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    thats awsome makes me want to put some of my tradtional stuff up

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    Very nice charcoal. I especially like the attention to detail that the feet show. Nice use of line and shadow there. Seems a little dark to me...I think the light areas could be a little lighter...hell, I know it's cliche, but I think it could use a bit more contrast. I've just started doing charcoal drawings in life drawing and I had a drawing that looked like this at one point and my teacher told me to push the contrast a bit more and it really helped. (woo, take a breath there, sonny...)

    Anyways, I do like the rendering.

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    :cool:

    oh man i just got reminded that i got to learn some anatomy and do some life drawing

    that shit is goood!
    keep posting

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    Really nice.. I especially like the sharpness of the cast shadow at her back and I gottah love the feet..

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    I like this a lot, shading is superb. Only thing that bugs me is that the left arm seems kinda short, though maybe that's just me. Still, very cool.

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    beautiful

    this reminds me of needing to take some life drawing classes. im horribly impaired when it comes to drawing the human form.
    let your friend know hes got it down. im having one of those "wish i'd done that" moments.
    she almost looks like she has soft wings ( or maybe im up too late!!)

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    This is great work. I too will jump on the cheese band wagon and say more contrast. As far as the length of the left arm goes it is fine. The issue with it looking too short is the fact that where it sits on the hip it kinda hides the fact that the elbow is bent which would make the arm look forshortened and appear to be too short. I dunno if that makes any sense but if you stare at the drawing long enough you will see what I mean.

    Over all good job. Makes me realize how much I am gonna miss my life drawing class after this semester is over. I won't have another one for two semesters. :mad:

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    This sucks, you suck, your friend sucks, and both of your moms suck.


    or...what they all said..

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    nice, though.. maybe it's just me... but it seems as though she is getting a little smaller as she goes down --- also her left arm (MAYBE even right but not as sure) seems a little short....

    love the way you drew this though =D


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    the supposed spontinaety (sp?) of the underdrawing really adds alot to an otherwise normally solid life drawing...

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    nicely done

    one thing: the head is HUUUGe
    and the neck may be too long


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    Some of the distortions people have pointed out often occur as a result of standing too close to the model (which can be hard to avoid in a cramped classroom or studio setting). Sometimes you also get distortions when your easel isn't set up right relative to your eyes and arm (if you are working on an easel).

    This is a very nice piece. As far as contrast, I say, "contrast schmontrast!"

    But seriously, a lot of painters say commercial artwork (and, notably, photographs) usually have too much contrast, while a lot of commercial artists think stuff like this needs more contrast. Before the late 1800's the approach to light (3d vs. 2d) in painting was very different from what it became during the 20th century. Most of the people on this site would prefer their work looking like Carvaggio or Rembrandt than Fairfield Porter or Morandi.

    It depends a lot on where the given piece is going to live in the world. I'm not one for preaching or pursuing absolutes.

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    He loved your comments, generally, though he does think it could use more contrast.

    here's on of my most favorite drawings that he's done.


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    Wowo, the lighting is beuatiful on them especialy the second one. I would have complained that these are not in the life drawing section, but they are so good, im glad they are not.

    On the first one, the left arm is way too short.


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    Very nice!
    Got anymore to show us??!

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    Originally posted by SeraphSword
    Only thing that bugs me is that the left arm seems kinda short, though maybe that's just me. Still, very cool.
    yeah i think so too.

    i like both very much, but the second one even better... maybe little less lines would improve it even further

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    why all the anonymity? these are great drawings, why didn't your bud just create a name?

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    As I said previously, it's hard to comment on work like this without knowing what the intention is. These are beautiful drawings.

    Often artists are consciously playing on the tension between the 2d surface and the illusory 3d reality was exploited. But that's not what most of the people on this site are interested in, no, they're interested in creating the illusion of 3d form and space in 2d, and I'm assuming that's a goal here too.

    So with that I will say that, beautiful though this drawing is, it has some spots where the 3d form is unintentionally ambiguous, i.e. "flat." Some people have noted that limbs look to short - that's because they are foreSHORTened (correctly), but not reading as extending toward the viewer as much as they should.

