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    NASA scientist finds evidence of alien life

    This is very cool. For the first time (I believe,) a scientist has acquired evidence of alien life forms.

    Aliens exist, and we have proof.
    That astonishingly awesome claim comes from Dr. Richard B. Hoover, an astrobiologist at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center, who says he has found conclusive evidence of alien life — fossils of bacteria found in an extremely rare class of meteorite called CI1 carbonaceous chondrites. (There are only nine such meteorites on planet Earth.)
    “I interpret it as indicating that life is more broadly distributed than restricted strictly to the planet earth,”
    Hoover discovered the fossils by breaking apart the CI1 meteorite, and analyzing the exposed rock with a scanning-electron microscope and a field emission electron-scanning microscope, which allowed him to detect any fossil remains. What he found were fossils of micro-organisms, many of which he says are strikingly similar to those found on our own planet.
    “The exciting thing is that they are in many cases recognizable and can be associated very closely with the generic species here on earth,” said Hoover. Some of the fossils, however, are quite odd. “There are some that are just very strange and don’t look like anything that I’ve been able to identify, and I’ve shown them to many other experts that have also come up stump.”
    In order to satisfy the inevitable hoard of buzz-killing skeptics, Hoover’s study and evidence were made available to his peers in the scientific community in advance of the study’s publications, giving them a chance to thoroughly dissect his findings. Comments from those who decided to sift through the evidence will be published online, alongside the study.
    “Given the controversial nature of his discovery, we have invited 100 experts and have issued a general invitation to over 5,000 scientists from the scientific community to review the paper and to offer their critical analysis,” writes Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics scientist Dr. Rudy Schild, who serves as the Journal of Cosmology’s editor-in-chief.
    Needless to say, if Hoover's conclusions are found to be accurate, the implications for human life will be staggering.
    Update: While the Journal of Cosmology says that “no other paper in the history of science has undergone such a thorough vetting,” some highly respected names in the scientific community are challenging the validity of Cosmology, and the findings of Dr. Hoover.
    “[The Journal of Cosmology] isn’t a real science journal at all,” says PZ Meyers in Science Blogs, “but is the ginned-up website of a small group of crank academics obsessed with the idea of Hoyle and Wickramasinghe that life originated in outer space and simply rained down on Earth.”
    So there you have it — this is either reality-altering news, or the work of kooks. Our hearts believe, but our brains are kind of bummed.
    What do you think?



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    Where's a link to the information?

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    bye bye religion.

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    Isn't it statistically inevitable that alien life exists? But I always figured it'd be harder to prove than just picking up a couple rocks that landed on Earth. Just make sure none of those bacteria stick to you and turn you into Venom - or even worse, a man-eating blob!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyskoa View Post
    bye bye religion.
    Doubt that; the die-hards will never believe evidence was found.

    Not very shocking news in my opinion; of course there's alien life out there. There are as many stars in the universe as there are grains of sand on the Earth, and lots of those stars have a system of planets like our own solar system. I seriously doubt that of all of those billions upon billions of planets, we're the only one to have life.

    Now if only they found an alien that was far bigger than that, -that- would be news.

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    http://io9.com/#!5777919

    Also, arsenic bacteria, y'all!

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    don't see what alien life has to do with religion

    or why anyone would possibly want to bring it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liffey View Post
    don't see what alien life has to do with religion

    or why anyone would possibly want to bring it up
    It has quite a lot to do with each other. I suppose it depends on the strictness of one's religion, though.

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    Sure is atheist in here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liffey View Post
    don't see what alien life has to do with religion

    or why anyone would possibly want to bring it up
    How about this angle:

    This evidence is to the existence of alien life what the shroud of Turin is to the existence of Jesus?

