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    Heya Palzano!

    hmmm...yeah...don't think it really sunk in that you're using a mouse. I've done it myself...but once you get a tablet you'll feel like you were drawing with a club.



    I have the first Intuos Wacom introduced years ago and it's still working GREAT. They are so well built maybe you could find a used one on e-bay etc. Never had any trouble with mine and they are compatible with every piece of software I've thrown at it.

    Otherwise there are other tablets of course...so look for pen sensitivity. Last I heard the the Bamboo is half that of the Intuos...and sensitivity is sooo important IMHO.

    Otherwise I don't' use many of the other functions much (or am unaware if I do) like tilt angle etc)

    I've not used one but a Vistablet offers good sensitivity (same as Intuos I believe...1,024 levels of sensitivity) and students can pick them up for under 100 bucks (US) so it might be an option.

    Good luck M8!!


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    post some more stuff....bitch! lol

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    LOL you demanding little hussy !! dont worry I will give you what you want soon.

    Bitch indeed LOL!!

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    It's time for you to perform again.
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    I'm gettin' drunk, with
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    Hi, thanks for dropping by my WIP thread earlier! I'm gonna see if I can't pick up that Preston Blair book. I know there are images available on Google so I'm gonna look at those too, but I thought it'd be good to actually get a hardcopy.

    Anyhow, good luck with your studies! My suggestion would be to try a few more "real life" studies to help you understand the angles of the face and body. I know I for one was thinking of perspective as something "abstract" when, in reality, it's all around us.

    Also, good work with all of the 3D modeling. I did that for a bit too. Gotta say... it really does lure you into a fall sense of security. Hehe. I'm glad to be back to working "on paper" again and actually learning how stuff works. Instead of, y'know, assuming I already know. The silly things we artists do, huh?

    Happy drawing!

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    Ok I shall explain myself a little

    its been a while since i posted anything and I appologise for that, my only defense is that I have been working on another childrens picture book, and it takes a while to condense the story down to a few lines per page. It also takes more skill than I posess to create a single image that supports the words and if necessary tels the story with out the words. You need to do this because its for early learning kids most of which either cant read yet or are just learning.

    Criteria for the images are as follows:-

    1) must tell the story as it is detailed in the words, main focus only.

    2) must be fun, but must also be aware of racial and current political correctness issues.

    3) exciting but not violent or promote aggressive behaviour in the readers ( can you belive it!!?) not likely is it really with cartoon style imagery but hey ho.

    4) simple and yet very expressive images, less is more must be the key.

    5) it is intended to go on a 12 double page spread so be aware of seam crease dont loose to much detail in the fold.

    and so it goes on and on so many rules, but hey if you wanna get in print thats what you have to do. I'm not actually there yet I am trying to break into the industry with this story. The idea is to produce a dummy book to send to publishers and agents to try and get my foot in the door somewhere.

    Feel free to knock the hell out of them as the publishers will, I am very critical of them myself and retain my objectivity at all times.

    The first set of images were generated in my 3d package to see what a little ship would look like whilst flying about, as it happened I changed the engine section as it was too complicated and busy.
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    second one is where our hero a little boy is flying around and punching the air saying yipee or something like that.
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    this one is a collection of images from the first page where he is getting into his ship.
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    a better view of the kid and his proportions, he has a smallish body and a kids slightly large head to subconciously reinforce the fact that he isnt grown yet and is a kid.
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    The next two are trying to sell the actions of pushing and pulling something big and heavy, but in a silly way for kids entertainment, They may not get it if we use the ship to do it.
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    Hands next I couldnt decide how he would hold his ships starter energy disk, or to put it another way at what stage in the action should we be at in that page.
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    More in a second ans this page has been open a while and I dont want it to die on me again!!

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    next batch

    Ok here is the second installment of my creation.

