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I just downloaded these PDFs because I couldn't find the actual books anywhere, wondering which order I should read them in and which are the most useful to a beginner who is trying to learn to draw, or should I wait until I'm a little better?
- Creative Illustration
- Figure Drawing For All It's Worth
- Fun With A Pencil
- Eye Of The Painter (I don't plan on painting until my drawings are better)
- Successful Drawing
Just a bump before bed and hope for a reply in morning, please, anyone who has read these books by Loomis give me some insight before I waste my hours away that could be spent drawing (very slow reader)
I think its best to complement Successful Drawing with a good and easy book on perspective, like Ernest Norling's "Perspective made easy". Reason being Loomis straight away jumps into the more advanced perspective principles which is daunting. And the perspective theories in Successful Drawing is really intense.
Yep, you should start with - Fun With A Pencil... ut teach you important stuff about structure and form before stressing you too much with getting realistic proportions, it still covers it but later in the book, and you should transition to the other books like arenhaus said.
The Andrew Loomis books are currently being reprinted.
Figure Drawing for All it's Worth is being released late next month
Drawing the Heads and Hands in October
Just started the fun with a pencil book, and I feel like I'm stuck at the first hurdle, drawing the funny character heads, all the ones copied from the book just look wonky and out of proportion, and if I try to make my own I just get lost on which lines to erase etc.
I'm beginning to wonder if I could ever even become an artist
Just try to understand what he is trying to explain with all these examples, and do your best. You may not understand everything now, but with time and practice it will start to make more sense. Its ok to make mistake dont get discouraged. I covered at least 2 sketchbooks with only stick figures before i started to understand what it was worth.. i was frustrated because i could not draw these stick figures as well as loomis.. dont struggle too much with the accuracy of the line of the ''block-in'' or construction.. in a sense its only meant to be a guide, so dont get crazy erasing too much stuff.. draw lightly and keep copying the drawings from the book.
IMO, I think it's better to just draw from life and get those basic drawing books first before starting on any of Loomis' books including Fun with a pencil.
"Fun with a pencil" may look simple and easy for beginners but its' not.
The part on the ball / plane method on drawing the head in that book requires a super solid understanding of perspective which I myself is still shaky at this moment. Those parts where he adds those smaller forms to the cartoon heads requires a good understanding of form and structure. The drawing of those cartoony clothes requires understanding of drapery.
Cartooning and stylization is a step after realistic drawing, not the other way round.
Because he teaches mostly cartoon drawing in that book, and if you don't have a good understanding of realistic drawing from life and you jump straight into stylizing your drawings as cartoons by copying from his books, you may end up not knowing what you're doing.
Better to draw and study from life at this stage as your first priority, and if you want, play with that book in your spare time. Just my 2 cents because I encountered this same issue before. You're feeling discouraged because Loomis' books are too advanced for you and thus you end up feeling drawing isn't for you. Wrong! Try "Keys to drawing" or "Drawing with your artists' brain" (Carl Purcell).
I checked out your SB but the images don't show up, so I dunno what level you're, but you could very well be on the level of folks like Arenhaus or Jeff or DPaint or Joe Kubert, and if that's the case, I eat back all my words. LOL
(it's always like this: people come to CA to say they can't draw and when I check out their SB, their works are professional grade LOL! Better to advise with caution)
I quote Sheldon: "The only way to fail is to quit".I'm beginning to wonder if I could ever even become an artist
If you quit now, you have zero hopes of becoming an artist.
Last edited by Xeon_OND; April 5th, 2011 at 09:10 PM.
Start with Fun with a Pencil. Figure drawing for all it's worth, Drawing head and hands, sucesfull drawing. Creative illustration,then Eye of the painter. In using fun with the pencil don't copy as much as use his guidelines to work from memory. another good book is perard anatomy and drawing and vanderpool's book on drawing. Just using perard and loomis I am working on being able to draw the figure in any position from memory . Look at mentlers work on this site as it is full of good information. Do hope they republish loomis' books so they will get into the hands of people that can use them without being ripped off paying collector prices for needed information.
Saw that drawing of the hand. Not bad considering you've only drawn for a week! If it's any consolation, I wasn't even anywhere close when I first started out.
It's best to start with simple still life objects (boxes, books etc.) and then slowly proceed to more organic-looking objects (shoes, leaf, flower) and then take it on from there.
Just make sure to study perspective as well. Seedling here has a Perspective 101 thread. Try searching for it.
I did Fun with a Pencil first then Successful Drawing and I think it works best that way because you get a reminder to have fun drawing while your doing studies. Xeon is right, the perspective techniques in Successful Drawing can get daunting but they are extremely valuable to add to your skill set.
Don't read them page by page, use them for reference. Chances are you will be going back over and over again anyway because you forgot something. Also, Loomis doesn't use perfect English in the jotted notes, so reading it page to page might not be wise. Scroll through the PDF until you find something related to what you want to find out about and read it.
I already pre-ordered my figure drawing one back in March or so.
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I just got my copy, so excited to finally have it hardback. Says on amazon it wont release until the 27th but it arrived today so *does happy dance* It's a lot bigger than I thought as well O.O
got my copy of figure drawing today aswell, funk yer!
So does this mean all the sites we sent beginners to so they can download the books won't be online any more (or even if they are, site rules would forbid us providing links)? Much as I like the idea of having physical copies I'm afraid it might be just that slight bit harder to help artists just starting out get to the information they need.
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