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    Link portrait WIP

    Sort of at the point in this painting where it'd be cool to get some feedback. There's still a lot more to do, but I guess I'm mainly concerned about lighting and anatomy of the face. Thanks for looking!

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    Nice portrait so far! I do see some problems with the face and shadows, though. Nothing super serious. Would it be okay with you if I did a paint over?

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    Of course, I love paintovers

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    Alright here goes!

    Basically what I was missing from your portrait was depth. Where the tip of the nose fell to meet the mouth things began tilting off-center which gave the mouth a flatter appearance (especially when compared to your beautifully rendered eyes).
    So basically what I did was center the nose, give it some more depths and shadows, and did the same with the mouth. I also punched out the highlights you already set around his face (like his forehead and cheeks). Hope this helps!

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    wow, couldn't have asked for better help. thanks so much. And, you're right, it definitely lacked depth. It's one of my biggest struggles, most my stuff looks flat as a pancake. Thanks again!

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    To avoid the "flatness as pancake", you must keep yourself aware of the three-dimensional form while you draw or paint. Work as if you were sculpting, not drawing on something flat.

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    Quick figure-ground suggestion: Try adjusting the lighting of the negative space to contrast with where the light is hitting the head. So, light on the right side of the image, dark on the left.

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    Here's another paintover, I basically changed the outlining of his head, mainly to show where his jaw should be on the left, under the ear. Also took out a bit of his chin. Zelda ftw

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    This looks lush so far

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    mnemonic -
    1. imho, you would do better by changing the color of your background. First, because it is close to his face's color (focus point) and secondly because warm color creates the illusion of being close, while cold color creates the illusion of distance. A cold colored background also helps you to create depth by chosing to push elements away with a touch of the same color. You can lead the focus easily to the warmest elements in the picture - in your case this is the face. I've been overexaggerating the blue for depth in the overdrawing, to have you see better where depth should work for this picture.

    2. Link's face imho is recognizable by his gentle, thin and very pointy nose, maybe you wanna change that.

    Dana - you made mistake in your overdrawing: in 3/4 portraits, the shadows face half always shows a triangle under the eye. See in my overdrawing, how the nose shadow falls.

    arenhaus - seriously, don't get me wrong, but you sometimes give really superficial answers, telling that general anatomy/lightning/shading/coloring is bad and he/she needs to learn more (by pencil). But you never point out anything, to rationate your arguments. In this case - sculpting it doesn't help, if mnemonic does not know to set highlight reflections, or making one face half darker, or about depth through color (like the stuff mentioned above)

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    Dana did not really make a mistake. The triangle of lighting under the eye refers to the rembrandt lighting which is often used in portraits, not only 3/4 ones. Not using this lighting technique is not necessarily a mistake.

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    Actually it's known and refered generally from the movie, where triangles are one of many codes for unconscious feelings in the viewer. And sure the triangle doesn't appear always, but it appears in 3/4 portraits, where the further aways side is shadowed or any portrait where the nose sets a shadow. Rembrandt may drew many portraits, where this happened. Also, the reason why Dana's shadow was wrong, is, that the shadow of the bridge (the upper nose part), between the eyes is only appearing if the light comes directly from the side, and still it doesn't stand out as far a the point of the nose. That means, it is impossible to have a bigger shadow from the bridge than from the nose point, and definately it can't be that strong, not in this case.

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    It does look like I missed that little triangle there but I was more concerned about straightening out the nose/mouth area at the time. Sorry to cause any confusion.

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