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    Nice to see some more studies in here. Political correctness, who cares when you're having fun? ;P

    Those 3D images... is it possible to somehow make the water look more diverse? Right now it looks very static since it's repeating the same shapes over and over...

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    Hi guys

    Here is a real world scenario for you to think on, How would you turn these guys from the flat-ish state that they are in at the moment into more beleivable people and yet retain the style of the characters with the silly hair etc.
    I had to come up with an educational game interface that will engage with the little kids this is aimed at (3 - 9yr olds). With this is mind I had to produce some guys that could talk and lead the kids around the interface if they were stuck (3 - 5 yr olds cant read - normally) so there was the challenge.

    This is it so far and if anyone has an input then feel free to fire away.

    here is an explanation of the pics,

    1) the jumble family as they are at the moment

    2) Concept for jack the Boy from sketch to character

    3) Concept for Jemima the Girl from scetch to character

    4) The girls character with the different shapes of the mouth for lip syc with the actors voices as they to the instructional voice overs.

    5) The chalkboard (politically incorrect to call it a blackboard - apparently (sigh!)) this had to be manipulated to show signs of previous use or the scene looked too false and the kids didnt buy into it.

    6) completed sample of the interface where the kids lip synced and pointed at the various bits as you moved the mouse pointer over them.

    there you go a real life scenario, that is still ongoing from a code and design point of view.


    I can really use some opinion on this but bear in mind the age group its aimed at, thanks

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    Political correctness? I don't quite get what was the teacher's problem... I like the end result

    The second pic in #89 looks good, I think 3d can help a lot when you wish to do some indoor enviro with a lighting it's hard to figure out by yourself... I plan to deepen my very loose bond with 3d programs but it didn't happened this far.

    The one in #91 is strange, I'd paint over it to look more a painting. The whole thing is like a not too good screenshot from a 3d game, the composition could be much better.
    {I have a very low tolerance for mixing 3d and painting, you know, and I always found the early 3d games extremely ugly, especially compared to the beautiful 2.5d ones. I preferred artistic drawings over true 3d. Very simple 3d works has an unnatural feel to me too, I think boring textures has a big factor in it.}

    I won't comment the new ones (oh it brings back memories... I usually did stuff for children, even animation for 1-3 year olds because I was the Flash programmer... It was programmed and I don't know if the babies in front of the TV watched it or not...) but I'm quite sure someone need to get hit with a blackboard in a political incorrect way.

    Sorry for my English, I have a feeling it's worse than usual.

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    I am inclined to agree 3d has its place in sorting out environments and helping with lighting and such, post 91 was a good experiment though it did teach me a lot about how to do it and what was right for me.

    Memories of programing for kids eh, thats what this is for and in flash too, wow who would have thought you were stuck on that path too LOL. I dont mind educational stuff to help kids school I really think good multimedia has a place, But I HATE! lazy programming and lazy design.
    When i was researching this project I found it was incredible how many childrens games wrote instructions into the game!! whats the point the damn kids dont start reading until they are five years old and dont get proficient at it until a long time after! AAAAARGH !!

    Any way moving on the political correctness issue was a seven year old running around with a GUN!! oooooh look out he has an imaginary weapon in his picture eeeeeek! what are we to do? I tell you political correctness is tying people in knots for no reason 95% of people really dont give a crap about it at all.

    Hmmm I'm preaching so I am going offline for a bit, LOL all the best my mate.

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    I liked the un-PC picture.

    With the Jumbles, I'd lose a finger - most cartoon characters only have 3 and it's enough to get the gesture over. If you're going to simplify the face and body, simplify the hands too.


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    Hi Lightship!

    That 3D stuff is really nice! Haha, I love the picture of your son with the gun! That's great! And those heads were really coming along nicely too, you're definitely making progress. Your comments in the critique center have also been particularly good lately, thanks for that, I get a bit harsh sometimes.

    Keep it up and all the best to you pal.

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    3D designs on the previous page are totally outstanding.
    My favorites are the space ship and the flying island, with
    a nicely rendered water in it. You are turned the heat up
    right away man, and these are very nice improvement steps.
    Turning reality into digitality is just a major success for you.
    You just gathered enough eXperience to get to another level.
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    hey lightship. mrs mcgoodies tasty crunchy bics! love the sb.

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    Hello Lightship, thank you for your visit today.
    I see sine loomis heads on your 3rd page. And some other head studies.
    In my opinion you concentrate to much on making the lines nice and tidy, and you think of the final aspect more. Go dirty, construct in those lines, makes shapes and think 3d. Work on top of those! Work fast and work a lot, do many many of these. With practice you'll get the tidier and better.

