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    you've got quite a nice 'naieve' style actually. but i'm guessing you want to get more 'serious'. in which case, take some life drawing classes and post more.

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    Catish is right, life drawings are a great place to start. Also, what I found helpful was drawing some other pieces of art that inspired me when I was younger (in my case it was Magic: The Gathering artwork ). Even if you don't take my advice just don't stop posting

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    I think reading Betty Edwards' Drawing On The Left Side of The Brain and doing the exercises would benefit you big time at this stage. Good luck on your journey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltfox View Post
    landscapes/environments that I've seen posted on here, but I know absolutely nothing about perspective/colour/lighting,
    It's pretty awesome that you know this. If you KNOW your bad at perspective you can find resources to improve it. Start with simple exercises and you will improve.
    Just saying something like this makes you ahead of 50% of beginners who don't know what they're missing, or think they're awesome and don't need to learn these things!

    Anyhoo- here's a site I like with lots of figure drawing resources. http://figure-drawings.blogspot.com/...r-artists.html Spend some time doing studies on proportions. The eyes are 1/2 way down the face- you consistently put them too high.
    Just for fun, I took the face you drew and fixed the proportions. As soon as you put your features in the right place you'll see a drastic improvement very fast.

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    you could come at drawing from a variety of ways. some people come at it from their passions and inspirations. some people, mostly those in education, are taught very much from the perspective of technique. others in fine art, are taught about the importance of ideas.

    i was the same as you i guess.. i didn't want to draw something that i thought would turn out to be rubbish. so i just burried my head in books and stuff for years. it can get really boring and not fun. don't be impatient and you'll have an easier time.

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    Kind of goin off what Catish said above, even if you make a crappy drawing don't just look at it and say "Hey, that's crap." Think about what's wrong with it and compare it maybe to the original that you copied from or a drawing similar to it. Most importantly, don't stop drawing, and it's also a good idea to hold on to your old sketches. I know that I personally gain a huge boost of confidence when I look at my sketches from when I first joined CA and compare them to what I can do now.

    I also agree with Ismo's suggestion on reading Betty Edward's book. I personally never read it, but I skimmed through it a couple nights ago and agree that it is a great resource for a person at your level.

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    I think before moving on to anything else you should be focusing on simple shapes before moving on to more complex stuff like hand. Simple shapes make up everything in the world do the better grasp you have on them the easier it makes everything else. you should be doing 1000s of shapes (not joking). CLICK HERE =D This link will take you to Jeffx99's thread about Observations on drawing from life, I am sure you could get some use out of that.

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    Found another link that I am sure could help you Dpaint's drawing from Life Survival Guide also if you look in my Signature you will see a link to a lot of tutorials that should also aide you ^_^

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    Everybody loves boxes! Great to see you banging against those fundamentals! keep on trucking and you'll get there.

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    wow... I am so impressed by your excercises with the right brain, I just went straight to Amazon and bought the book!

    Keep it up, you have som every nice approaches to drawing, I really like it.

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    HaHA! You had your first breakthrough in a series of many! I believe you have made the first step into learning how to see! Keep going!

    Simple trick - try setting up a still life - two, maybe three simple shaped items (my personal favorite are bell peppers), and a strong directional light - study that and you'll be well on your way!

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    Wow see look at that your already starting to improve ever since you picked up Drawing on the Right Side of Brain. I also see improvements in your hand in the last post compared to the others. Keep up the good work and keep drawing as often as you can.

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    Excellent work on your improvement. The book is really helping you and I can't wait to see more of your work over time.

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    hey, I can see you are on the right track xD
    keep it up

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    You're improving at great leaps! The still life looks very good.

    Inspiring dedication, keep it up.

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    Excellent still. Well done!

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    looking good! Here are some pointers that will help make still lifes easier.
    1,2,3 Are about negative space. You should look at the space around the objects as much as you look at the objects themselves.
    1. Compare angles, if your doing a setup from life you can use a strait edge, digitally you can sneak in a few strait lines to compare angles.
    2. Look at the space between the object and the edge of the table, you can use it as a guide to judge the arc of the banana.
    3. looking at the space between objects will help you judge if your shapes are accurate.
    Use every sneaky shape in the whole set up and compare it to everything else.

    4. measure. You can see here that the with of the apple is about the same distance as the edge of the apple to the tip of the banana.
    The more you compare the sizes of objects and angles the more accurate your drawing will be.

    Looking forward to lots more!!

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    Wowee, I'm just echoing the others but you've made some great strides in these few posts.

    It sounds like you've got a great sense of what you need to do: checking out bridgman, loomis, etc. and you're hitting fantastic posts like Perspective 101.

    Now if you just stick with it and draw as much as possible, you will be pretty dang good in a couple years (or even sooner).

    Never stop and you'll get there!

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    You are learing very quick, if I look to your first drawing you made a big improvement.
    congratulations for that.

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    I HOPE you keep posting, because the improvements already are really awesome to see. Keep it up, because these sketchbooks that go from complete beginner are always so interesting.

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    that study's looking good

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    Nice one... just be aware that you're making an outline of the shadows - that shouldn't be there.

    Also, it helps me to see better if I put a blank paper under the thing I'm drawing. Keep it up.

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    try to make more contrast in your shadings, use different pencils mayby. I use 2h, hb, 2b

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    Good point. As a default I use HB, 4B, 8B, but I recently started using even the whole scale.

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    Well, miss. You're making some very fast improvement.

    Infact, those perspective studies are looking pretty good to me, as are the hand studies. I bet if you keep that pace up you'll have an understanding of them in no time. So, keep up the pace- and the good work.

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    Haha, I really remember me doing the same Loomis sketches! Always good to see other people doing them.
    Maybe it can help you, to flip your picture sometimes. Just hold it into the light to make the lines shine through from the back. That will give you a new view. It's just because you tend to bent the angles to the left

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltfox View Post
    Ooh you're right...I have a bad habit of making thick black outlines around everything I draw
    Dominant personality, are you?
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    To be honest, I'm not entirely sure of the exact differences between HB/2B/2H/etc pencils... I just know that some make a darker line than others xD
    Well, that's actually all the magic about it. That's all you need to know. Just use it to your advantage in your drawings. The grading of the graphite goes from 9H (hardest, lightest) to 9B (softest, darkest).

    Hardest are for protraction/channeling (is that the expression?), I was advised not to sketch with anything harder than HB, but I guess that it can change over time as well.

    Using different shades of pencils adds depth and contrast to the drawing, makes it more appealing...

    Helps you create the right drama.

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    Hello again, I really admire that dedication for studies. It'll make your improvement much faster.

    My only crit is your profiles need some work. In some of them you seem to have the hang of them, then in others you draw the nose, then leave the chin and lips flat.

    Just keep on practicing, with the rate you're working you'll be sure to get better at them soon enough.

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    Hello again, I really admire that dedication for studies. It'll make your improvement much faster.

    My only crit is your profiles need some work. In some of them you seem to have the hang of them, then in others you draw the nose, then leave the chin and lips flat.

    Just keep on practicing, with the rate you're working you'll be sure to get better at them soon enough.

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