    The first image of this batch is a first view of the Space pirates who being the baddies are not very good at anything at all really and are trying to look threatening.
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    next is one of the many many attempts at creating a space pirate crew that wasnt at all scarey or threatening. Its easy to do big and scarey creatures and robots but harder to do daft and innept.
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    Poor old acptain does this a lot
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    Safety first as they say and our hero puts on his seatbelt before he sets off
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    I did this because I love the Ardman Animation Studios "Wallace and Grommit" thingies with the modelling clay stuff, anyhow as I couldnt blow anything up I went for the baseball bat to get rid of a troublesome bit of space debris.
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    That will do for now I think, give me some thoughts and feedback please!!

    thanks mateys, all the best to you

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    I know why the ol' captain keeps doing the facepalm.
    Cause he feel guilty for getting wasted the night before,
    and ruining hardly the toilet seat. Your drawings are creative
    and will be very good for the little children. They will be amazed,
    I just wish you luck that some of the publisher or agent accept it.
    Then after they accept your project, you could hide some secret
    messages in your drawings and try to create a new zombie army
    from the little children, and they will listen to you only. That is a great
    master plan.Just like Joe Pesci did in Moonwalker.
    The 'Hey You 2.jpg' -s focal point is a bit off. I think that there is
    too much ship and too small people. Maybe the pirates should be on
    the center of the drawing. Either way, I think that I am not so good
    with children, cause they do not like huge tits and wide peaches, so
    I am pretty much useless in giving you any good advice.
    I was also asked once, to do the line work for some children
    coloring book, but after I did a few examples, the publisher
    reported me to the police, and I spent that month on
    a psychiatry, explaining that I meant nothing bad.
    Once, more I wish you all the best with this project,
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    Heeey! =) I hope you make a nice finish for the publisher =) Good luck with your book =)

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    looks good dude. I want to see some shading on that ship!

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    I wanna be a space pirate!!!! The book is lookin good so far m8!!

    On enegy-disk/hand...the third one is best IMHO...ya know less is more!

    Ciao fer now


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    Thee study on the last page is coming on well. I have a Volito, which is one step below a Bamboo Fun. Using a mouse is really hard work and even if mine crap compared to the expensive models, I can still get something out of it.

    Hope the kids are better.


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    Aw, Mr. Lightship, the little astronaut and his ship are cute! I like those simple designs!
    Maybe I know a tutorial about silhouettes and shapes, that can even help if you are not sure how to choose the right gestures.
    Here you go:
    http://characterdesignnotes.blogspot...hapes-and.html
    As for the case of the hand with the ships starter energy disk, I would choose a gesture there you can see the the disk even if you make the whole drawing black. Making stuff readable is the most important thing. Maybe even more than normal if you do a children's book.
    Exaggerating the line of action could be an idea too to give the drawings more life. here's just a quick drawing there I tried to show the astronaut standing more straight, ready to conquer the space! (but I'm not an expert for cartoon styles and childrens book, so you may have a complete different opinion on the subject and what I did is just crap)
    I even added the silhouettes of the hands and some quick sketches with my own thoughts.
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    Hi guys

    Thanks for all the suggestions and information it is very much appreciated.

    LtPlissken - Hey buddy how are you, thanks for the words of wisdom my mate, yes I know what you mean the focus does seem off, I think its because it one half of a two page spread, But I shall beef up the baddies and make them more in your face, thanks again.

    Kungfoowiz- why thanks matey and thanks for the SB visit that was nice of you.

    Diarum - thanks for the prod in the back to post some stuff mate, I get lost in what I'm doing sometimes and forget. LOl I loose hours of my life messing with my silly pictures. All the best to you matey.

    JephyrX - No problem mate if you wanna be a space Pirate send me a pic and I will put you in, be warned though they get a bath at the end of the story and washed behind the ears!! LOL well it is for kids mate. stay well dude and keep posting.

    Black Spot - Thanks for the SB visit and the information my dear, I love it when you swing by as you always seem to see to the heart of things and provide a little clarity to my tired old brain. All the best to you and Mr Spot and thanks for posting.

    Valyavande - Thanks for the suggestions my mate, very useful! I like the standing to attention pose you put up with the stronger line of action. Unfortunately it doesnt gel with the way the story goes however the next story is another matter so I shall keep him in mind if thats ok. Thanks for the hand suggestions too that was great of you to take the trouble valuable input is always welcome, thanks again.

    All the very best to you guys and thank you again.

