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    Question What Is Beauty / Good Art Argument

    I'm writing a research paper for my Advanced Comp. class, and I'm using the question "What is good art / beauty?", but I fear that this question may not lead to any real new argument, but rather just a listing of opinions with no new answer.

    I'm trying to narrow this question down to a better question that would lead to a substantial answer and offer a chance for just as much research. I am curious of anyone's opinion on this question of how to narrow it down, as well as to how you would define good art / beauty?

    Also, any suggestions of good articles online about this would be useful.

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    OH GOD NOT AGAIN...!!! *flees*

    http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=198466

    ...and there are many more useless endless pointless time-devouring threads just like that. Search around. Have fun.

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    Oh, but if you're interested in, say, a scientific view of the concept of "beauty", I recall Scientific American did a series of articles on that once. http://www.scientificamerican.com/

    Just search for "beauty". (Might have to sift out some articles on the beauty industry, though.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremygordon89 View Post
    I'm writing a research paper for my Advanced Comp. class, and I'm using the question "What is good art / beauty?", but I fear that this question may not lead to any real new argument, but rather just a listing of opinions with no new answer.

    I'm trying to narrow this question down to a better question that would lead to a substantial answer and offer a chance for just as much research.
    How about "how has the concept of beauty changed over the past 100 years?"
    Or "is beauty still relevant in the fine arts?"
    You could replace "beauty" with "quality" in either of those, as well. Both of those have been popular buzzwords in art theory/criticism for the past few generations, you should have no trouble finding sources.
    as well as to how you would define good art / beauty?
    Thanks, but I'd rather eat glass, wash it down with Drano, and call it a performance piece than get involved in another one of those discussions.

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    Beauty is something you experience. For every person, there will be an unique experience and as soon as somebody tries to define it to someone else, an opinion is formed.

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    The best thing about questioning beauty and quality is that there isn't an answer. Everyone comes up with their own answer, and the variety of answers leads to a great variety of art - something for everyone. So the way to grow isn't to think of the one correct answer, but to answer it for yourself.

    Also, is this a highschool paper or a college/gradschool thesis? For a highschool level paper, I think it'd be sufficient to describe a couple different positions for/against certain art, and the pros and cons. Looking up the introduction from Gombrich's A History of Art would give you plenty of historical examples, and it's a fun, simple read.

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    Thanks so far guys, I'm getting a good idea of how to narrow it down into a more historical research sort-of paper now. And this is for a 400 level college class (my Advanced Composition class). The assignment is to write a ten-page research paper on any topic really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremygordon89 View Post
    The assignment is to write a ten-page research paper on any topic really.
    Pick a different topic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenGwenevere View Post
    OH GOD NOT AGAIN...!!! *flees*

    http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=198466

    ...and there are many more useless endless pointless time-devouring threads just like that. Search around. Have fun.

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    Perhaps you could look at history and see what people have thought was good art during different times and write about that.

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    You might want to pick up a copy of the Umberto Eco book " History of Beauty"

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    Like all philosophies which have been pursued by rigorous, thoughtful and interested people over spans of centuries, certain lines of thought have become well trod because they are fruitful and fulfill certain requirements (i.e. Following them creates beautiful things, the philosophy is self-consistent and corresponds to reality and can be implemented as engineering, etc.) And while the question "which line of thought is the correct one" is open to argument, good answers exist for all the major lines.

    It is true that an artist who is not intellectual/purely intuitive may find some aesthetic, by sheer happenstance, he finds beautiful, which he becomes attached to and develops and which becomes associated with his name. This will seem like "the next new thing." But generally the philosophy which explains why his aesthetic is beautiful will already exist. The gamut of all possible graphic gestures and all possible arrangements of these gestures that may appear on a flat surface are comprehensible... infinite in variety, but falling into finite categories of understanding.

    "Personal Aesthetics" is therefore much more a product of personality than a question of "what is beauty." With every identifiable new style that comes along, Aesthetic Philosophy does not need to be rewritten from scratch.

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    It would be cool to read an analysis of how the meaning of art has changed over time.

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    This was an interesting video http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=201043 on the topic. Takes us from the distant past to explain how certain things were considered beauty and why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
    Thanks, but I'd rather eat glass, wash it down with Drano, and call it a performance piece than get involved in another one of those discussions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffX99 View Post
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    True. I would much rather eat chicken.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
    True. I would much rather eat chicken.
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    I think all really great art has a common quality that sets it apart from all other sad attempts at art. Something that, if you look for it, you will find in all the paintings you consider to be your favourites. Some people will argue that it's hard to put your finger on this quality, or that what it exactly is differs from person to person. But it's really quite simple: it's full plate armour.

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