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    What's up matey?
    Don't you leave us now,
    start creating something exquisite.
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    Just as Plissken said.
    Even I wasn't away for soooooooooo long.
    We are waiting for you.

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    sorry guys

    I have been working away on some other stuff and sorting family issues, Dont worry I will post some more rubbish soon I promise.

    Thanks for the kind words my mateys.

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    Studies in light and sources

    I have been reading James Gurneys "colour and light" rather a lot of late and trying to get my head around all the various light sources that you get in an image.
    I have been studying all kinds of images, and refering to the book to work out what I am looking at but I have to say that most of all I have enjoyed looking at Frank Frazetta's work. I am a huge fan already but when you actually get down and look and study them blimey they are detailed and bloody good too.

    Take a look at This study of the Egyptian queen.

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    The light comes in and hits the pillar which is obvious, but there is a reflection on the wall to the right where it curves, variations on each of the steps where the column is stood and a vague light source on the floor near the big cat. Ther are odd reflections on items in the room as you would expect too but he has even lit up the carvings on the pillar and the steps, brilliant isnt it!?

    I did a copy and put some more reflective objects on the floor and took away people and animals just to try and see if I got all the lights and sources,Feel free to point out anything I missed

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    Gesture experiments

    Ok before anyone tells me about his anatomy !! PLEASE DONT!! Its not meant to be an anatomy drawing this as a gesture experiment and i am trying to convey the impression that he is in motion cutting the wheat/ grass or whatever it is.

    What i want to know is does he look like he is scything wheat or has he slipped a disc in his back!?

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    Comments on his actins please.

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    A bit silly, but there you go

    Halloween is nearby so I did a bit of the preston Blair stuff and thought youd like a witch.

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    But remember there is nothing for free, there is no such thing as a free lunch for you there is always a catch.

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    And all that was left was bones for the ravens to clean.

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    An odd mix of things bit then again I am in rather an odd mood just of late, all the best to you my friends.

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    another gesture drawing

    Ok here is another one its just the gesture I'm after here he is supposed to be an angry guy shouting a battle cry or otherwise telling someone to go away using rude language!!

    Again I am not interested in anatomy mistakes, just the gesture is he coming across as an angry dude with weapons, comments appreciated thanks

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    playing at perspective

    Its been a while since I did any perspective work and thought I had better put pencils to paper and remind myself how to do this and not rely too much on a 3D package to work it all out for me so here we go!

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    Yikes theres a lesson for me eh!? dont rely on the 3d software do it yourself as well, the speed is an advantage but if you need to fix it, you had better know how it works. I had better go off and do a load more and post something good for a change this is bad!!

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    Hey! He's back!

    Lookin good mate! That last one with the stone wall, definitely getting the light source thing down, nice! One nitpick, the triangular shadow on the left is really dark compared to the others.

    And the guy with the scythe—it's generally better to show the extremes of an action: either pulled all the way back, or the end of the swing. Right now it looks like he's right in the middle. Also, he might (?) be holding his arms up a bit high; you don't want to get fatigued when you're haying by hand!

    Keep it up!

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    Ha ha ha yes the triangle is much darker because
    A) used the wrong pencil,
    B) Cocked up the perspective in that corner.
    C) All of the above.

    answer is "C" thanks for playing ha ha ha, I just hought Oh go on throw something together whilst you are doing nothing. And bloody hell I was struggling. Like I said in the post I've go too reliant on my 3d stuff to set things out for me, Got lazy didnt I!? theres a lesson for me.

    The guy with the scythe, hmmmm yes I kinda know where you are coming from but I am trying the frazetta angle on action and trying to yet the viewer to finish it off in their minds eye. Hee hee hee on reflection I guess its back to the drawing board on this one. I will do him again in several stages and see if it will go through in a cohesive fashion. Might even animate it and see if it works.

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    Hey lightship Rad perspective study for one. I totally forgot about them so guess I need to do them to. hahahah anyway keep it up

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    Hey, you are back! You seems pretty enthusiastic Nice studies.
    The man with the scythe (awww I LOVE scythes, I few years ago I've founded a C64 demoscene group named "Lazer Scythe"... we never did anything though)... The ribcage and pelvis is a flat shape, boxes or other 3d things would show better the gesture of the torso. The other parts looks okay.
    Why of course, I always love a witch! I drew one today myself, I'll upload it later. I love interesting faces and a slightly creepy witch mug is a great example of an interesting face You gave her a fitting gesture too.