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    Valyavande gave some good examples there for silhouette- I wanted to point out that exaggeration is another method employed by children's art for props - Don't be afraid to make the coin way bigger than you need it to be.
    On this show they have transformation disks - at 0:20 into the clip you can see them- they're bigger than a man's fist- super vibrant and glowing - can't miss em.


    I also pointed out some structural suggestions- Even with simple cartoons you want to think 3D and wrap all your lines around the form of the body- even something like caillou is a good reference to see how they use simple spheres and cylinders to create simple characters.

    Its easy to do big and scarey creatures and robots but harder to do daft and inept. - this is true for sure- when in doubt go for reference. Stephen Silver did some great designs for Kim Possible - and Cheekz has some great stuff that's not too scary.
    I'm not sure who did the designs for the Lilo and stitch Aliens -but they're good too.

    Best of luck with it looks like a fun project.

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    Wow, this sketchbook has grown! So has your skill, I can see much more control in your lines compared to when you started.

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    Hi guys

    Wowsers Rhubix! thanks for that, it was both kind and very useful, the best of crits in fact, you are as usual and absolute star! please keep coming I value the input greatly.

    Star eater - I am so glad you are back posting mate and will take as many visits as you can gve mate.

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    I think you were right on the money about what you said about some of the poses/gestures. I think that might be because I has a strong idea or what I want in some and in others it was completely made up on the spot.

    Lets see you apply some of those crits!

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    Hey pal.

    This is a long overdue gander at your sb. thanks for the insightful and thoughtful critique you game me; i hope i can at least; if not help just give you insentive is some mediocre fashion to push on and fignt the good fight.

    I really like the comp and character that you have achieved in that piece; im reading LoTR The Two Towers and i' think you have caught the personality of the creature well.

    one think i would stress is to try and apply more form to your cartoon characters; maybe look at artists like Mike Bierek. (http://mikebierek.blogspot.com/) he has some really great cartoon-esque characters; as well as bobby chiu and peeps like them.

    Also.... you also totally qualify for the "He is so epic! He's so money supermarket!!" for both your hard work and you'r efforts on the forums.

    Keep at it pal, and you'll get you'r just rewards!!

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    Hi guys

    Diarum - "Wadda ya mean apply some of those crits?" LOL, I thought I had put a good sense of movement in there with a little hint at weight shift and balance as well, are you telling me I missed the goal AGAIN!! (face palm, head desk slam!).

    Seriously though it is hard isnt it, to get the movement right and even though its stylised stuff or even cartoony you still have to sell the action and balance in the move or it just looks wrong and unconvincing. I shall work to improve more you hard task master you !! all the best pal and thanks.

    Dog-faced - Hi matey glad you stopped by for a visit, ......... though you have confused me a bit mate

    "I really like the comp and character that you have achieved in that piece; im reading LoTR The Two Towers and i' think you have caught the personality of the creature well"

    Which creature are you on about? I dont think I posted any monsters or creatures yet, LOL unless some of my drawing is really really bad !! I think you have been drinking and mixed up some threads mate, sink some for me too pal. Or even better lets get LTPlissken and sink some together!! that would be way cool!

    Thanks for the SB comments and I shall work harder to improve my paltry efforts, keep posting mate you are a rising star amongst a lot of mundane!

    stay well buddy and all the best.

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    Ha Ha, sorry mate i see what you mean. i started writing, this and had to dash off mid sentance for an hour, then got back and forgot to include the most important part of the comment (the context). I was refering to the gollum illustratiom comp; the third one down in post 153. and by creature i mean gollum. Basically the expression gives off an expression that sort of reminds me of what i pictured when hes fishing in that sacred pool to the men of gondor, and frodo calls him; that would be the sort of confused/suspicious look i'd picture hed have in the book version (in the film he has like a fish in his mouth and just looks really dull and dog like i think i can recall).

    Any ways i wish i was drunk. i'd have a better excuse for being a twit!


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    Hi matey
    That is pretty cool, that is the first evidence that I have managed to put something in a picture and someone see it as I intended if you see what I mean, LOL. Normally I drop the ball halfway through and loose my way. As I said in post 153 though it was an attempt to pull everything together in a single stream, lighting, perspective, shape and consistency etc. it was near but not right. As I look back I can see mistakes in it, but its not that bad, I kinda like it which is high praise for me.
    This Image is still proving to be beyond me at the moment but I can see improvement which is good, I just have to keep grinding I suppose. Dont worry about the being a twit thing its realy not a problem But if you are upset with yourself, rest assured that I have dropped a bollock in here so often its embarrasing, I even get sarcastic comments from Mr Elwell from time to time, so you see I can piss off more important people than you can mate, and without trying hard sometimes too LOL!!

