Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 13 of 25

Thread: Loomis Books

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Hull, England, United Kingdom
    Posts
    149
    Thanks
    25
    Thanked 22 Times in 22 Posts

    Loomis Books

    I just downloaded these PDFs because I couldn't find the actual books anywhere, wondering which order I should read them in and which are the most useful to a beginner who is trying to learn to draw, or should I wait until I'm a little better?

    - Creative Illustration
    - Figure Drawing For All It's Worth
    - Fun With A Pencil
    - Eye Of The Painter (I don't plan on painting until my drawings are better)
    - Successful Drawing

    My Sketch Book: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...=1#post3085866

    Please comment+critique
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote


  2. Hide this ad by registering as a member
  3. The Following User Says Thank You to SemperOne For This Useful Post:


  4. #2
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Hull, England, United Kingdom
    Posts
    149
    Thanks
    25
    Thanked 22 Times in 22 Posts
    Just a bump before bed and hope for a reply in morning, please, anyone who has read these books by Loomis give me some insight before I waste my hours away that could be spent drawing (very slow reader)

    My Sketch Book: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...=1#post3085866

    Please comment+critique
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  5. The Following User Says Thank You to SemperOne For This Useful Post:


  6. #3
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Singapore
    Posts
    1,531
    Thanks
    6,809
    Thanked 348 Times in 275 Posts

    Thumbs up

    Quote Originally Posted by SemperOne View Post
    I just downloaded these PDFs because I couldn't find the actual books anywhere, wondering which order I should read them in and which are the most useful to a beginner who is trying to learn to draw, or should I wait until I'm a little better?

    - Creative Illustration
    - Figure Drawing For All It's Worth
    - Fun With A Pencil
    - Eye Of The Painter (I don't plan on painting until my drawings are better)
    - Successful Drawing
    I would say start with Successful Drawing first, then Figure drawing for all it's worth, then Eye of the painter and lastly Creative Illustration.

    I think its best to complement Successful Drawing with a good and easy book on perspective, like Ernest Norling's "Perspective made easy". Reason being Loomis straight away jumps into the more advanced perspective principles which is daunting. And the perspective theories in Successful Drawing is really intense.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  7. #4
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Haifa, Israel
    Posts
    4,485
    Thanks
    2,462
    Thanked 2,499 Times in 1,548 Posts
    In this order:

    Fun With A Pencil / Successful Drawing
    Figure Drawing For All It's Worth / Drawing Head and Hands.
    Creative Illustration

    Eye Of The Painter is more about art theory than technique.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  8. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Montreal, QC
    Posts
    1,007
    Thanks
    333
    Thanked 220 Times in 183 Posts
    Yep, you should start with - Fun With A Pencil... ut teach you important stuff about structure and form before stressing you too much with getting realistic proportions, it still covers it but later in the book, and you should transition to the other books like arenhaus said.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  9. #6
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Taipei, Taiwan
    Posts
    141
    Thanks
    38
    Thanked 303 Times in 45 Posts
    The Andrew Loomis books are currently being reprinted.

    Figure Drawing for All it's Worth is being released late next month
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/085...?tag=parblo-20

    Drawing the Heads and Hands in October
    http://www.amazon.com/Drawing-Head-H...d_bxgy_b_img_b

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  10. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to KEM720 For This Useful Post:


  11. #7
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Hull, England, United Kingdom
    Posts
    149
    Thanks
    25
    Thanked 22 Times in 22 Posts
    Just started the fun with a pencil book, and I feel like I'm stuck at the first hurdle, drawing the funny character heads, all the ones copied from the book just look wonky and out of proportion, and if I try to make my own I just get lost on which lines to erase etc.

    I'm beginning to wonder if I could ever even become an artist

    My Sketch Book: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...=1#post3085866

    Please comment+critique
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  12. #8
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Montreal, QC
    Posts
    1,007
    Thanks
    333
    Thanked 220 Times in 183 Posts
    Just try to understand what he is trying to explain with all these examples, and do your best. You may not understand everything now, but with time and practice it will start to make more sense. Its ok to make mistake dont get discouraged. I covered at least 2 sketchbooks with only stick figures before i started to understand what it was worth.. i was frustrated because i could not draw these stick figures as well as loomis.. dont struggle too much with the accuracy of the line of the ''block-in'' or construction.. in a sense its only meant to be a guide, so dont get crazy erasing too much stuff.. draw lightly and keep copying the drawings from the book.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  13. The Following User Says Thank You to VirgL For This Useful Post:


  14. #9
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Singapore
    Posts
    1,531
    Thanks
    6,809
    Thanked 348 Times in 275 Posts

    Thumbs up

    Quote Originally Posted by SemperOne View Post
    Just started the fun with a pencil book, and I feel like I'm stuck at the first hurdle, drawing the funny character heads, all the ones copied from the book just look wonky and out of proportion, and if I try to make my own I just get lost on which lines to erase etc.
    I wonder if you should even start on Loomis' books in the first place.
    IMO, I think it's better to just draw from life and get those basic drawing books first before starting on any of Loomis' books including Fun with a pencil.