    The angry man has a strange left (our right) arm. I can't see it as a proper round arm... Not a very helpful comment but I can't explain it better. His legs are tubes attached too high on his torso.

    The perspective/enviro wall pic is nice.

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    Thanks for stopping by my SB. Seeing people check my work out always encourages me.

    I like what you're doing here, some good stuff. I don't really have any advice as I'm also just starting out but just try to push more and draw every day. It's hard work, but it will pay off.

    Good luck and keep those perspective studies going

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    I do not know, maybe you have watched the movie 'Fight Club'
    with Brad Pitt and Edward Norton. One of my top favorites, I watched
    it even the night before I went to the army. So there is a scene when
    Edward asks Brad, or Brad asks Edward, I am not sure, but the question
    was like, who would you like to fight the most on the planet. So, if
    they asked me that question, my answer would be Frank Frazetta.
    Shame that he is dead, cause I would like to knock his teeth out
    or bust his skull. Just in an MMA style, pure professional an not in an
    emotional style. Just a thought anyway.
    Blair Witch is great, and the studies, I like them.
    What I most like that you are all rounded, doing
    all kind of drawings. Hope to meet you in the jungle
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    The action works, but it looks as it's a tough patch he's hit.

    When in doubt cover errors with foliage or hair. Mega tip from someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. Good for you learning perspective traditionally. It will stand you in good stead.


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    Many thanks one and all, all comments are gratefully recieved.

    Thanks Black Spot, I had to go back to the perspective work because I was trying to help out a guy in the WIP section and couldnt figure out for the life in me where he had gone wrong. Thats when I discovered that I was using the 3d thing too much and letting it do all the thinking for me, yikes that was a scary thought. So I thought I had better re-visit and do some more as a self induced crash course, ha ha ha.

    LtPlissken, Hi metey thanks for swinging by, you have confused me a bit there are you a frazetta fan or shall I not mention him when you are in the house mate? I got a bit scared and reached for the gun when you said you wanted to beat the crap out of him I thought I might be next!! ha ha ha ha

    shiNIN, thanks for the comments my mate you are always on the ball for me and I really do appreciate it, many thanks

    Draken, you are quite welcome matey it was fun to look around your Sb, the studies are paying off mate keep it coming.

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    Hey dude,

    thanks for the comments on my sb - I like the perspective practice you're doing, and the fact that you are taking the time to analyze the lighting in that Egyptian princess piece.

    Are you by any chance going into 3D modeling? Those children's game designs look like they are 3D models almost.

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    That raven is looking rather nice. Maybe give it a some very high highlights on otherwise very black wings, so it looks like it has a nice sheen.
    I loved Blair Witch too; Fight Club was awesome if you were an adolescent boy when it came out (I was) but blowing up skyscrapers in the financial district doesnt seem like such a fun plan any more.. Blair Witch though, electrifying...I thought the bit where she wakes up and finds the little present left by the witch, and she knows shit is real, that was amazing.



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    Hi Saramel

    In answer to your question no I'm not planning to go into 3d work, its just something that I love playing with. I got into 3d way way back when you just got odd bits here and there in films like the original "Tron" and "The Last Starfighter" now I will be the first to admit that these films are not the best ever made but!! they were ground breaking for the day.
    Since then I have been playing at it, and playing at animation, but it comes in handy for some of the web work that I do and it keeps me happy.

    My main aim is to break into the childrens illustration market and do childrens book illustration work, because I have kids and indeed am one deep inside!! ha ha ha ha

    ok I'll stop boring you now, but you did ask all the best my mate

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    Some good studies in here and I like seeing your studies in 3d modelling too.
    One thing if you havent already done it, study some loomis for anatomy to improve your figures, he helps you create figures not only with their structure(anatomy etc) but he talks about the balance point in the pose and how to make them look natural/plausible

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    Back by popular request

    Okay here we go He's back after such a massive amounts of requests, give a big Concept arts welcome to Andrew loomis and some sketches from his book "Figure drawing for all its worth" and its worth mentioning sports fans that this book is back on sale right now from Titan books.

    (pause) ........Oh! They're a bit crap Andrew, I thought you were good?

    (sound of a gunshot!) up yours dude!

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    MOre later as the story develops and back to Bob in the studio!............

    A great kind hearted lumbering bullock



    http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=209918 = my Sketchbook
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