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April 17th, 2011 #1
I found this very familiar looking image in the 6/2010 issue of "digit!" in an article about the Photoshop Convention 2010 in Munich. It is supposed to be a "virtual" cover for a car catalog and was used in a lecture about the workflow in a advertising agency.
The caption says:
"From the idea to the catalog cover: From scribble, car shooting (courtesy of Robin Preston) and a (non-final) Illustration by Tom Krieger, a motif, which was created for the photoshop convention and not quite finished, emerges in workflow with Andre Price and Marius Schwiegk (both Jung von Matt)."
Jung von Matt is one of the biggest ad agencys in germany. And take a look at Tom Kriegers client list and his portfolio. http://www.tomkrieger.com/
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April 17th, 2011 #2
whaaaaaat. no way that was an accident. that sucks.
April 17th, 2011 #3
Why dont you just email Andrew Jones...
doesn't that make more sense that posting it here?
Plagiarism happens every day, and just because its Android doesn't make it any worse.
Its bad that it happened, but not a tragedy.
If anything, this is a testament to how big he is.
April 17th, 2011 #4
@Aryeh- I did, he asked me to post it in the lounge. And it's not pissing me off so much because it's Android, but because there is a quite successful illustrator and a big ad agency involved- they should really know better and be able to do something on their own.
April 17th, 2011 #5
That and the fact t that it is posted in the lounge means it will be viewed by more people, meaning the perpetrator's actions will bee seen and judged by more people. Remember Crahzz? Yeah. I don't think his backside has really recovered yet.
Can't wait to see what wonders become of this thread ^^
April 17th, 2011 #6
The ripoff aside, this cover doesn't make any sense lol. You advertise a modern car and you put some strange plant-bird-whatever fantasy woman head? Come on. Put some robots if you will, but this is just fail.
April 17th, 2011 #7
The fact that he's even done a preliminary sketch is like a nails in the coffin. If he'd just used the image maybe he could have squirmed his way out of guilt with an apology and giving credit. The sketch is proof of further trying to say he created it.
To give him some credit, he has worked it quite a bit. I mean horizontal flip, that's pretty special in it's own right. :p
April 17th, 2011 #8
sorry, double post ><
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April 17th, 2011 #11
This is so fucking sad. It doesn't even resemble the "sketch".
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April 17th, 2011 #15
Thanks for posting Android's piece as well Jake. At first I was like, "Well yeah, they're definitely working in Android's style but how is it actually a rip?" And there it is. Hell I'd send this to the editor of "digit!" magazine...the pres of the ad agency...and the Mom of the artist who ripped it.
I realize it's not a tragedy...any more than a good ass-kicking is a tragedy for the bastard responsible.
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looking at his website he seems to making a living from it and he obviously has a good imagination and level of photoshop skill. I think it's a shame that he's shooting himself in the foot pulling this sort of stuff. I was looking at his work thinking 'very nice image, but how much work did he really put into it?' all he needs to do is take his own reference photos. What a git!
April 17th, 2011 #18
I like the very helpful 'making of' video from his blog. The steps seem to be:
1. Blur a stock image.
2. Paste someone into it.
3. Lens flare.
At least he's not trying to pass his work off as paintings anymore. I could feign more outrage but the stolen Android picture looks so ridiculously out of place floating above some car, I'm more confused about how anyone in advertising could think that was a good idea. I don't have a sharp forensic insight into car advertising but I'm pretty sure mutant-flower-ladies isn't a hot selling point at the moment... audaciously plagiarised or not.
April 17th, 2011 #19
I pulled up someone on one of my sites for something like this. He's been pretending to do drawings by taking artwork from a game, sticking it in photoshop, and applying a brush filter to it.
Nothing more. No smart way or anything, just sheer, stupid, lazy copying. Dammnit. Back on subject, has anyone got in touch with Android about this? Don't think he'll be happy, somehow.
April 17th, 2011 #20
Well, he calls himself Fotoillustrator. At first I wondered why he didn't just use some personal pictures he fabricated (exploding chick or man with elephant on his head maybe?). Stealing a well known picture of a popular artist is such an amazingly stupid move. But now as it turns out that there might be similar copyright issues with many of his other pictures, this seems less astonishing. I don't think he is bullshitting about the clients, agencies and publishers he claims to work for, however, so he makes quite a good living as a photoillustrator.
Droid- I sent him a pm.
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April 17th, 2011 #21
If a company ever winds up stealing my artwork, and assuming I get no response and am too poor to pursue serious legal action, I'm totally adding them to my résumé.
Create a section in there of it's own: "I've also, apparently, done work for..."
April 18th, 2011 #22
I think that Andrew Jones should definitely do whatever it takes to make this right.
I guess i just dont see how posting in the forums brings any kind of justice to this situation.
The problem is that you're dealing with international law and accountability at this point. Its tough...
April 18th, 2011 #23
The lady's face hovering above the car makes for a great advertisement. It makes so much sense. He should work for Wolff Olins.
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April 18th, 2011 #24
well i don't think it's of big use to take legal action on this. best thing would be to spread the word as much as possible.
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And then this happens: http://bentcorner.com/pretend-artist...leges-revoked/
April 18th, 2011 #27
:Z !!!! Thanks for posting that. Maybe a little legal action is called for.
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April 18th, 2011 #29
I sent this just now.
It seems that your client Tom Krieger is a plagiarist. This was posted on my website today and it contains an image from my business partner's portfolio. http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=219111
Please see the above link and let me know if the artwork was used for commercial purposes.
Mr. Krieger. Cease and Desist from all usage of Mr Andrew Jones artwork in your photoshop paintovers. You are infringing on the copyrights of others and it must stop.
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ugh. Really now.