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    expert lessons in ruining female form!!!

    Thanks for looking spread the coconut oil and love

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    the next 10

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    Hey the studies are comin along nicely. It looks like you are studying some bridgman. I suggest studying more anatomy. Simply put, it will turn out better if you understand what's going on beneath the surface.

    Also women tend to have softer lines or none at all. your hand seems heavy. With women especially, it's all about those eyes and lips. All your eye shapes have the "oval" shape to them, regardless of the postion of the head. eyes aren't even oval to begin with.

    i think really, you're jumping the gun a little bit. Keep working on the foundations.

    Hope this helps.

    P.S. You digital piece needs more darks. it's way too washed out

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    Hey the studies are comin along nicely. It looks like you are studying some bridgman. I suggest studying more anatomy. Simply put, it will turn out better if you understand what's going on beneath the surface.

    Also women tend to have softer lines or none at all. your hand seems heavy. With women especially, it's all about those eyes and lips. All your eye shapes have the "oval" shape to them, regardless of the postion of the head. eyes aren't even oval to begin with.

    i think really, you're jumping the gun a little bit. Keep working on the foundations.

    Hope this helps.

    P.S. You digital piece needs more darks. it's way too washed out

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    Hey the studies are comin along nicely. It looks like you are studying some bridgman. I suggest studying more anatomy. Simply put, it will turn out better if you understand what's going on beneath the surface.

    Also women tend to have softer lines or none at all. your hand seems heavy. With women especially, it's all about those eyes and lips. All your eye shapes have the "oval" shape to them, regardless of the postion of the head. eyes aren't even oval to begin with.

    i think really, you're jumping the gun a little bit. Keep working on the foundations.

    Hope this helps.

    P.S. You digital piece needs more darks. it's way too washed out

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    Hey the studies are comin along nicely. It looks like you are studying some bridgman. I suggest studying more anatomy. Simply put, it will turn out better if you understand what's going on beneath the surface.

    Also women tend to have softer lines or none at all. your hand seems heavy. With women especially, it's all about those eyes and lips. All your eye shapes have the "oval" shape to them, regardless of the postion of the head. eyes aren't even oval to begin with.

    i think really, you're jumping the gun a little bit. Keep working on the foundations.

    Hope this helps.

    P.S. You digital piece needs more darks. it's way too washed out

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    This is me working on the foundations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapil View Post
    Hey the studies are comin along nicely. It looks like you are studying some bridgman. I suggest studying more anatomy. Simply put, it will turn out better if you understand what's going on beneath the surface.

    Also women tend to have softer lines or none at all. your hand seems heavy. With women especially, it's all about those eyes and lips. All your eye shapes have the "oval" shape to them, regardless of the postion of the head. eyes aren't even oval to begin with.

    i think really, you're jumping the gun a little bit. Keep working on the foundations.

    Hope this helps.

    P.S. You digital piece needs more darks. it's way too washed out
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    Which pictures have oval eyes? I've been drawing for 25 years and oval eyes haven't been a part of that for the last 15 or more.. On the values.. I'm working on speed at the moment. The values are understated as part of what I'm learning from the Zhang Lu video.. you should check it out some time.

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    can't tell if this is duplicate or not.. the servers are screwy today..
    anyway.. down to 15 minutes.. may have to start batching these..

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    Just over an hour.. but.. it's more than a face.. about 20 minutes of that was trying to figure out how to use selections in Painter..

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    a nun!

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    yo 4ton!

    great studies here. I felt the exact same way after watching the female heads vid. make sure you watch your edges and don't be afraid to push those values!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourTonMantis View Post
    yo 4ton!

    great studies here. I felt the exact same way after watching the female heads vid. make sure you watch your edges and don't be afraid to push those values!
    Hey thanks for the feedback! I was painting at 10% opacity with brush pressure.. that was sort of for the effect that they talk about in the video though.. where on the edges I just run that stroke a number of times. This is a particularly tricky thing for me since edges were already a weak point.

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    This one's not supposed to be pretty.. I was going for edge control and to see how much I was able to reproduce without reference of any kind. If anything I'm pleased that it is distinguishable as a female
    EDIT: I just realized when I do "save for web" it's adding graininess which isn't helping my already blurry pieces :/

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    Nice studies !

    I think you should focus first at getting proportions correctly, and after that on getting volumes with good shading. This book helped me allot.

