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    More facial planes

    Hi everyone

    here we go after a few more pages of facial planes and various head shapes we have the following.

    No1 is actually a later drawing but it pulls together where I am at the moment with the sudies of the head.

    No 6 in interesting as I was wondering how some of the planes change with differing expressions

    No2 is just crap but it was practice and I accept my fails! LOL

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    Will post again very soon, thanks for calling in.
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    Hi there, you helped me out in the crit section of the forums so I thought I should return the favour by taking a look at your sketchbook
    If I had to crit you I would say that while it's good your lines are solid and confident, they might be just a little too hard (I'm the total opposite by the way; feathery lines all over the shop) and I think you want to spend a little more time on your shading, at the moment it seems too scratchy (probably the result of that slightly heavy hand?), from looking at all three pages of work, I can say that you are definitely improving.
    good luck and keep drawing

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    playtime

    Hi guys I got fed up of studying all my books and thought I would play a while.

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    Thanks for dropping by and Im sorry about the helm I know its wonky, but hey its just playtime.
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    Strato pretty much said it all, to paraphrase another great teacher: "...your eyes may deceive you..."

    Glad you are updating again.

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    Hey mate, good to see you're working on headplanes. I've been doing them recently and they definitely help.
    One thing about open mouths, isn't the jaw like a hinge? In number 6 it looks a bit like he's popped his jaw out, I'm not sure, but he might have an overbite if he closed his mouth.
    Have a go drawing a skeleton from the side a few times, but move the bottom jaw in each drawing.
    Now, I tried to redline the shouting guy but I derped it up pretty baddly as I'm using a touchpad. Hope you see what I mean though.

    KEEP IN MIND I'm a begginer myself! I'm sure someone better will come round and, spurred on by the bad advice I have given, will most likely swoop in with a better explanation and redline. xD

    Anyways, that said, good work so far so keep it up!
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    Indeed, that helmet doesn't look round... And the man has huge eyes. I really don't like to criticize what I can't do either but the beard is just some lines, without showing form and white between the lines, it looks strange next to the better drawn face (I have this problem when I draw hair... my face and hair drawing skills are very different. hair is tricky, don't follow rules as well as faces).

    The front view face looks a bit badly proportioned because the forehead is small (well such people do exist) and you drew hair where the skull is. Hair and even clothes should be drawn showing their width. There are people with small forehead but I tend to think they need a massive jaw to
    And the skull doesn't look like a sphere at the top and side either. The sides of the sphere are missing, well the top can be different, humans has variety at it too.

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    Ha ha ha ha thanks guys you are all stars and hero's for the day!

    I genuinely appreciate all the help and advice I can get keep it coming please I need it all! No really I do.

    I hold my pencil wrong I talk bollocks and draw for shite. My only good point is that I can drink like a fish and stay upright (well its kind of a skill).

    all the very best to you guys and thanks again
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    Famous people part one

    A face planes work up on MR HILTER (see monty python), I found this reference painting and thought his face looked rather interesting, so I interpreted it my way, as you all know this is crap artist speak for I tried to copy it but cocked it up rather!! LOL

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    Then Mr Hilter

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    I am actualy reasonably happy with this one as I inadvertantly changed his expression but I think i got the rendering on his clothes somewhere near, In my opinion of course, which is usually wrong but hey ho whats a guy to do. LOL

    all the best
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    Nice reference...

    Hm, about yours. The face is skewed, the inner eye corners (and many other places) need a deeper shadow. Individual eyelashes aren't needed at all. The mouth is outlined, reality isn't like this. But I don't know what could I say that would actually help...

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    You already Did help my mate!! you pointed out the bits that are rubish and need doing again, so I shall do him again, and again etc etc until I get a good one.

    Cheers mate, see you soon
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    Mr Hilter (reprise)

    I think I need a new reference by the looks of these two attempts I am not observing them and understanding the planes in his face, I am putting a rather arrogant sneer on this one and a guilty look on the first. I am putting my feelings and impressions of the man in this, Oooops LOL!

    I shall find another interesting face and come back to him later with a clear head and with more self discipline.

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    Yeah, you're getting on the right track. Even if you feel like you're not really observing well enough yet, this is probably your best work yet in terms of observational skills. That right eye especially shows a lot of "correct" observation. All I can say is do more, and really consider doing some blind contours. It won't be fun, but it'll give you a big boost in your observation skills.

    That being said, yeah, time to get a new reference. This one isn't that good to begin with anyway.

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    The lady in #51 do look surprised, and you did a great job.
    She saw someone coming at her with a big mallet, and her
    face will be turned into a pie in any second from now. I just
    see Loomis face turns to grey when he sees his grandmother
    all over the place. Pizza will be for dinner after the massacre.
    James Gurney and Walt Stanchfield are both my great friends,
    we grill at regular base, and I have to tell you that you did a good
    job on those faces, you just watch a bit for the proportions and
    try to work more on your shading.
    The reference face in #59 is a bit scary and please do not watch it
    too long, cause it will make you have nightmares. It has something
    really morbid in the look of that sculpture or whatever it is.
    Anyway you did a nice copy of it, and I like it.
    Hitler frightens me also, he got a strange look in his eyes, he just
    saw something in a rosebush, but he do not know what it is.
    Brutal rape scene can follow here. Generally you tend to draw faces
    flat, and objects flat, but you will learn to do a 3D style in no time.
    I was also struggling with flatness earlier. Now it is a bit easier.
    I change my socks and take my pills on a regular basis, and nothing
    can go wrong. You are a magnificent artist already, you just imagine,
    what it will be from a few years from now. I will try to get your autograph.

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    Gen R. E. Lee (retired)

    Lt.Plissken I already want your autograph mate, you are a star and your advice is both encouragement and criticism and I thank you for it.

    Thats enough grovelling for now I found a betterface to draw, I thought but its old and a bit washed out and I had to improvise so sorry in advance to any relatives of fans of Gen Robert E. Lee

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    And now the drawing, I think I referenced his facial planes right but Im not sure, like I said the picture is a little on the bright side and hides some detail. But that was the challenge, to get it somewhere near without too much reference.

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    Ok thanks for watching children now you can all kick the crap out of the old guy, and thanks in advance for any crits offered
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    hello LS
    thats an awesome photo. i missed the name first around so guessed it was u.s.grant. sorry im a brit and my history's rubbish!!
    youve almost got him. i scribbled on his eyes a bit, see what you think. i made him more hang dog thant he reality; in the photo theres still a fierce defiance in those old eyes.
    i really recommend flipping the page in photoshop to get a handle on things, and also getting (if you dont have one) a graphics pad. i got one for xmas and its totally life changing. no more fear...
    ps thankyou for your message in my SB, i was really touched!
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