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    Or the lack of them. In ye olde days pubes were not shown as they were a symbol of being a real woman and art was supposed to be greater than that showing goddesses etc. These days, to please certain men, women will shave their pubes in all sorts of shapes or off completely. While you may think it may be more aesthetically pleasing, I wonder how many men would feel about shaving their pubes as part of their daily routine. Why do men feel that women with public hair less attractive or do you find that the sight drives you demented with desire that you cannot control yourselves upon exposure to an untamed forest? Why must bikini lines be drawn so high that it leaves nothing to the imagination?

    I remember watching a Billy Connolly show where he asked the question, “What if pubes didn’t stop growing?” and then, “What if you could style them and show them off?” I’m quoting from memory here.

    Just think that the pressures women have to conform to is where men are heading too. Is this a pubic hair too far?


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    If I had to guess lol its because being hairy is more of a manly thing. Its just like why do girl shave their armpits? Then again lot of guys shave all of their hair too so that makes you wonder. I don't think a lot of pubes is gross as long as it not an untamed forest lol. Another thing is that its all about money. I mean who profits from people shaving all of their hair. Plus Fashion gets to dip into that by making Bikinis smaller and smaller and smaller. And girls like to compete with each other to see whose the most attractive, So guys make advantage of that lol.

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    I dont think its less attractive but its funny you made this thread lol... I mean maybe its because I'm real into doing things a natural way. But I doubt any justice will be done by you mentioning this shit. You can't change a persons mold (at least for the most part you can't). Some men will always prefer there women to be well shaved. Are you trying to raise awareness??? PUBIC HAIR!!!!

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    This is probably gonna lead into a thread of bashing the sexes. That said most guys shave their bodies as well.

    But if we really got down to it I think its a culture thing.

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    Actually guys do shave their pubes now. And wax. Blame metrosexuals

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyerOrdStar View Post
    Actually guys do shave their pubes now. And wax. Blame metrosexuals
    Ye this reminds me I gotta wax my bikini line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyerOrdStar View Post
    Actually guys do shave their pubes now. And wax. Blame metrosexuals
    maybe they've been inspired by the hairless porn stars

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    Quote Originally Posted by am●na,☼nafa&Kash☉fa View Post
    maybe they've been inspired by the hairless porn stars
    Next up is bleaching our assholes.


    I personally love pubic hair on a woman, but apparently that's a 'fetish' nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidgardSerpent View Post
    Next up is bleaching our assholes.


    I personally love pubic hair on a woman, but apparently that's a 'fetish' nowadays.
    Nowadays EVEYTHING can be categorized into a fetish. Some people even see long hair and short hair as fetishes. -_-

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    cosign, you can't do anything without someone saying "oh so your into breathing, and taking showers" "thats cool man"

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    Some trimming is done because it's practical. But I don't like how women (or men) then feel as though they must conform to having no pubes. If you really like being shaved, then that's great for you. But if you don't like it or suffer negative effects due to shaving, you're suddenly undesirable because you're not hairless? That's sad.

    Artistically, I always feel a bit uncomfortable seeing DA style shots of hairless crotches since I place hair with sexual maturity. I know the models are overage but still how about a little bush on the top or something? Especially when they don't bother to show the top so you can make sure the rest of the body is developed.

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    Oooooooookay...

    So...I am supposed to let some female (hopefully) or some dude (who's very into his hetro-ism) shave my nethers with a device that can be used to fillet a mastodon. Yeah... How do I put this...oh...how about..."FUCK YOU, YOU RAVING IMBECILE!" ?

    As for others, male or female, if it drags on the damn ground when you walk down the street in work clothes, PUH-leeeeeeze buy some scissors/chain saw/cute lady razors/Nair and try to rejoin the species. Otherwise, trim what's embarrassing if you like short shorts or bikinis, and keep what's left to at least give me some hope I won't be in prison for the rest of my life--I'm really not into 11-year-olds...unless they buy me dinner and a set of nice watercolors first.

    I really don't care if it ends up looking like an ace of spades, a triangle, the moon over New Jersey, or a fuckin' Mack truck, as long as it's neat and clean on either gender (and those in between), because it makes me feel comfortable to now that another real ADULT trusts me enough to allow me to "notice" the nuances of hedgerow styling. Nothing at all can be nice, too, but there's always that little nagging thing at the back of your skull that reminds you of when you sang Insy Winsy Spider to your little nieces when you tucked them in...

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    Nothing more creepy to me than seeing girls with giant fake boobs and totally hairless crotches.

    The hairless thing looks pre-pubescent, which I'm not really into. I prefer sexually mature females, thank you.

    Not sure how the trend started, but "neatly trimmed" has gone way too far.

    Also, as a male and and artist, I'm very picky about certain female physical features - one of them is breasts that have no natural concave shape. Convex balloon breasts from implants look horrible.

    Of course the majority of men have no ability to discern what looks natural and what doesn't. Women with giant fake tits remind me of hunters who place crudely carved wooden decoy ducks out in fields to attract birds. Men are like the mindless ducks attracted to the fake inanimate objects, and who only recognize simplistic shapes "ohh.. big round things....must grab..."