    Keep working !

    To be or not to be , this is the question !

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    Thanks for the reply.. the point of the studies is to work on things like proportion and shading and everything.. otherwise I would be doing full on paintings/illustrations/whatever.. these are all just throwaway studies that are stepping stones to that understanding. At no point am I professing to be some kind of expert or master
    That book looks excellent, I just picked up This Book but the one you linked looks really handy as well

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    ugh... only one study and with Battle:Los Angeles opening I am afraid the studies are going to slip a bit.. anyway.. here's this terrible piece of dung that I spent too much time on.. the eyes remind me of the lizard girl in Rango..
    EDIT: yowzers.. as long as her nose is, it needs to be far wider.. I effed that up purteh bad..

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    I feel like there is a little progress here but that eyebrows are goddamn evil and I'm going to go watch a movie and try to dodge the tsunami..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4tonmantis View Post
    Thanks for the reply.. the point of the studies is to work on things like proportion and shading and everything.. otherwise I would be doing full on paintings/illustrations/whatever.. these are all just throwaway studies that are stepping stones to that understanding. At no point am I professing to be some kind of expert or master
    That book looks excellent, I just picked up This Book but the one you linked looks really handy as well
    Sure you can work on more than one thing in a study, but I feel concentrating on one or two subjects helps allot. For example the distance from the nose to the bottom of the face is way to small on most of your drawings, while the distance between the nose and the eyebrows is too long. Simple proportions like in this picture should help you to improve greatly your drawing, for long or quick drawings.

    And thanks you for your comment on my topic on head drawing.

    To be or not to be , this is the question !

    Help me drawing the head


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    PS: Sorry for my bad English
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGeek View Post
    Sure you can work on more than one thing in a study, but I feel concentrating on one or two subjects helps allot. For example the distance from the nose to the bottom of the face is way to small on most of your drawings, while the distance between the nose and the eyebrows is too long. Simple proportions like in this picture should help you to improve greatly your drawing, for long or quick drawings.

    And thanks you for your comment on my topic on head drawing.
    Thanks for your feedback

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    I've been doing tons of analog studies over the past few days along with the head studies. Some of the things I've been learning about are lost line, values, and composition as well as the use of HSV as tools in planning a piece. These are from Ryan Church, Richard Keyes, and a few others.

    After watching Battle: Los Angeles this morning, I decided to apply some of what I am learning in a story-telling kind of format and was pumped to do a kind of rescue story sort of thing. The idea here is our hero is approaching a large structure.. either a prison or a gateway or something.. my goal was to use the values to pull your eyes through the depth of the piece and guide you.. the color choices and their intensity would also be pretty key in pulling this off..

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    I took the sketch layout into painter and laid down some basic values to try and get a better sense for how this would read with color work prior to cranking saturation and adding any effects..
    I dunno.. I feel the depth but the perspective feels weak between the protagonist and the portal.. thoughts?

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    Alrighty, 3 people tell you to study perspective you should probably study perspective
    did the graphite ones then came upstairs and did the scratchboard one with no reference.

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    some post apoc for fun.
    edit.. it's funny I didn't realize how disproportionate the eyes were until I saw the picture posted...

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    color..yay.. there's no filters providing crappy texture..that's all my infantile knowledge of painter..
    edit after uploading♠ I realized a few problems.. so I went to fix them and found more.. which led to more.. anyway.. I uploaded a revised version and kept the original for comparison.

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    Sooo.. been doing perspective studies and ordered some geometric shapes and a skull for even more.. but this has me pretty confounded..
    I don't work in charcoal much to speak of so I'm unfamiliar with it's properties but here's what happened (and I realize that fundamentally the sphere is terrible)
    I layed down the basic shape and did my hatching and cross hatching for shaded areas.. then following advice from one of my books I used a cloth to blend. everything lost a bit of value which I expected, but there were several spots that lost more than others.. and likewise some spots that just wouldn't blend.. my first thought is the paper since the tooth is pretty heavy. I had planned on doing all of my still life perspective studies in charcoal but this proves a problem.. is there a special step or tool I'm missing or just try different paper?

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    another day another study

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    baaaaaag laaaaady
    EDIT: For the record.. she is that cross-eyed in the picture.. I suck but that one is mother nature or fate or whatever..

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    thought I'd try for the look on those old fashion adverts.. failed miserably but learned a lot.

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