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    Female warrior (from scratch!)

    Feedback is appreciated!

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    Her arms are very problematic- check them over.
    For a female, her shoulder's are pretty broad.
    Where exactly is the light coming from?

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    Agreed, the arms aren't in any natural motion/posture (well, at least her left arm). I'm not sure if her right arm is holding that shield or what. And you need to sort out what's going on around her feet. Her right foot looks like it's on the tippy-toes, and her right foot should not be perfectly invisible behind the right foot.
    In overall gesture/pose, she's looking more like a runway model than a warrior to me.

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    her shoulders are supposed to be pretty broad and the light is coming from above and a bit from the left (her right) but I haven't really done anything with the shading yet
    Her right arm is holding the shield and her left was supposed to be about to grab the axe, gonna go look into a mirror and see how I would reach for a weapon xD

    She's in the middle of a step, hence the her right foot being so.. on the tippy-toes like.

    Yeah she does have a runway model pose (I watched some runway show on TV before drawing this...) so I'll probably redo her legs and feet.

    Thanks for the comments Really appreciate you helping me out.

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    get some _reference_ for the Anatomy and Materials and start over. a little starting help because i am at work & bored:

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    EDIT: Dont copy exactly what you see but use it for inspiration & material rendering. Dont worry about the lightning, get the line drawing good first

    EDIT 2:By the way, this was 3 Minutes of Google Search and Pasting Work ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kfeeras View Post
    get some _reference_ for the Anatomy and Materials and start over. a little starting help because i am at work & bored:

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    EDIT: Dont copy exactly what you see but use it for inspiration & material rendering. Dont worry about the lightning, get the line drawing good first

    This is a great thing to do before any piece, and I always forget to do it. It goes miles!

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    thanks a bunch for setting me straight and helping with the references.
    Do it over and do it right I suppose

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    Right. Think nothing of doing it over; the experience is more valuable than the picture.

    I'd suggest to work out the structure before you shade; going from general to detail is the best strategy, because that way you can fix big errors before you've buried under tons of wasted work.

    The site at fineart.sk has textbooks by Andrew Loomis that you no doubt would find very useful.

    And the usual thing I say: sketch and practice on paper. Computer makes sketching much harder than it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spectral View Post
    thanks a bunch for setting me straight and helping with the references.
    Do it over and do it right I suppose
    You've got the right attitude there man, that puts you 1000 steps ahead of everyone else who would see those comments and be defensive. When you justify or defend all you end up doing is postponing your own artistic improvement, but when you can let go of a piece and start over, you learn to identify issues, how to correct them, and in general become a better artist.

    I'd also recommend not painting onto a white background, as it messes with your relative values when working digitally. If your going to go background free I'd suggest working form a neutral grey background so you can push and pull values in both directions.

    Looking forward to seeing the next version!

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    thanks for the kind comments uploaded a new version with just the pose and stuff because I want to get it right from the start this time ^^
    her left arm is too short right? just noticed it
    @arenhaus - very helpful texts there, thanks! Got lots of reading to do!
    @truepinkas - agree 100% with all you said.

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    Well you've pretty much only got the outline now, show us the construction which will be a lot easier to comment on.

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    some clothes and stuff

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    Hmmm... well the biggest thing I see is that your hands could use some work. Second biggest thing I'd say is the feet, which look simplified and stumpy. I'd look at references for both of those and practice lots.
    The pose is looking a bit awkward too. I'm not really sure what kind of pose you're trying to hit there, but it seems like the upper body and head are facing slightly leftwards (our left) but the legs are trying to face the opposite. And the boob heights should pretty much follow shoulder height, so considering that, her right boob looks too low (or left too high, depending on boob gravity).

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    So ummmmm... for no good reason (other than the fact that I have time on my hands at work), I spent a good amount of time on modelling up this sketch that was supposed to be a paintover originally, but it became more of a personal sketching exercise. So excuse me, but I'll post it here in hopes that it might help you in any way. I probably would have wanted more 'tude in the pose and less nude art model, but oh well.
    By the way, the handle of the axe is supposed to be somewhat resting on the girl's thigh.

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    I don't know what your process is, but I agree with Wooblood that construction will greatly help. The silhouette of her abdomen looks strange to me, but I can't really tell because it's just an outline.
    Also, her axe-holding hand's fingers are odd. They're all the same length and I can't tell where they bend.

    The costume doesn't look bad so far, though the boots bother me because the right one makes her foot a bit flat and its laced area seems to be above the actual boot.

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    Thank you for taking your time and helping a noob out!

    uploading a newer version before I hit the gym! Changed the pose and some other stuff!

    Drawing hands and feet makes me suicidal need to practice more! Is it just me or is her left foot too.. eh.. angled?
    Thinking of skipping the laces and just going with the straps (yeah the laced area was above the shoe... thanks for telling me, Tangleworm)

    @wooblood. glad I could help you practice! xD

    [EDIT] gotta fix her right shoe so it doesn't look like a cardboard box + the arm lengths

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    I've been ill these past few days, haven't been able to draw anything
    Update!

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    Quote Originally Posted by spectral View Post
    I've been ill these past few days, haven't been able to draw anything
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    @spectral: Sure hope you're feeling better now, currious how you character develops.

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