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    THUNDERDOME ROUND 4 DISCUSSION:TERMINATOR 3 conceptart vs eatpoo!

    THUNDERDOME 4: TERMINATOR 3 CONTEST!!! (November 30th, 2002 until December 31st, 2002)
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    hey all...

    this months contest for thunderdome is a big one! Here is the deal!

    DO YOU HAVE THE INSPIRATION TO PAINT THE BEST TERMINATOR ILLUSTRATION ANYONE HAS EVER SEEN?

    The contest is simple...make a painting of the TERMINATOR...it can be just him..it can be the world..it can be action oriented or just a fantastic illustration. Anything you want...it just has to be the terminator and OR the terminator world.

    If you could make any painting you wanted of the terminator what would you do? Would it be a portrait movie poster? Would it be a battle illustration? you decide! anything goes.

    DO NOT use any copyrighted material in your image...you should use the stuff available as resource but this image needs to be new and entirely your own. Can your image embody what it is that the terminator and the terminator world is about?

    We hope so.

    here are some words from the terminator people about the project...

    "We are looking for your version of the the Terminator universe rendered in an image, a flash animation, desktops, or icons. Anything relating to the Terminator universe is fair game: your version of the Terminator story,
    alternate timelines, TX concept art (the TX is the Terminatrix in T3), Terminator drawings/animations/models, skynet visualizations and so on. Feel free to think out of the box and do your thing.

    A few unavoidable rules: No copyrighted materials may be used (i.e. you haveto generate all content yourself). No porn or killing pets (we must abide by
    MPAA rules). All artists will have to digitally sign a legal agreement with C-2 PICTURES (the Production Company producing the film) that gives them the
    right to display/use the work and protects the Terminator brand (ie you can't start licensing Terminator t-shirts with your artwork). You will be able to use the artwork for promotional purposes. Obviously any featured
    piece on our site will be exposed to a worldwide audience of Terminator fans."


    The prize for the contest is a good one. TONS OF EXPOSURE!! winner of this contest will be included in a gallery of select professional artists on the Terminator 3 official Website. You will be able to include a short biography, your email, and links to your image in that gallery.

    The Terminator 3 website will get millions of visitors. People from all industries will see and view your work if you win. This is a great opportunity to get your work out there and to get the exposure you need on an image of your own art direction.

    The past thunderdome contests proved that we can rise to the occasion.

    The artists from eatpoo are also eligible for this contest.

    Do not let eatpoo take this prize from conceptart.org!

    If you are an eatpoo.com artist...We dare you to try!

    contest DEADLINE is JAN 1 2003
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    Lets get it on!



    jason and android
    www.conceptart.org

    PS..they may use this image for promotional use as well. Dont be surprised if it shows up on a tshirt or elsewhere. However this contest is unpaid. You do the illustration you get the exposure that you need to get your work seen. your name, email address, a short biography, a short description of the piece, a url to your site, and the actual piece/pieces of artwork will be on the site. This information will always be displayed with the artwork.

    This is the kind of thing that can and may get you freelance work in the future. It is also the kind of thing that people all over the world will see.

    you may use your image for promotional purposes. and there is nothing cooler than seeing your image in the big light as a featured artist on terminator3.com

    android, jason, el coro, jaymz, and puddnhead are gonna be there as featured artists. JOIN US THERE!

    there is a possibility of a tie..in which both winners would recieve their own featured artist section on the site


    good luck all!


    any questions you have...let em out here.


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    Maybe you could clarify this for me..
    Are our designs of the Terminator supposed to be very similar to the way he is in the movies, or can we redesign him?

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    bah now there is legal info to worry about!
    Do we have to sign this agreement with them before we submit our entry? ...
    Where do we submit our entry, do we post them in this thread or email them to you jason or email them to someone at terminator3.com?
    I checked out terminator3.com there isn't anything about sending art to them on their website or anything about any digital agreement to sign.


    As a mans power and knowledge grows so the paths he may choose lessen more and more until he can choose only and whole what he must do.
    time to follow the trend: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...14#post1052814
    oh and heres a college buddy of mine:
    http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=75358
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    now avetice...why would you send it to terminator3.com? :mrt:

    you submit here just like with every thunderdome contest.

    they allowed me to bring another artist or two into the mix for the featured artist gallery. Rather than ask a previous winner we thought it would be a great idea to have a new winner get an opportunity for the exposure.

    do not go contacting anyone...this is an exclusive opportunity for artists here on the art forums brought to you by android and myself through our direct and professional dealings with the producer of that site.

    All images are to be posted here in this thread for submission to the contest. Judging will happen on jan 1 and the winner will be announced. the information to submit the work to their site will be passed along at that time.

    amphex: if you redesign him...would he be terminator? hahaha as long as its terminator and terminator related I dont think it matters how you portray him.

    make whatever you like...we will set the winner up with the necessary info.

    as far as legal stuff...you are getting way ahead of yourself. you best just get painting or drawing or animating. got me? I have seen the agreement and basically what it says is that you agree that they can use your image on the site.

    good luck all...lets get a great showing from our site...eatpoo will rise to the occasion. will you?


    jason

    PS..avetice..you do a nice image for the contest and Ill change your title to assistant manager!

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    The wait was worth it, Thanx Jason!

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    it's amazing to see how thunderdome contest rises and rises with every single round.
    this is just number 4 and we're doing illustration work for the terminator series! everything started with a "lumpy" gladiator design contest, remember?

    thank you all for making this possible...

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    Nice idea...but i wish a better presentation of the results...the last contests one was disappointing to me...

