out there is risking their life on a daily basis to protect us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.ketch View Post
    The symbol is now gone.
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    One man dying doesn't really make a difference if you ask me. For those who opposed him, yea there's probably some closure to be had. As for his cause, his death is probably just fuel for the fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.ketch View Post
    He wasn't a freedom fighter. He wasn't a hero. He spent a good chunk of his life dedicated to hatred. Sure, it's not the moral high ground but the world has not suffered a great loss here. And he wasn't just a person, he symbolized something more to many people. The symbol is now gone.
    The symbol is gone, but what the symbol stood for is still intact, and it's only a matter of time before something or someone else comes to symbolize it.

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    Bin Laden gets bad news on arrival in Hell. The actual Great Satan REALLY pissed off that he's been bandying his name about for years.
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    I never expected this to happen, but turns out that it has!

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    I'd have preferred to see him captured and put on trial before execution simply because it would have verified his punishment as reality - there's already conspiracy theories about what has and hasn't happened - but the American government has little to gain (more realistically: too much to lose) from lying about this so it's probably safe to accept the official word.

    The celebrating in the streets perplexes me. The (under-reported) people sitting reflectively on the pavement with photographs and candles I get, those chugging beer and chanting U-S-A!, I do not. Al-Qaida is a network and an ideology. A corrosive and extreme one. That might (and hopefully will) crumble without its 'charismatic leader' but currently it still exists, and it's still a threat. And these are people who felt it was justified to fly planes stuffed with civilians into buildings without provocation. Talk of symbolism all you like, this hasn't ended the so-called 'war on terror' any more than the falling statue ended the war in Iraq.

    I'm all for peace and victory but this feels like it's being accepted as premature and over-simplified.

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    I'm certainly one of those that is happy about the news.
    I'm not "happy another human being is dead", because as far as I am concerned he was not human. Regardless of your cause, it's not a human thing to do to orchestrate the death of thousands of innocent people because of your beliefs.

    I'm not gonna drone on and on about "NEVER FORGET!", but a lot of people *DO* forget in terms of how destructive of a person he was and what he has done for his cause. Not only in the past but surely what he would plan in the future.

    The warring and the hate will unfortunately never end, but this man is symbolic for a lot of people. People that actually lost loved ones from the attacks finally get a SMALL bit of closure for what this man (and others like him) stole from them. And while I did not personally lose anyone in those attacks, I am empathetic to their feelings, so I feel much relief for them and for the safety of my own loved ones in hopes that they will never have to suffer the same feelings or fate.

    I don't think it's a time to get self-righteous about this, and I see a lot of it online right now. I'm a peaceful person, too, but to try and make people feel BAD for being relieved that such a dangerous man is finally no longer on this planet is a pretty rotten thing to do, imo.

    I won't feel guilty about that feeling of relief and I don't think anyone else should either.

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    Honestly until last night I (and probably a majority of Americans) thought he had died long ago and we'd never know what really happened to him. Gotta admit I was surprised as hell and cheering at the TV when they said they got em. I think a lot of people were celebrating because of that closure, not because we thought we won the war on terror. Hearing he got shot in the head and not just bombed to hell made it even sweeter.

    Gives me a warm feeling inside knowing he probably awoke to helicopters overhead and had an "oh shit" moment before he died. Looking forward to seeing his death shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty View Post
    I'm certainly one of those that is happy about the news.
    I'm not "happy another human being is dead", because as far as I am concerned he was not human. Regardless of your cause, it's not a human thing to do to orchestrate the death of thousands of innocent people because of your beliefs.
    That's entirely human.
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    This one death accomplishes nothing. If he'd been killed earlier on, it may(I stress 'may') have reduced the amount of people he's bred and trained in the ten years since the initial attacks.
    The way I look at it, this is just another day in the front row seat of the circus of humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewHD View Post
    That's entirely human.
    You missed my point, but touche' nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Manley View Post
    What a long wait that was. I watched the correspondents dinner last night and Obama seemed rather cheery.
    hah, yeah i was thinking about that in hindsight as well. He got some free potshots at trump cause he knew the next day, there was going to be one thing on everyone's mind, and it wasn't obama's birth certificate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schnookiefoo View Post
    Honestly until last night I (and probably a majority of Americans) thought he had died long ago and we'd never know what really happened to him. Gotta admit I was surprised as hell and cheering at the TV when they said they got em. I think a lot of people were celebrating because of that closure, not because we thought we won the war on terror. Hearing he got shot in the head and not just bombed to hell made it even sweeter.

    Gives me a warm feeling inside knowing he probably awoke to helicopters overhead and had an "oh shit" moment before he died. Looking forward to seeing his death shot.
    Same here - Prior to the news of the successful operation and his subsequent death, I was pretty damn convinced that Osama died in the mountains and caves of Afghanistan. Because before the news, I recall he was on dialysis. And you sure as fuck can't afford to be suffering from a loss of Kidney function without some aid, let alone in one of the most inhospitable places in the world to be in, as well as being hunted by the most technologically advanced military in the world, and being pounded by bombs around the clock. So I was pretty damn surprised when I learned of his death in Abbottabad.

    Normally, I tend not to celebrate deaths, but news of Osama's demise brought a smile to my face. Last time that happened was when Falwell kicked the bucket.

    Burn in Hell Osama (If there is one, but I'm just being metaphorical).
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    "I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that."
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