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    Quote Originally Posted by rabbit run View Post
    Well. It's good to learn some things, but it might become a problem when you pick up the same bad habits. :/ (and there are some REALLY bad habits in that video..)
    Oh, make no mistake, those vids are some of the worst things on the internet. He's the Rebecca Black of art tutorials.


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    Yep - the worst bad habit in those is recording your crap and putting it on youtube.

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    I'm pretty sure that vid post was an attempted conversational jiu jitsu move.

    At least Icarus tried!


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    Alright, I'm done trolling (Vineris called it). Thanks for the smiles guys.

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    Am I the only one whose neck tingled watching that Disney video? Is that sad?

    The beast is a masterpiece in character design imo.

    Also, If I don't reach my artistic goals I'm just going to go back in time and replace Da Vinci, just so you guys know In advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmenSpirits View Post
    Sequential art is a REALLY difficult medium to work in, and do well, and shouldn't be belittled with the kind of comparison you're making.

    EXAMPLE: The GODS!

    The 2nd guy has L33T skills!
    @ 4:44 min into the video, it goes "this guy sees the figure before he draws it....what are you doing? You're tracing something! (jokingly)" Amazing! Reminds me of Marko.

    @ Matthew: The safest job in the world is selling ice-cream by the roadside, not working at Disney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeon_OND View Post
    The 2nd guy has L33T skills!
    @ 4:44 min into the video, it goes "this guy sees the figure before he draws it....what are you doing? You're tracing something! (jokingly)" Amazing! Reminds me of Marko.

    @ Matthew: The safest job in the world is selling ice-cream by the roadside, not working at Disney.
    Um, these guys have been doing this since the 40's through now.

    Before Marko.

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    ...and that "second guy" just gets better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewHD View Post
    All I'm saying is that Disney would be my safe bet, either that or working for FUNimation.
    Dude, that's like saying if Fort Knox doesn't work out, maybe I'll try breaking into Alcatraz?

    (They are both places that are hard to get into)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewHD View Post
    Alright, I'm done trolling (Vineris called it). Thanks for the smiles guys.
    I'm glad you had a chuckle.
    But it'll probably be that inability to take stuff like this a little more seriously that will make a lot of people not want to help you with future threads/questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cory Hinman View Post
    ...and that "second guy" just gets better!
    *runs streaking* KUBERT IS GOD! *runs on*



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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewHD View Post
    I figured. Well, if my goals fall through, at least I can get a job at Disney since you can pretty much just copy from anime books to get the skill you need to work there.

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    All I'm saying is that Disney would be my safe bet, either that or working for FUNimation.
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    Alright, I'm done trolling (Vineris called it). Thanks for the smiles guys.


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    Was OP interested in getting a job as an animator?

    If that's the case, then maybe he's asking the wrong questions.

    The misunderstanding comes from the word "style", as it often seems to, from lesser experienced art students.

    Style isn't something you're born with; style is something you develop, and it is (or can be) deliberate.

    Style is also not genre, nor is it media. It's not classical vs. cartoon, nor is it charcoal vs. pen and ink vs. pixels.

    Maybe OP saw himself as someone with a cartoon "style", so he was looking for confirmation that this style would better suit his pursuit of a career in animation.

    The best answers have been given already; learn the craft of drawing first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty View Post
    I'm glad you had a chuckle.
    But it'll probably be that inability to take stuff like this a little more seriously that will make a lot of people not want to help you with future threads/questions.
    Heh, I should be the one who is offended here. I'm new, but that doesn't mean I'm stupid. You all should have realized right away that such a comment about "Disney being a safe bet" is just silly-willy.

    You all think I'm naive! Thanks alot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewHD View Post
    Heh, I should be the one who is offended here. I'm new, but that doesn't mean I'm stupid. You all should have realized right away that such a comment about "Disney being a safe bet" is just silly-willy.

    You all think I'm naive! Thanks alot.


    (and just in case, yes, this is a sarcastic post)
    No, no...I get it. And I'm am sure others did as well (Hence the "I'm sure you are kidding, but...." replies), but the way you persisted with it lost it's humor fairly quickly. And then the self-admission to trolling basically said (to me, anyway), "I'm just messing around here".

