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    Unhappy Persuasion is still like a snowball's chance in the solar corona!

    It's the latest web column I've written about how "against-the-laws-of-physics" difficult persuasion is. Or at least that's the case for me.

    http://www.renderwrx.net/asnowballschance.htm


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    There is another reason why your comic didn't sell. Can you guess what it is?

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    Have you tried craigslist?

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    Timelike - Are you bitching or asking for advice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timelike01 View Post
    It's the latest web column I've written about how "against-the-laws-of-physics" difficult persuasion is. Or at least that's the case for me.

    http://www.renderwrx.net/asnowballschance.htm

    Hate to break it to you, but there are plenty of comics that have seen success without celebrity endorsements. Diary of a Wimpy Kid, and Goblins! are just two right off the top of my head that are doing quite well without stellar artwork, because people got into the story.

    Romantically Apocalyptic freakin' BURST out of the gate for having incredible art and a truly goofy story line to go with it.

    There's no sex in any of these. Trying to cash in on a catch phrase 'sex sells' (i.e. - I'll put scantily clad women in this, surefire hit) was your first mistake.

    I haven't seen the comic, but I can guess at the others.

    Menage a Three does have some sexy times in it, but again, it's drawn pretty well and has a super fun story line.

    This may sound like blasphemy here, but in comics, story will trump art almost every time. Great art without a story will sell a few copies, but won't garner loyal readers who come back to the characters that they love over and over.

    And comics are first a labor of love. Blind money grabs just don't work. Neither does whining. Make your story because you love it. They're a lousy way to seek fast income. But if you really care about the story you want to tell, and have great, engaging characters that develop over time, the readership will just come.

    And oh yeah, whining isn't helpful - either in your comic, or on your blog. It just makes you sound like a spoilt brat who tossed off some half ass sketches and expected great profit.

    Doesn't work that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timelike01 View Post
    It's the latest web column I've written about how "against-the-laws-of-physics" difficult persuasion is. Or at least that's the case for me.

    http://www.renderwrx.net/asnowballschance.htm
    I'd like to take this opportunity to remind young comickers that before you print a comic book you ought to hold a pre-order sale or at least ask the opinion of some bluntly honest individuals who don't know you. Otherwise you're just choosing an expensive way to insulate your garage.
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    Angry

    I think my point has thoroughly been proven here. For me persuasion is indeed like a snowball's chance in the solar corona. I may not be right about everything, but I'm probably right about that.

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    I KNEW IT! Damn, those scientists manipulating us that global warming exists. Those slimy bastards!
    Using their facts and statistics to "persuade us."
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    Have you tried persuading people by... getting good at something?

    Good art, good writing, good funny? that kind of thing..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flake View Post
    Have you tried persuading people by... getting good at something?

    Good art, good writing, good funny? that kind of thing..

    After seeing the work posted, I think that's the real issue. There's a great lil comic about the trials of being a freelance illustrator - http://freelanceswitch.com/tag/freelance-freedom/

    that deals with all kinds of issues. It's also drawn well and funny. Flat out - you've got a poorly realized character that just whines. Who would even read that for free?

    You never bothered building an audience, unlike the other successes I mentioned. Insta fame and fortune just doesn't happen. Period.

    You've got options: learn how to write and get better at drawing, or keep whining and wonder why nobody appreciates you.

    xkxd by the way, is a common sensation, and it sure as hell ain't because the writer is a brilliant artist - he draws stick figures! And the comic is brilliant.

    Get the fuck over yourself and stop being a whiny little bitch. Consider for a moment, that maybe nobody offers you paid work because you're just not that good yet.

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    Pretty much the only comic I read with any regularity, and it's not for the Vermeer-esque art.

    http://nataliedee.com/
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    Sometimes she makes me giggle while I'm drinking coffee and waiting for work related stuff to download.
    Either way, I've had her bookmarked for years.
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    I can't even find your comic, just a couple amateurish websites with a short blurb about it.

    Your art may not be the greatest but it's better than most webcomic art at least. I can't guess what the writing is like but if you made the comic easy to find and updated it on a regular basis for a few years you might get somewhere with it.

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    Your writing is meandering and self indulgent. You don't explain your thesis statement, begin with a mostly superfluous anecdote, and fail to accurately explain what the title of your essay actually means.
    And stop repeating that "solar corona" phrase. You don't need to keep saying that over and over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timelike01 View Post
    I think my point has thoroughly been proven here. For me persuasion is indeed like a snowball's chance in the solar corona. I may not be right about everything, but I'm probably right about that.
    I think this is very relevant to your problem:

    Persuasion is still like a snowball's chance in the solar corona!

    Here's a lil' tip, from that book: Basically, if your "web column" looks like a skyscraper built of letters, I'm not gonna want to read it unless it's been given glowing recommendations. And seeing as I've still yet to read "The Brothers Karamazov", it's a pretty hard sell.
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    The only thing I've learned from this thread is that you just learned what the solar corona is.

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    I'm surprised he actually replied to his thread. He usually just does a 1 time shitpost.

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    Sex sells, but there's no guarantee of strong sales since the market is saturated.
    Science anti-sells, unless it's sci-fi or comedic in nature.

    So basically your business plan sucked and you got burned. Sorry, better luck next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfacto View Post
    Sex sells, but there's no guarantee of strong sales since the market is saturated.
    Science anti-sells, unless it's sci-fi or comedic in nature.

    So basically your business plan sucked and you got burned. Sorry, better luck next time.
    Sex doesn't sell. Sexiness sells. When something unsexy is presented in a sexual nature, it anti-sells. Case in point:
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    Huh, well that too.

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    You mean my sex drawing has to be sexy to sell? Bummer.

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    Elwell that reminds me of clipart from Print Shop Pro ....

    I remember back in the days it was so cool printing out 3d text D:

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