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    The Totally, Extremely,New, Beginner, Learning Sketchbook

    Anyway I always wanted to draw stuff but of course I grew up with this only talented people can draw mentality so I rarely. It didn't help that I was visually impaired artistically that is so that only strengthened the belief. So I basically went through life looking at other artist wondering what was there "secret" to drawing.

    Well I just realized a year a ago that I could draw. Yep here I am 20 years old and just found out a year that I could draw something and it looks like whatever the it was I was trying to draw. Granted it was terrible but I can do it. And it started with Keys to Drawing by Bert Dodson. Now I have this crazy idea about wanting to become a artist but I think deep down I was meant to do this.lol Not quite sure what area I want to be in as an artist but I'll get a feel for it along the way. Now I just have to get past the occasional procrastination and other challenges get to practicing.
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    More perspective and a still life that didn't go well

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    don't hesitate to write a little about yourself ;-) welcome to the show. and don't forget to draw lots!

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    Horsey! You know horses were one of the first things I started drawing too lol. Yes keep drawing, you will soon see improvements if you draw a little everyday!

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    @Kfeeras I'm very reserved even online but I guess I could post a little more about me. lol

    @Kalinn Yes horses are fun to draw.

    My computer died on me and the laptop wouldn't work right away with my printer/scanner. Anyway here is the stuff I have been working on since then.Still working on perspective. I did more still life and a couple of personal projects. I need to finish the painting with the flower before it dies and there are quite a few mistakes in the painting too. The one of the dog is from a show I was watching so I paused the t.v. to try and sketch it real quick. Mistakes made there too but it fun to draw.

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    Today I decided to try adding some shading to the apple. One was done with pencil and the other digital. They both turned out terrible. I'm always shading hard edges when they need to be soft. Oh well that's what practice is for right.

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    When your first learning to shade things it might help to spray paint a few items white and lay them on white drapery. That way instead of drawing the different tones of the apple plus the lighting from the set up you can focus exclusively on the tones of the object.
    White blocks of the basic shapes are great for beginner level shading practice.

    When shading an object you need to think of the volume of the object. Think of it simply and it will seem simpler. Block out your object, and figure out what direction the planes are facing. The planes facing the light are brightest and get less light as they move away from the source. Then add your reflected lights.

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    you're doing all the right things, practice practice practice!

    i'd leave the shading practice for much later tho, right now it'll be a ton of work for very little payoff, and you'll get very frustrated. once you start to understand volumes and depth and all that, then you can use shading to add to your finished pieces.
    for now i'd stick to line drawings in pencil (and try to stay away from that eraser, learn from your mistakes instead of hiding them)

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    Hi, DanielsK5. I think you have a good start, nice studies on perspective. Keep it up and you'll grow quickly!

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    : That's a pretty valuable advice that helped me understand a bit more about form too, ha! Thanks.

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    Rhubix When your first learning to shade things it might help to spray paint a few items white and lay them on white drapery. That way instead of drawing the different tones of the apple plus the lighting from the set up you can focus exclusively on the tones of the object.
    White blocks of the basic shapes are great for beginner level shading practice.

    When shading an object you need to think of the volume of the object. Think of it simply and it will seem simpler. Block out your object, and figure out what direction the planes are facing. The planes facing the light are brightest and get less light as they move away from the source. Then add your reflected lights.
    Thank You so much for the advice. I kept on wondering how I could set up a still life with out the different tone.

    NeonDuck you're doing all the right things, practice practice practice!

    i'd leave the shading practice for much later tho, right now it'll be a ton of work for very little payoff, and you'll get very frustrated. once you start to understand volumes and depth and all that, then you can use shading to add to your finished pieces.
    for now i'd stick to line drawings in pencil (and try to stay away from that eraser, learn from your mistakes instead of hiding them)
    Your right it is frustrating right now. I'll try again later on. I haven't been using the eraser until tonight. But I won't be using it anymore for a while.

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    ouzinka Hi, DanielsK5. I think you have a good start, nice studies on perspective. Keep it up and you'll grow quickly!
    Thanks I was getting a little worried that I wasn't starting off right.