    Stay well bud and keep posting, all the best mate

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    Hey, what's all this talk talk talk in here? Where are the pictures?! I can't read you know. Well, anyway, this stuff is great Lightship! Haha, I love the baseball bat, that's perfect. Keep it up!

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    Thanks again for the crit! nice sketchbook, I can see good improvement from your first posts. keep it up!

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    Where are you mate?
    More than a months since your last update.
    Turn it on, turn it on, aye aye!


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    Plissken has right. Cooooooooooooooooooooooooooome back! Life would be more fun with You. I like personal SBs where one may pop in and have a fun time

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    Oh for crying out loud can a Guy not work in peace around here!!?? LOL

    I have been working, and dont worry I have been keeping an eye on you to be sure you are ok. But as you are so insistant here are some 3d goodies to keep you occupied.

    A simple coffee cup
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    A construction page for a website I was working on for a builder, hey it was money dont judge me.
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    I minor sci fi environment, not very good really, but you gotta post some fails too.
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    Some texturing ona steel chain.
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    And finaly a scene from the original "TRON" movie because I remember when it first came out and I was totally blown away by it, thought it was brilliant and still do, mainly because I am old and a bit sad!!
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    Can I go back to work now please LOL I have loads to do and I'm not getting through it, worst thing is that because its a book I cant post much of it as there may be copyright problems.

    all the very best my dear and learned mateys!! I will post you something else soon.

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    I knew it, I knew it, you have surprised us in a very
    emotional and gentle fashion. You were a 3D guru all
    the way, and you were hiding that from us all the time.
    The website that you are working for, is going to shine
    as the brightest star on the sky. A moon walking Cadillac
    will serve you as a transporter for your pride.
    The minor sci fi environment, puts us back right into the
    year of 1979, when Alien was conceived. I can feel
    the shiver running around the back of my neck. That
    is a very scary environment, something will run down
    pretty quickly there, and will mangle our back sides.
    TRON is hot. Should I say more? It is hot. We are all
    speechless now, you represented the blue color in another
    dimension. Radicchio will fly against the window now. Hard.
    Yes, you can go back to work, you have our blessings.
    You are special, you are like the one, when they say
    that there can be only one. A true heroic work my friend.
    Keep it on like this. You just keep it on. I just carved some
    magic words into my garden pine tree, and your name below it.


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    Come! come now!

    Thers no need for that mate, these are not that good and the TRON one is not really representative of the film it has numerous and glaring issues with the models that I will fix one of these days.

    Like I said at the begining of the SB I am constantly experimenting and otherwise messing around as I constantly feel like a square peg trying to fit in a round hole. I have no idea if the stuff I do is good or not, all I expect from it is for it to make me happy, which it does most of the time.
    I do hope that the Kids book will be good enough to get published which would be way cool, but if not It still puts a massive smile on my face to play with it.

    The builders Website is done and I used the construction page to fill and test with after I had set up the hosting contract and domain name etc it was useful while I was working on the code and flash bits just a means to an end really.

    http://wacarpentryjoinery.co.uk/index.html

    Its here if you want a look, its not particularly exciting or even interesting, it is fully collapsable and self adjusting to whatever the page size is which is always kind of cool (but not for long LOL)

    However I do thank you for your continued support and one of these days I will produce something that is worthy of your kind words mate.

    All the very best to you buddy, thanks for always bringing a smile to my ugly face and may the force be with you always (LOL).

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    more 3d because I'm still thinking about my other stuff

    Hi guys
    Here are some more tron bits and bobs, reference for the lightcycle model and the finished model from several sides, just rendered up a little more to make it smoother.
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    These last two were to help someone out in the WIP section but unfortunately they were not fit for purpose and he didnt seem to want them so I thought I may as well put them in here, LOL
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    All the best mateys, hope you like them.

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