    Now, before another tight-ass accuses me of being a tight-ass, I'm not saying everything always has to be "srz-biz" with art. Far from it. But, in general, I would say in threads where advice and learning is taking place, to refrain from the trollings. As Jeff('s dad) said, "No one likes a smart ass".

    I was only pointing out that peoples' patience when trying to help and advise other people can run thin fairly quickly if a lack of interest is shown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffX99 View Post
    No one likes a smart ass. Just how nature is.
    does having a style improve chances at getting certain jobs?

    Explain.

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    The issue is that the OP asked for help, acted like an ass, and then pretended it was all a joke which he was playing... a childish waste of time.

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    Good point Two Listen...I think he has a way of thanking his own posts! No, in reality maybe it should be "No one likes a smart ass that doesn't know what he's talking about"? But that sounds mean. Actually Tristan does crack wise occasionally but he has a masterful way of doing it that gets exactly to the point and is actually of great benefit. Wish I were so clever...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two Listen View Post
    does having a style improve chances at getting certain jobs?
    Explain.
    May I humbly confess that I actually played a part in contributing to that high number of Thanks that he has. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two Listen View Post
    does having a style improve chances at getting certain jobs?

    Explain.
    In my defense, roughly 48% of those thanks are for non-smartassery.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewHD View Post
    Heh, I should be the one who is offended here. I'm new, but that doesn't mean I'm stupid. You all should have realized right away that such a comment about "Disney being a safe bet" is just silly-willy.

    You all think I'm naive! Thanks alot.


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    ...except that I've heard otherwise intelligent people actually say it, or close enough not to matter.

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    Its Disney/Pixar, Blizzard, Nickelodeon, FUNimation, Cartoon Network, Marvel, DC, Dark Horse.

    We all have big dreams don't we? I'll just work at ALL of these.

    like P sage said, it depends on what you want to do. If you want to work in a team oriented environment. Like being a concept artist, an animator, a comic book artist. You need to be adaptable (maybe have a home style but show that you can do other things). For work that's more a one man show on the artistic end then you might do better with a specific style of your own.

    One job in a team environment that might benefit from you having a style, is as an Art Director. Who ever it was that decided the "Blizzard" look had to have everyone else adhere to the style he had created. Although I dislike that style now.

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    looking at john and joe kinda brought tears to my eyes. I revere these guys, hope their still alive, frazetta is gone, never gonna get to meet him.

    They and others are my idols. Not in a way i want to copy their stuff, but in the way that i consider them the fathers of what we are doing today.

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    Both are alive and kicking. That was '07. Kubert and Romita (kubert was at the JJ center in NY) at the last 'con. I wanted to go but life stopped me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpwacker View Post
    Am I the only one whose neck tingled watching that Disney video? Is that sad?

    The beast is a masterpiece in character design imo.
    Absolutely. I seriously felt a kind of light euphoria, partially because of the beauty of their art and also the old nostalgia-warm-fuzzies because Beauty and the Beast was one of the cartoons from my childhood (amongst many others e.g. Lion King, The Brave Little Toaster, Fival Goes West, Aladdin, I need to stop because I'm sure this thing has a character limit)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpwacker View Post
    Am I the only one whose neck tingled watching that Disney video? Is that sad?
    IDK, my neck kinda tingled when I accidentally mentally combined this thread with another and came up with "Does having a style improve chances of getting laid?".

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    I think people who are versatile, who can adapt and change their style to suit whatever, has a much better chance at getting a good job than someone who can only do one style, even if it's realistic.

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    sure it will. My dad is a terrific artist, but he can't draw people to save his life. He has designed tattoos and much more of all different things, animals, koi fish, band logos/symbols just people aren't his thing.

    So you could probably apply for a company to be a "weapons" graphic designer and nothing else if thats what you enjoyed the most

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmai View Post
    So you could probably apply for a company to be a "weapons" graphic designer and nothing else if thats what you enjoyed the most
    ENNNNggggnnnhhhhhh (buzzer sound). Have you ever seen a job description where a company is looking for something so specific?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffX99 View Post
    ENNNNggggnnnhhhhhh (buzzer sound). Have you ever seen a job description where a company is looking for something so specific?
    Maybe at a weapons company.


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