    Well this is what drew today more perspective, cube, and a still life. It took a long time to do the two point presective with out screwing it up and I think I came close to what I had in mind in the last one. I searched around and am doing yoitisi tutorials http://conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=146 while trying to combine what I learn in perspective made easy. Hopefully I get better at perspective and drawing still life keeping this up.

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    Great perspective studies, you're already starting to improve, keep at it. Lets see some more colour and and make sure you practice what you dont like drawing, if you let it get past you now itll only get harder.

    Also here's a tutorial that you might find helpful. http://itchstudios.com/psg/art_tut.htm
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    Jaunay Great perspective studies, you're already starting to improve, keep at it. Lets see some more colour and and make sure you practice what you dont like drawing, if you let it get past you now itll only get harder.

    Also here's a tutorial that you might find helpful. http://itchstudios.com/psg/art_tut.htm
    Thank You for the advice and the link. I'll keep that in mind and read the link tomorrow.

    Just more perspective studies this time tried stack the blocks on top of one another to make a building. Didn't go well. My still life didn't either it was supposed to be fan but it had more details than I thought. Well long story short I couldn't pull it off. I also didn't add the shading like I wanted to(yes I was going to try it again) but the lighting in the room was kind of soft(hope I explained it correctly). Maybe later when I get better hopefully. The good news is that I didn't erase and kept the mistakes in both of them.

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    These last two days of not posting has taught me that I need to post at a different time besides midnight. Especially if someone is spending the night and using the guest room where the computer is at. Anyhow here is what I have done lately. Perspective, cubes, still life, and something from imagination(which is what i get when watching the cooking channel). The last still life I erased the mistakes.

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    Good to see you're still around and kicking it in the butt.

    Keep at it.
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    jouzinka Good to see you're still around and kicking it in the butt.

    Keep at it.
    Thanks that's encouraging to hear.

    Anyway I went to art supply and got a (err small sample pack?) of some charcoal (vine and pastel with a couple of pencils)and decided to experiment with that so here is five minute sketch just using the vine just to see how it is. I need to practice more to get the hang of it. A still life which I actually used a HB 4 pencil. I thought it would never come in handy ha ha. I also had to stop myself from drawing another t.v. he he. I seem to be interested in drawing them for some odd reason. This still life did turn out worse than the last one though(not that any of it is that good anyway). I thought I had everything right till the very end. Oh well just means I need to pay more attention and practice more.

    I think for the next couple of days I'm going to get back to studying the basic shapes and worry a little less about still life.
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    Yes I know I said I was going to focus on basic shapes but I could help myself. I just screwed up drawing my own hand and a couple of other things along the way. Guess that's what I get for not sticking to the program.

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    I also decided to draw the pencil sharpener again today. Man these cubes are a killer to draw as usual but hopefully I can do better with more practice.

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    Awesome. Keep up the hard work.
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    jouzinka Awesome. Keep up the hard work.
    Ok so I did more cubes except this I tried them freehand. It was a lot more fun than having a ruler and getting technical about it. But in the end I know I'm going to need to know how to do some construction drawing or it will come back and haunt me later.

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    Ok well had computer problems again. Even though I got it back fixed up and updated to windows 7 the monitor died too. So now we have to look for a new monitor. The laptop was acting up as well but I fixed that it was the usual virus. Anyway here is more (crappy)art. I focused more on still life yesterday. The first one was supposed to be a stuffed gecko, the second a glass bear, and third the heater. All turned out bad as usual the heater especially. I tried shading it(Bad idea). Today I did practice drawing some ellipses and circles but I didn't scan them but I did scan the heater that I redrew it looks a little bit better. It's still bad though. Oh Well back to drawing.

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    Hey, dude, cheer up. It's not like it's not gonna get any better ever! Just keep up with it.
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    Since I got the moniter I was just playing around on the computer and downloaded artweaver. I drew this as test. I kept all the mistakes and it took about 15 minutes.