    "Fun with a pencil" may look simple and easy for beginners but its' not.

    The part on the ball / plane method on drawing the head in that book requires a super solid understanding of perspective which I myself is still shaky at this moment. Those parts where he adds those smaller forms to the cartoon heads requires a good understanding of form and structure. The drawing of those cartoony clothes requires understanding of drapery.
    Cartooning and stylization is a step after realistic drawing, not the other way round.

    Because he teaches mostly cartoon drawing in that book, and if you don't have a good understanding of realistic drawing from life and you jump straight into stylizing your drawings as cartoons by copying from his books, you may end up not knowing what you're doing.

    Better to draw and study from life at this stage as your first priority, and if you want, play with that book in your spare time. Just my 2 cents because I encountered this same issue before. You're feeling discouraged because Loomis' books are too advanced for you and thus you end up feeling drawing isn't for you. Wrong! Try "Keys to drawing" or "Drawing with your artists' brain" (Carl Purcell).

    I checked out your SB but the images don't show up, so I dunno what level you're, but you could very well be on the level of folks like Arenhaus or Jeff or DPaint or Joe Kubert, and if that's the case, I eat back all my words. LOL
    (it's always like this: people come to CA to say they can't draw and when I check out their SB, their works are professional grade LOL! Better to advise with caution)

    I'm beginning to wonder if I could ever even become an artist
    I quote Sheldon: "The only way to fail is to quit".
    If you quit now, you have zero hopes of becoming an artist.

    Good luck,
    Xeon

    Last edited by Xeon_OND; April 5th, 2011 at 09:10 PM.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  15. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Xeon_OND For This Useful Post:


  16. #10
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    3
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Loomis Books

    Start with Fun with a Pencil. Figure drawing for all it's worth, Drawing head and hands, sucesfull drawing. Creative illustration,then Eye of the painter. In using fun with the pencil don't copy as much as use his guidelines to work from memory. another good book is perard anatomy and drawing and vanderpool's book on drawing. Just using perard and loomis I am working on being able to draw the figure in any position from memory . Look at mentlers work on this site as it is full of good information. Do hope they republish loomis' books so they will get into the hands of people that can use them without being ripped off paying collector prices for needed information.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  17. #11
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Hull, England, United Kingdom
    Posts
    149
    Thanks
    25
    Thanked 22 Times in 22 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Xeon_OND View Post

    I checked out your SB but the images don't show up, so I dunno what level you're, but you could very well be on the level of folks like Arenhaus or Jeff or DPaint or Joe Kubert, and if that's the case, I eat back all my words. LOL
    (it's always like this: people come to CA to say they can't draw and when I check out their SB, their works are professional grade LOL! Better to advise with caution)


    I quote Sheldon: "The only way to fail is to quit".
    If you quit now, you have zero hopes of becoming an artist.

    Good luck,
    Xeon
    Thanks a lot for the motivational quote haha, I put the book down and did a few more life drawings and im feeling uplifted again, I will wait until I'm ready for Loomis I guess, and yeah a lot of the forum is messing up for me tonight, most images aint loading, I'm definitely not above average haha, I know what you mean about amazing artists putting themselves down, here's a link to a sketch I did earlier that I'm satisfied with, keep in mind I've only been practicing for a week or so

    http://i53.tinypic.com/311mkpt.jpg

    My Sketch Book: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...=1#post3085866

    Please comment+critique
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  18. The Following User Says Thank You to SemperOne For This Useful Post:


  19. #12
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Singapore
    Posts
    1,531
    Thanks
    6,809
    Thanked 348 Times in 275 Posts

    Thumbs up

    Saw that drawing of the hand. Not bad considering you've only drawn for a week! If it's any consolation, I wasn't even anywhere close when I first started out.

    It's best to start with simple still life objects (boxes, books etc.) and then slowly proceed to more organic-looking objects (shoes, leaf, flower) and then take it on from there.

    Just make sure to study perspective as well. Seedling here has a Perspective 101 thread. Try searching for it.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  20. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Xeon_OND For This Useful Post:


  21. #13
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Maine
    Posts
    101
    Thanks
    41
    Thanked 22 Times in 16 Posts
    I did Fun with a Pencil first then Successful Drawing and I think it works best that way because you get a reminder to have fun drawing while your doing studies. Xeon is right, the perspective techniques in Successful Drawing can get daunting but they are extremely valuable to add to your skill set.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  22. The Following User Says Thank You to ArcZephyer For This Useful Post:


Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Members who have read this thread: 2

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • 424,149 Artists
  • 3,599,276 Artist Posts
  • 32,941 Sketchbooks
  • 54 New Art Jobs
Art Workshop Discount Inside
Register

Developed Actively by vBSocial.com
SpringOfSea's Sketchbook