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Now before I say anything I want to point out that I am by no means trying to draw anyone away from CA I'm just trying to get my art in more places.
So I have talked to several people about DA and they refuse to use any other art website in that category. Every time I go on their though I get this weird feeling that somethings off and although they have a flashy look to the site, the actual members seem to be either inexperienced and a bit rude or only willing to draw fan art(which as nice as fan art is, it's still not your idea so you cant do anything with it)
I guess the tone just puts me off but like I said their are some people I know that I would like to share my art with but I am just not sure I feel comfortable showing my work if it's just going to get a "nice work" every once in a while or someone who doesn't have the morals (or might now now any better) to not take my ideas.
Please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that DA is a bad site(hell I barely know anything about it) I just want to know how the community compares to the great atmosphere here at CA.
Thanks so much to anyone who was willing to listen to my babble
Oh and if I posted this in the wrong spot could you tell me where to put this thread because I honestly have no clue
To me, it's yet another art community. Another place to post my art and get exposure. I have been a member for 5 years and have like, 2700 views. LOL! Compared to some of the deviant artists... that's piddly. But, for me, one more person who sees my art that might not have seen it here or on my blog or on another site, is another person who might remember me and buy my art book one day, ya know?
I'm not as involved in the community aspect there as I am here and other forums though. I just look at pretty things and post my own stuff
@Goldilockz: Thanks, thats the first time I didn't have to reiterate what I meant on a post(I guess I'm as vague when I type as when i talk ) I think I like CA for the community aspect that you talked about, is that what most people do on DA(post their own stuff and look at things that catch their eye occasionally)?
I think there is a pretty strong community there too, and it's probably a decent one, I think I just haven't found my little corner of it haha!@Goldilockz: Thanks, thats the first time I didn't have to reiterate what I meant on a post(I guess I'm as vague when I type as when i talk ) I think I like CA for the community aspect that you talked about, is that what most people do on DA(post their own stuff and look at things that catch their eye occasionally)?
The difference I like between the two is that DA is a cool place to get some happy thoughts ("great painting" "I like your art" etc), whereas CA is where I come to get my stuff ripped up in that "We're gonna help you improve whether you like it or not" kind of way hahahahaha (along with encouragement and uplifting compliments too!). Crits on the sites seems to be quite different, but it's a good different, imho.
@Goldilockz: Good point, I hadn't thought of it like that
Looked at your work, Absolutely amazing stuff, will have to drop by later
Thanks! I still have a lot of work do to, but I'm learning more every day Your stuff is really cool and imaginative. I have a hard time coming up with stuff from imagination.
It's a kiddie site.
From a professional point of view it's a demographic access point. f you have a product you want to pitch to that market, it could be a useful promotion or distribution outpost. It can be used the same way you'd use cafemom or tumblr.
I would look seriously askance at anyone who used it to promote themselves as a professional. In fact, on the odd occasion I hire freelancers I refuse to click on DA links or look at galleries.
You don't make it big in the food business by telling everyone that you eat in Macdonalds.
@Atreides: Kinda harsh man, but I kinda got that feeling myself.
I guess my other big concern is that these "kids" are going to act like kids and not artists. Here people wont stand for others stealing work but I have no clue how willing the community might be to point out when someone has obviously stolen another person's hard work
I wonder if...
This topic at all...
might possibly could have...
Been done before.
Just to name a few.
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There are a limited number of conversation topics in the world. They all come around again. When you're young that seems tedious, but when you're a bit older it is just natural.
As has been discussed before whenever this topic comes up, you can do worse than DA. Even a number of professionals have their DA accounts. Like someone above said, it's just another avenue for marketing yourself. The more places your art will be seen by someone, the better, IMO.
Just don't expect serious crits from the people there.
Damascus57: Oh sorry man, I'm absolutely awful at looking for things
No need for the sarcasm though, I get when I messed up
@everyone: This is why I love CA, but I do need to show my stuff in more places it's just hard to figure out where to go.
Again, please excuse my "noob"ness
If you want to join, do it. But you should have a different website/blog for promoting your own work. I see DA as more of a high-fives and LOL community than one for serious promotions...