    .jouzinka Hey, dude, cheer up. It's not like it's not gonna get any better ever! Just keep up with it.
    Thanks I needed that. Need to quit being so hard on myself.
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    Hi!

    It seems to me that you are pushing yourself too hard. Drawing should be fun, at least at the beginning (in my opinion)... So - draw/sketch/doodle what ever you like and do not worry about angles and right lightning... Actually, there is no right or wrong way to draw - there is only your style
    But this is not an excuse to be lazy, keep learning.

    Draw a cube is not a goal in itself, try to use your knowledges in your sketches. Try to draw this same desk lamp (right?) using perspective of cubes.

    Some suggestions:

    Gwen White - Perspective
    Joseph D'Amelio - Perspective Drawing Handbook
    Norling - Perspective Made Easy

    The Gnomonworkshop - all Scott Robertson's DVDs

    Have fun!

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    If I keep having computer issues it's going to get thrown out the window. Anyway here is small sample of what I have been doing. I'll upload the rest tomorrow. Did a couple of the Keys to Drawing exercises in the first one and more perspective practice in the second.

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    Sigh... brown outs from this cold weather and still computer issues. Anyway more perspective for that day and a still life that I kind of like(for once could still use some improvement though). The last one was a exercise I did following Rhubix idea finally. That one turned out bad but I was just experimenting with shading. Now I know not to do that way anymore. I had done one digitally too but unfortunately I saved it another computer and lost the file. It was a user error so can't put the blame on the computer like usual. I did those between the 1-24-11 and 1-26-11. Hopefully I can post everything I've been doing tomorrow.

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    Sangría, hmmmmm... Did you at least drink it afterwards as a reward for the hard work you're putting forth?
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    good start mate
    just remember - anyone can learn to draw - you will soon see the improvements of your efforts

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    Hello!

    Maybe it's easier to me, if i draw your problem

    The Totally, Extremely,New, Beginner, Learning Sketchbook

    Watch those red lines and red dots. Red dots are vanishing points. Everything vanishes to th vanishing points.
    If you draw a box with 2 point perspective (as you do in left pic) don't just draw only two sides of box to vanish (black lines). But i assume that sides of this box are parallel... So: PARALLEL LINES ARE SAME VANISHING POINT (red lines) .

    What i ment with this? "
    Draw a cube is not a goal in itself, try to use your knowledges in your sketches. Try to draw this same desk lamp (right?) using perspective of cubes."

    Every object on Earth has vanishing points (desctop, laptops, buildings, trees, even human)... so, they are in perspective.
    Like this cylinder if you draw a bottle or something else, that has cylindrical shape.
    The Totally, Extremely,New, Beginner, Learning Sketchbook

    Knock yourself out!

    PS. This is the easy way to draw perspective. It can be much worser with measuring points and 3-point perspective, BUT don't bother yourself with this at the moment.
    I hope you understand ma explanation. My english is BAD, sorry
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    jouzinka Sangría, hmmmmm... Did you at least drink it afterwards as a reward for the hard work you're putting forth?
    No I wish but it wasn't mine and I'm still a few months under age to be drinking anyway. Not like that stops me.

    Shadowseeker good start mate
    just remember - anyone can learn to draw - you will soon see the improvements of your efforts
    Thanks that's good to hear

    Somelar

    Thank You for the information it was very helpful.

    Well here is the stuff I've been doing lately. I tried to upload it order but some got mixed up anyway. I took a break from perspective for a bit it was starting to get on my nerves.

    Instead I practiced on different types of shading in the first 2, Jack Hamm How to Draw animals, some still life practice in pen, basic shapes with a random drawing, a quick ten min. still life(same fan I did earlier),shading practice in pen, Andrew Loomis Fun with a Pencil, using charcoal practice. I even tried to create some creatures on my own in the second to last post.
    that was between January 27-11 to February 3-11. Will try to upload the stuff I draw today if I get a chance to draw (so much homework).

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    I did the same horse at the top of the forum to see if I had improved. So far I think I barely improved. At least that's better than nothing.

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