    Cankles are also a deal breaker, but that's a whole other aesthetics discussion.

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    Lord M, buying your date a batter-fried scorpion on a stick at the county fair is now considered a fetish, and so is voting in the national elections in parts of New York.

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    ...thanks to Blackspot, I've got philosophical discourse concerning pubes trying to flit around my head like cat-nip jacked cats being teased with a multi-directional laser pointer. Also, the reoccurring word is Merkin. Which is apparently coming back into fashion? Anyone out there gonna start a merkin collection?

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    I have no strong preferences either way.

    The only way I would even notice this is if I have a semi naked chick in my bed or on my sofa, at that point even the critical part of my brain is likely to be going "Yaaaay"!! Go Me!

    As long as it's not a forest, personal styling choices are unlikely to concern me much.

    I'm old enough to have seen pants hairstyles from several eras, I'm cool with them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flake View Post
    I have no strong preferences either way.

    The only way I would even notice this is if I have a semi naked chick in my bed or on my sofa, at that point even the critical part of my brain is likely to be going "Yaaaay"!! Go Me!

    As long as it's not a forest, personal styling choices are unlikely to concern me much.
    yea so true, if there is a naked girl on your sofa or bed, your most likely not even gonna think about it, there will no longer enough blood in your head to even care lol

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    I like it better shaved on girls personally, or at least very neat and trimmed and kept to a minimum, but I guess it's just a matter of preference.

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    How can I say this... shaved areas chafe your skin and I don't like my face or any other part of me getting sandpapered. I prefer women to be natural.
    Just out of curiosity wht isn't this thread in Lounge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpaint View Post
    How can I say this... shaved areas chafe your skin and I don't like my face or any other part of me getting sandpapered. I prefer women to be natural.
    Just out of curiosity wht isn't this thread in Lounge?
    because the OP was about art but people only wanted to talk about pubes by themselfs

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    Ye, I was talking about art, although I did expect some amusing fallout. I sort of feel sad that in art women are not very often portrayed with them. At least art still retains the curvy figure, for which I should be grateful.


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    *Slight digression*
    I tend to hold the belief that for most the part our bodies are the way they are for a reason, whether it is fingers nails or hair. It serves a function to our bodies. Then came along the cosmetics industry.
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    I'd lump the whole lack of pubes amongst other things in pictures, like the old warrior barbarian women with giant breasts yet having fashion model bodies and the lack of muscles to wield that giant sword.

    People's art strikes me as an ideal and ideals don't always make sense or exist in the real world. Somewhere along the line I guess it's started to be considered attractive to shave the nether regions.

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    I think mainstream beauty is kind of... Fucked, and fucked up.

    Unlike old paintings, or even old photos from the Victorian era (being "chunky" was normal too) (Look at vintage/1800s fetish/nude photos and you'll probably see what I mean. Post 1900s, decade after decade they just get skinnier, and skinnier...), these days it's very unrealistic, demanding, yet, addicting. People are so afraid of slight, visible hair on women now to the point where tweens are pressured to shave/wax. It's starting to get to the guys, but they can get away with it more than half of the time.

    I hate how my older brother throws a fit whenever my legs are slightly hairy and showing. 1) I can't shave every single day of my life, I try to hide it when I can, but I'm not going to have a heart attack if I can't and a few inches show. It's just hair. It grows on my head too. 2) I hate waxing, though that could change in the future.

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    "public hair"

    I made the mistake in Grad school of writing about public art... That's 20 pages of text, with the word "public" scattered throughout, and if I did mispell it as "pubic", no spell check would catch it. It was not a fun essay.

    Some men shave too. Worrying about your looks isn't just a problem for women. A pretty girl looks just as good (often times better) without all the makeup and creams. Women just buy more of it than men because of our consumer society chipping away at our egos. They've got lots of creams and such for men as well. And we have to shave every day.

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    Ahahaha Black Spot is this all because of my sketchbook?!?!

    Weighing in on this topic, I have no real preference. As long as it's not totally out of control, that is. And I will mention that as a guy, I have trimmed... Sometimes it's not just guys who don't like their partners body hair "totally out of control" LOL

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    Well it did get me thinking about the portrayal of it in art and why it isn't generally painted. Maybe it's too 'real' for art and makes people uncomfortable. I prefer models who haven't shaved to draw for some unfathomable reason - to me shaved just looks wrong.


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    maybe just cuz it's hard to paint? I mean, hair on skin in general is tough, you don't want to overdo it, and you can't paint every individual hair, unless you're Jan van Eyck. It's also a conceptual choice, but... Most artists in history crossed their models' legs anyway. There's a Courbet painting I think you'd approve, though... hold on...

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    Actually the reaction I get from people a lot is that, in general, people tend to find the work more "explicit" if there's pubic hair in it. Like that detail suddenly makes it not "abstracted" enough to be artistic, which is really weird for me.

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    *ignoring the non-art related discussion, yes I'm that much o f a prude don't stone me* In all my noobness, I don't recall seeing much male body hair (I'm talking arm and legs here) in art either. Is there some chance that people just didn't feel like drawing it? That maybe this isn't as deep as people make it?

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