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January 7th, 2011 #1
After i add effects previous version looks like crap
So i allways had this damn problem, i am coloring something and i really love it but then i just want to try how it would look with some added effects so i set the image on GAUSIAN BLUR , and the image before the GB looks like crap to me...
Example, the normal image kinda looks boring and colorless while the imge with GB looks really reflective and colorfull.
So is it just me or the previous version looks like crap ?
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The shadows are more saturated and the lights neutral so it makes the image 'glow.'
January 7th, 2011 #3
The first one looks far better to me, just needs some saturation at the light / shade boundaries on the skin, a bit of reflected light colouration and slightly deeper shadows at the junctures. The second image looks terrible.
January 7th, 2011 #4
Here is another example, i made another DA account and i took all of my old stuff and edit it for 5 min. do you still thing that the image with effects is terible
January 7th, 2011 #5
The colors are blown out on the second, but the skin tone is better. There is a lot of color you're missing in your original skin tones. That's why it looks "better" because the skin looks more vibrant to your audience.
So you have to think about what is the problem. The problem is color choice. In addition you need to also learn about the color's chroma and saturation. You need to learn how to work on good color choices first than adding slight tweaks later with PS trickery
Last edited by Arshes Nei; January 7th, 2011 at 10:58 AM.
January 7th, 2011 #6
yes i totally agree that i need to learn a lot about hues , saturations and colors overal
btw that image is a year old xD, i use a lot of different colors now , i tihnk this is my only work that i like without any effects ,, and if i added tha GB the clothes and brush strokes wouldnt be visible
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January 7th, 2011 #8
This is all I mean. A bit of reflected light, darkening the areas of juncture and a bit of saturation for the skin. Obviously I only spent a couple of minutes but you get the idea.
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January 7th, 2011 #10
If you ever look at a lot of skin there is some blue or light turquoise. I just notice you have slates of "peach and brown" but no blues in the palette to cool colors down.
Marta Dahlig has some good tips on it and Dani Draws http://danidraws.com/2007/05/14/pain...ur-skin-tones/
They give some overview, but you still need to observe real skin, but you'll start seeing it.
January 7th, 2011 #11
January 7th, 2011 #12
And don't forget edge control...
January 8th, 2011 #13
Your original image lacks color saturation, so adding saturation to it makes the skin color closer to what works.
Gaussian blur, however, is just a cheap trick. It reduces detail and makes your clumsy technique less evident. You can get much the same result if you shrink the image down - which was done for printed illustrations since people first invented the photo reproduction process.
What I mean to say is: don't rely on post-production tricks. Improve your starting point to begin with.
Here's a breakdown of light and color by Niklas Janssen: http://www.itchstudios.com/psg/art_tut.htm . By what I see, it addresses every difficulty you have with skin and color in general.
Other problems you've got can be tackled by getting better at constructive drawing. Make your forms clearer and perspective tighter. Brush up on human anatomy - a lot.
And a tip: since color is always perceived in context, painting the background first always helps to figure out the colors in the objects. If you don't intend it to be white, don't leave it white in hopes of coloring it later - it will never match the rest of your work. Even a simple colored background provides a starting point against which you can place all your colors.
January 8th, 2011 #14
yes you are right, i only use it cause a 80% artwork can look like 100% finished with gausian blur cause i never finish my artwork to the 100% , just checked that site and man that is totally awesome, that could normally be found in 10 split tutorials but that is all in one xD.
About the background, i normally never coloring exept if its clouds and sky, i just dont know how to do that nice grunge bk, ( you know what i mean ?) just a simple BK with some textures. the reason is cause i easily give up, art isnt so fun as it used to be.
ALso thanks guy for the help.,, also what brush would you suggest to get those skin textures like Baron used ?, i now use Rahll and Matbrushes cause he got a brush that looks like a octagon
January 8th, 2011 #15
Uh skin textures? Looks like he's just using the artist's oils brush with grain.
January 8th, 2011 #16
Yep, just a custom brush with faint grain and paper set to artists' canvas (or some such). Not Artists Oils although it would be if AO actually worked with grain... I do keep telling those Corel guys so I'm hoping they fix that in 12
And that's Painter of course, no idea about textures in PS.
January 8th, 2011 #17
I was able to get grain on artist's oils but it has to do with pushing the Amount and Wetness Sliders down. Though if you keep tweaking sometimes it just causes the same effect even with different sliders (like you can get the same effect even though in both cases the sliders are completely different).
January 9th, 2011 #18
When was the last time you seriously attempted to paint something on a topic not derived from an existing franchise?
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THE ABOVE LINK IS ALL YOU NEED
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=200044 <- Sketchbook - filled with unhappy things.
January 9th, 2011 #19
Try increasing the Gaussian blur radius to 250, that should help even more.
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