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    Masters to study for tonal pattern, value pattern?

    I want to do some studies of the value relationships in paintings, just simple thumbnail type stuff. I was thinking starting at circa 1500 and working my way forward. So far I was thinking Caravaggio and Velazquez. I have little experience in doing this so if you've done this sort of thing before and can name some specific artists that were helpful to you that would be mucho appreciated.

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    Not from the 1500's, but I know a lot of people study Frazetta for this type of thing.

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    study some caravaggio, get a torch/direct light source and a mirror and recreate the Chiaroscuro effect in two tone created by said master artist.

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    Rembrandt as well of course - I've only done this once from a Sargent. I'll check some resources and if I think of anyone else I'll post it.

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    goddam N.C.Wyeth.

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    Yes these are all great artists. In my opinion the thing with Pyle is that if you take out the values the drawing still holds together, I mean the drawing still retains most of it's effect in just line. If you compare this to Velasquez you can see that a lot of his power is coming from the values, take that away and his pictures lose a ton in expressiveness.

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    The thing about those higher contrast chiarascuro (tenebrism) guys is the value relationships are pretty harsh - more like big solid shapes of dark/light with little transition. But maybe that's what you're after? Studying those larger interlocking forms/shapes?

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    Sorolla would make an interesting Master to study for sure...that sense of Mediterranean light he achieved was incredible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffX99 View Post
    The thing about those higher contrast chiarascuro (tenebrism) guys is the value relationships are pretty harsh - more like big solid shapes of dark/light with little transition. But maybe that's what you're after? Studying those larger interlocking forms/shapes?
    It's more about figuring out which artists represent the value part of composition the best and learning from them. The dichotomy(hate using this word) I've always seen, and I believe most everyone has seen, is Rembrandt(tone) vs Durer(line). Even Winsor McCay has strips where he's using black against white but he's still a line guy. Any artist that works in the western tradition uses chiaroscuro, that quality is very important for the type of art I want to do so I'm not intersted in looking at old Japanese artists or stuff similar to that even though I like what they do.

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    You could try Pieter de Hooch, Titian, Claude Lorrain, Mary Cassatt, Chardin, John Constable. Hope it helps.

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    I see your Constable and raise you a Jean-Leon Gerome.

    Also, Dutch Baroque. And Vermeer.

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    Seurat's drawings are pretty much 100% defined by value... although there's not much to break down, they're already super-simplified...

    Prud'hon might be an option as well...

    Da Vinci comes to mind, but that's probably not what you're looking for exactly.

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    How about Giacomo Favretto?

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