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    And watch as the thread topples...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hippl5 View Post
    Sure is atheist in here.
    Agnost . Well, sort of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squidmonk3j View Post
    How about this angle:

    This evidence is to the existence of alien life what the shroud of Turin is to the existence of Jesus?
    Huh? No one believes in Jesus because of a cloak... So are you saying that no one believes in alien life just because of this evidence? I'm not following your train of thought here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by squidmonk3j View Post
    How about this angle:

    This evidence is to the existence of alien life what the shroud of Turin is to the existence of Jesus?
    No, alien life is proof of alien life. Untestable, dried up blood on a shroud proves nothing.

    And sure is anti-theist in here you mean.

    Lhune, I can only hope is that this chips away from the mountain of ignorance that is religion.
    Maybe we'll be able to turn the mouth-breathers into useful members of society eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyskoa View Post
    No, alien life is proof of alien life. Untestable, dried up blood on a shroud proves nothing.

    And sure is anti-theist in here you mean.

    Lhune, I can only hope is that this chips away from the mountain of ignorance that is religion.
    Maybe we'll be able to turn the mouth-breathers into useful members of society eventually.

    And this is proof you lack an organ commonly found in humans that resides in the cranium.....

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    Seriously, why do people take it upon themselves to mindlessly bash people of other beliefs at every possible turn? Is a civil, respectful conversation to much to ask for? This thread doesn't even have anything to do with religion, and people still go out of their way... ugh, nevermind, I should probably just skip this thread.

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    I have a feeling that they could have found ET and you guys would be having the exact same argument.

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    Okay, let's stop fucking talking about religion, and start fucking talking about the possibility that these fossils represent a legitimate extraterrestrial lifeform, mmkay? Srsly.

    *Goes to read more articles on this*

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    I guess the reason religion is brought up in cases such as this where life was "supposedly" found (Read the blog link Liffey posted - the evidence/paper is very suspicious), is because religions tend to hark upon man as being top dog in the universe - that we're made in God's image, we're special, etc. So with the (supposed) discovery of alien life, this turns the whole cosmology of religion's ideals of man's position in the cosmos upside down.

    In anycase, my prediction for when we find REAL life in the future, the religions of the world will as first go through the phase of denial (They're not really sentient - They're demons, spawn of Satan, etc), anger (Why should they be our equals?), then acceptance (Jesus died for their sins too!). I recall the Vatican Observatory speculating that it would be interesting to find evidence of life that is free from "Original sin". Of course, a few centuries ago, speculating anything of this sort would've got you branded as a heretic and have you burned at the stake. So we've come a long way.

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    I'm sure, should that time ever come, that monotheistic religions will be able to accommodate themselves to incontrovertible proof of alien life. But this ain't it. You can't find a more hard core atheist than P.Z. Myers, and he thinks this is bullshit.


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    The significance of this discovery just serves to increase my awe over the mystery and wonder of His Creation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbi Satan View Post
    I guess the reason religion is brought up in cases such as this where life was "supposedly" found is because religions tend to hark upon man as being top dog in the universe - that we're made in God's image, we're special, etc. So with the (supposed) discovery of alien life, this turns the whole cosmology of religion's ideals of man's position in the cosmos upside down.
    This mindset has been largely abandoned since Copernicus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liffey View Post
    This mindset has been largely abandoned since Copernicus.
    Several studies have found approximately half of the US population to be creationists, the mindset is alive and well. link

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    Wow. It looks really damn cool. Can I keep it? I promise to feed and wash it, and to give it new extraterrestrial lazer beam batteries every third Tuesday.

    On a more serious note, that is quite a find. Shame that while Alien Life is Alien Life, the very fact that it's been found on a meteor that plummeted into Earth eons ago probably means that their planet isn't doing too good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liffey View Post

    To go along with the article that both Liffey and Elwell posted, here's another one. Not that it necessarily needed more debunking. It's a bit more of a detailed criticism, however.

    http://rrresearch.blogspot.com/2011/...=Google+Reader

    "Science" fail.

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    Sorry, guys, looks like it's another false alarm. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2...ver_bacter.php The publication it's in isn't even peer reviewed.

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