    In this last piece, the areas where the form is ambiguous (that I see) are:

    Her right thigh and buttock (on the left side of the pic)
    Her right forearm
    Her right foot (to a limited extent)

    It's very, very nice work, though.

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    I demand to know technique and that this friend of yours start a website! I love these. I agree about the arm on the first and the contrast also, but those are small things. These drawings were very skillfully crafted. More.:cool:

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    Originally posted by Chris Beatrice
    So with that I will say that, beautiful though this drawing is, it has some spots where the 3d form is unintentionally ambiguous, i.e. "flat." Some people have noted that limbs look to short - that's because they are foreSHORTened (correctly), but not reading as extending toward the viewer as much as they should.
    I agree, and I think what is causing the ambiguity is the fact that the left elbow isn't as clear or well-defined as the left side of her body, when in fact I think it should be MORE clear and have a little higher contrast and detail in order for it to appear closer to the viewer.

    I think the same thing could be said about her feet, since they are 'supposed' to be the closest thing to us, yet they have the same level of detail and value contrast as a lot of things that should be further away.

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    Saki seriously get him on the boards, he needs to give a tutorial, that is mad charcoal talent right there.

    I am such a mechanical pencil type so seing this just blows me away.

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    danteort,
    In the second pic, compare the figure's right upper arm to her right thigh. The shapes on the upper arm curve around the arm, giving the feeling of a cylinder extending toward the viewer. On the thigh, but contrast, no such roundness happens.

    I hate to pick apart details like this, because these are a) beautiful drawings and b) not the kind of thing we usually get to see on these forums.

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    Your bud (yes you there) needs to step out of the shadows and showcase more of his work. Why not even technique ? I'm sure there are a lot of eager artists on the board that would be thrilled !:chug:

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    WOw, these are definitely some beautiful pieces to look at. Besides the proportion and flatness issues said earlier, I think it'd be nice if he varied his strokes. Right now the whole page has the really cool foggy charcoal technique but it'd be nice to see some areas that are tightened up above the rest of the image or certain areas (as they move away from the focal point) become even looser than what you have. It is an interesting technique being used to achieve that look in the charcoal, and I'm pretty curious to see how it's done!

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    Her left arm is to short. the rest is great

    My dick isn't small. Its just foreshortened
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    I can't believe how many people keep saying her left arm is too short. It's not called foreSHORTening for nothing!

    The problem of apparent shortness is being caused by the shape of the light area on that arm, just above the elbow. It's upper edge is convex, like a hill, which is fighting the arm reading as a cylinder going back in space. Imagine if you drew rings around her arm, from the shoulder all the way to the wrist. The resulting shapes (sort of like crescents, with the points sticking upwards) would make the arm read very clearly. The shapes of the lights and shadows on the arm, currently, are doing the opposite of this. This is one of those cases where the artist needs to override what he's seeing (as far as 2d shapes), to deliver what he's seeing (as far as 3d forms) one way or the other.

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    Originally posted by Chris Beatrice
    In the second pic, compare the figure's right upper arm to her right thigh. The shapes on the upper arm curve around the arm, giving the feeling of a cylinder extending toward the viewer. On the thigh, but contrast, no such roundness happens.
    Yeah I totally see that now. One thing that strikes me as a little odd is how the fingers on her right hand actually go from solid to flat.

    My teacher made a comment a couple weeks ago about one mistake a lot of people seem to make. She said that when people see dark areas, a lot of times they just throw down some charcoal/paint/etc. without having modeled the area first. Even if it's supposed to be almost completely black, there needs to be that underlying structure in order for the area to read correctly to the viewer.

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    Thanks for all of the imput. I agree that the arm does appear short. I think the problem is that I drew the lower half too short. Why I say that is because her hand does come down to the bottom of her butt, which is correct proportionally. Her legs however are a bit long.

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    hello misc, welcome to the boards. great work you got here. i look forward to seeing more. bravo.-c36

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