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    where is there more information on the terminator world? I don't see much about it on the site, just about t3. I mean where can i find some good information about the details of the terminator world, if they just drew robots that looked cool for the first movie or if they actually used anything plausible, what are the robots made out of, how do the substances in that world operate? etc etc etc

    As a mans power and knowledge grows so the paths he may choose lessen more and more until he can choose only and whole what he must do.
    time to follow the trend: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...14#post1052814
    oh and heres a college buddy of mine:
    http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=75358
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    All right this seems like its going to be fun. Okay, if we're going to paint the TERMINATOR wouldn't we have to use a picture of him as reference, but in the rules it says we can't use any copyrighted stuff. This is where I'm confused. The same thing applies for the machines and stuff, I'm not sure what I can use and what I can't. Sorry for not understanding, but I don't want to do something that isn't right, thanks.


    P.S how can i change my AVATAR. Do I need to upload my image? thanks in advance!!!

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    rent the movies to see what he looks like



    you can use any stuff as reference...but the picture created has to be your own.....you dont slave to the reference...you look at it and use it....hmmm...he has red eyes...I guess Ill make my eyes red...hmmm his robot head is sorta like a skull...I better be sure mine looks sorta like a skull.


    no trace...not cut and paste....that is what it means to NOT USE copyrighted materials. no steal....just look.


    got me?


    foz...will you be in charge of the presentation?



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    jason, what do you mean exactly with this question?

    How about "stealing" sound, when making a animation for example?

    Ok, i think we got the thing with the red eye and the skull, but i guess most of us are not sure about the look of the terminator we are supposed to paint/draw. I mean are we allowed to create a new terminator, which has got the basic elements like metal, red eye, skull etc., but looking different...like a longer head (giger's alien f.e.), big claws, integrated weapons etc...?

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    you can paint arnie...you can paint the terminator robot...it is for the terminator site in the end if you win...but it better not look like the photo from the movie poster...

    different pose...new sunglasses...same jacket if you want....

    if the eyes are red in the resource make em red...that is not stealing...that is using the resource. if the resource has a terminator standing in a junk pile and your image is of him picking up a helicopter and smashing it on a car then you didnt rip off the resource. is this making sense?

    i see the gray area you are wondering about...how to make new stuff within the boundaries of a specific world...that is the key...if i was making a charlie brown cartoon for a company that owned the license and I copied the drawings of a previous cartoon to do it then that would be copyright infrigement...however..if I were to look at charlie brown and draw charlie brown and animate him doing new things then it would be a new cartoon in the charlie brown universe.

    but if you copy the exact eyes from the picture for your own that looks just like the copyrighted pic...then I will send mcotie to your house to administer a good ass whoopin.

    you dont want that.


    deal?


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    Mcotie would die with thirst...i have NO beer in my house...it would be a bigger torture for him than for me...hmmm...i thought the "Wardog"-thing is just a title of him...i never knew that he works for ca for this cases...

    :beer: <- this is coke

    Okay, i got the point mr.manley, but what did you mean with "foz...will you be in charge of the presentation?"...

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    Sounds like a cool comp. Drawing machinary and metal is not my forte but I'll give it a go. I was thinking of maybe doing a standard battle scene or something. Hhm, all I need to do now is find reference pictures of what the damn robot looks like...
    Oh yeah, and Jason, is there only going to be one winner? I reckon when the judging is finished you should pick a couple of finalists, that is, the best terminator pics, and post em on the site and then label the winner within those ranks. By the way, who is going to do the judging? you or the t3 production company?

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    You can make a flash movie??? Cooool!

    I'm thinking of an interactive take on the scenes in the previous movies where he (T800) takes himself apart and repairs stuff... the excellent gouging-out-the-eye scene in the first movie totally made history! And the part in T2 where he rips open his wrist to show his metal wristbones...

    I hope the new movie will be more gritty hardcore and less fx-heavy... giant explosions are cool but tend to minimize the effects of other, more subtle, scenes.

    :alien1:

    What brick through yonder window breaks... ?
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    basically, it's just:
    "make an illustration for terminator 3"
    isn't it?

    why be complicated about things that are basically easy?

    doesn't
    Anything relating to the Terminator universe is fair game: your version of the Terminator story,
    alternate timelines, TX concept art (the TX is the Terminatrix in T3), Terminator drawings/animations/models, skynet visualizations and so on. Feel free to think out of the box and do your thing.
    say everything there is to know?

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    Jason : Can I get my title changed to "coolest guy EVER!" if i do a nice painting??!
    ppppppppppppellllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeassssss ssseeeeeeeeeee!!!
    =P

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    some refs...
    terminator "dawn of fate" game and teaser movies
    game art

    skynet site

    terminator related comics (with a cover or two by our favorite artist... jon foster):
    Dark Horse terminator world stuff

    this should getcha goin'...

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    this sounds fun!

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    This should be a good one.. Hope we get a ton of entries...

    peace.

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    Count Me IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    just to make sure: pictures are to be posted in this thread when finished?
    *rubs hands, ready to type image url*

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    You go Gek'. Be the first on the battle field!!

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    here you go!

    my entry


    was a bit of a flickshot... second idea, second sketch (approx. 30 minutes after having read about the contest) plus 3 days of painting.

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    Talking screw finals!

    i've been obsessed with the terminator since i was a kid.

    gek- i love the feeling of heat and despair in that picture

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    Awesome work gek, I love the tones and mood..very nice =)
    Is the cat the terminator in disguise or something? lol

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    gekitsu, wow, now THAT'S fast!

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    yeah that looks really good. Wow and ur fast too.

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    thanks all. let's hope the best fo conceptart this time.

    amphex: heh, i always was wondering if machines build strolling cats after they rule the earth...
    kinda like "do robots dream of electric sheep" or something like that.

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    little question:

    should this concept be a full-colored painting only? or monochromatic images are accepted too?

    (i dont mean B\W only maybe blue\white or smth)

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