Well the reason I wanted to join was for publicity more or less but if their community if overpopulated by people who aren't serious about their art then it's not worth the extra effort. On a side note, from the few times I've been on I just cant stand all the ads everywhere and the excess of naked cartoon images with no artistic value what so ever
dA is a really large place. It's often used by foreign artists and teenagers because it's free and easy to use. So you can find some completely amazing stuff there you would have a hard time finding through people's individual sites, aaaand you can find a lot of crap or drama. What your experience there is like depends largely on who you hang out with. Much like the rest of the internet, really.
dA is a cool site. It's a nice place to host hour artwork and they have decent portfolio hosting for free. There are lots of good artists on there and it's easy to subscribe and keep up date with them. It's also pretty easy to give your art exposure if you put a little effort into it. Of course there are plenty of negative aspects to dA, but those can be avoided for the most part. Having to see a few furries on the home page is hardly the worst price you might pay considering the benefits. If your goal is to get recognized by employers it's probably not going to be your best bet, but hey, doesn't hurt to have one.
It's a site where showing a close up webcam photo of your penis is considered art. I'm not kidding.
Most professionals in the comic book and concept art field have DA accounts, so don't feel bad about using it. The fact that anyone can join means there's bound to be a lot of crap, but there's also really great stuff. Brad Rigney, Adam Hughes, Udon Crew, and Randis all have DA accounts, to name a few.
It didn't use to be so bad when I first joined.
The worst part is everyone has an opinion and it's not always constructive. I personally like drawing Godzilla, and it never fails. Someone always makes some comment like "oh, this godzilla body might be better with a Heisei head" or some other crap comment SHUT UP.
The main thing I hate about DA is like Vari said their definition of "art". They promote some hippie crap fundamentals where, "everything is art" yet I've had to flag 2-3 pieces over the year of people who have used my art, and didn't credit my site or anything.
The one thing I will say is, their copy write system they have on there has helped me legally protect some characters I have. If anything, it's a good place to upload your stuff, and give it some documentation of legal ownership.
I think Matt Frank http://www.mattfrankart.com/ was noticed on DeviantArt and that's how he got his start.
during my whole 2 years spent on DA i havent recieved a single critique ,, i only get comments like OMFG its awesome, but those people are allways the ones that i dont need comments, i dont give fuck if someone who cant draw a damn cube gives me such high praise,, that is the only thing that i hate at DA cause its really hard to get known and get serious critique..
also Randis, i know he doesnt care about popularity,neither do i but he should be totally in the same league with Artegm( spelling) and even better,, and another example is Moonxels(MOONCHILD),, the guy is an awesome artist and he isnt really known,, dont get my wrong, i am pissed just cause there are tons of people like me that are more known than guys like him and our works suck compared to his,,
i also know a lot of awesome artists that dont even have 5 watchers ,, thats why i hate DA cause everyone can join,, and its filled with tons of crap,
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@Vineris: Valid point, thanks dude.
@BlackSpot: Not to offend anyone but I hate FireFox… or maybe it hates me, or my computer So I steer clear of using it unless I absolutely have to.
@Naidy: I have no clue what Elfwood is but it sounds like it's better that way.
@Liffey:All true, but I still don't see why they don't at least try and minter some of the images that are obviously weren't made with any artistic intent if u know what I mean
@Vari: Haven't seen that before, sounds like they have a lack of people monitoring content.
@Flashback: well… yes, I kinda figured that much man
@ReneOchoNueve: Well I just was trying to spare myself of a possible unpleasant experience if I could because I have enough headaches with out more things thrown in
@Ccs: Thanks dude
@Acivicdilema: Yeah, I really hate two things when it comes to feedback, loudmouthed ass holes and cushy generic pats on the back. Of course a mixtures of the two can be great but if all you have to say is one or the other than it's best not to say anything at all
Does DA have a special Copyrights set up or is it the same for posting your work on any site? Thanks for the response dude, helped allot
@Brashen: I think I get what u mean. Thanks man.
@BanKai: Dude, I don't wana start anything but if someone comments on your work their ability doesn't matter, I'd be more upset if some master artist came on my SB and said something like that Also anyone can join this site too, so I don't see what you mean. And who are Randis and Artgem?
no you got me wrong, i mean that i ONLY receave positive coments from people which skills are years bellow me, i want to get comments like i get here,, also how is it posible that you dont know how those 2 are ? ,, just type their names on Google images and you will see xD
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