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    Trust me, you are getting better, and trust me you will be hitting your head against the wall many, many more times in the future.

    I'd recommend doing more personal work and really applying all the stuff you've learned recently, plus it'll make you pay attention to composition, perspective and all that.


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    Thanks for stopping by henri, and thanks for your encouraging words! I've hit my head against the wall so many times, that I've kind of gotten used to these momentary periods of depression. Now I just force myself to keep on drawing even when I don't feel like it and even if it feels like I'm learning nothing. You are absolutely right, I should do more personal stuff. Soo here's something from imagination.

    Well not really pleased with the head but hey positively thinking, I've done worse! There's something really fishy with the eyes. Also the values suck, it's just too dark overall. After I finished the painting, I tried the auto contrast to see what it would had looked like if I would had made the values less dark Anyways it was fun to do. Commets and crits are welcome as always!

    Oh and I hope you guys don't get frustrated to my momentary whining every now and then. Just kind of feel like letting it all out sometimes helps me to carry on.

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    I think the portrait looks great. For some crits - the neck is too wide, the ear looks too small and a little too high, and the lighting is rather confusing. The highlight on the nose suggests the light is coming from the front and above, but the highlight on the eyes is on the top right, and then you have a rim lighting on the left side. Also, keep in mind that highlights that follow the 2-d shape of an object (as opposed to the 3-d volume of the object) flattens the image. Just something to keep in mind!

    Also, I like the vegetable platter still life. I think the contrast is a little low on that one as well (mostly on the vegetables themselves which have a very low value range) so maybe you should try to focus specifically on your value range in future pieces.

    Keep up the good work!
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    Thanks again dierat! One can always count on such a good crits from you. So yeah I came to the conclusion that I need a lot more value studies. I also need to study the facial features more and especially their location on face. I decided that from now on I try to focus on studying mostly one thing per day instead of studying little bit of this and little bit of that. Might be better to concentrate on one thing at a time. So here's some anatomy studies made yesterday and today. I suddenly got this weird urge to study anatomy. So gotta take most out of it and study it while it lasts lol.

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    Ah anatomy.... nice practice work in your book so far. A trick I used to do is look at bodybuilders (mostly women because the male examples away from the old greats are just ridiculous). Because of the very low body fat they have, I discover what muscle is what and see it being put into dynamic motion. Helped me alot with making anatomy practice applicable to artwork.

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    I agree with Dierat, the lighting is a bit odd.

    First thing after getting the drawing down should be deciding the location of the lightsource and blocking in the unlit area either with value or with lines. You could also try to work with just 5 values, 3 in the light and 2 in the shadow. Doing studies with simplified values really helped me when I was starting out. A good rule to remember is that the lightest dark (an area not lit) should never be lighter than the the darkest light.

    Here's a quick paintover I did while waiting for a pizza. I used the liquify tool to push the face and neck back, brightened the planes facing the light and made the darks darker. Judging from the shadow of the nose, the main light source was from top left. I also softened the edges of the lips, darkened the eyeballs (they really aren't that white in real life) and tweaked the eyelids a bit.

    Hopefully some of this was useful. Keep drawing!

    edit: Jeez, 2 replies while I was typing this! :|

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    liquidjack: Hey thanks a bunch! Very nice trick indeed. I've been kind of thinking of where could I find good practise material for my studies and that sounds like a very good idea! Gotta start hunting some muscle(wo)men after I've learned more basic stuff of muscles.

    henri: Wow awesome paintover! I appreciate a lot that you got the time to do that, thanks a lot! It is also a first paintover anyone has ever made me.. sigh, I'm getting all sobby and emotional here The lightning makes a lot more sense in it. And thanks for the tips also. I just realised that I should also study the facial planes more.

    Soo I started to do these still-life studies where I set only one light source and starting to do studies with basic shapes. Most of my still-life studies are made on light coming from this and that window and sometimes from a lamp also so it can be rather confusing. I'm gonna learn these bloody values! Here are couple of first studies and some.. erm.. bones.

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    Good studies! From Loomis are my favourites, keep practice!!!

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    in2eternity: Thanks! I will!

    Here are some screenshot studies and still-life study.

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    Lovely updates ... keep up the hard work!
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    Thank you very much, shambok! I will try to keep practising very hard.

    So yesterday my husband asked me why do I always mock my own works. I kind of do that sometimes, don't I? Well since it propably doesn't look very nice to the viewer, I shall hereby try to reduce it (and concentrate on the positive sides of my learning process) . ..But just give me some time..

    Here's some anatomy. I've been thinking that it could be possible to learn to draw realistic skeleton from memory. Until this day when I realised the existence of backbone's vertebras (is that even a correct word in english?). Oh man. Well I'm still trying to learn the skeleton as much as possible and after that try to do some skeleton gestures. We'll see what happens, lol.
    And after that no more boring skeleton updates here. Oh wait after that it'll be many many boring muscle updates, muahhahaa

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    Loomis, faces from magazines, and value studies with some weirdness.

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    Oil still-life study and couple of photo studies with ref pics. The photos are from portrait-photos.org. There are some really cool photos to practise portraits. On the first one I tried to decide five different values beforehand and make it with them but didn't really work out like that. Got carried away. On the next one it worked out better. So maybe I'm finally starting to learn something (or then it was just a luck lol). I need still a loot more value studies but I think I'm starting to get the hold on locating eyes correctly Still fighting to get the resemblance correct with the ref also, lol.

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    Some faces from magazine again and some terrible photostudy. Ref photo is again from portrait-photos.org I'm not pleased with it at all, blaah. I was way lost with the values on this one and it was also one of those drawings that you just end up overdoing even though you don't have idea what you are actually doing. And the more you do the more screwed up it becomes. Well off to more practise it is.. I think tomorrow smells like anatomy day..

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    So I started going to nude model drawing classes once in a week again after the summer break, cool! We have the same model every time, but it is better than nothing! Here's some stuff from there. It feels soo different to draw croquis from alive model than from posemaniacs for example lol. Well hoping my anatomy studies will eventually some day start to pay off. I also started doing this cast foot afterwards in my drawing lessons (once a week also, after the model drawing). Hope to finish it some day. Also did some anatomy yesterday. Gosh why do I always have to write such a long chitter-chatters here by the way. I really don't talk this much in real life. Gotta learn to update with shorter texts..

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