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    Lightbulb Journey of a (relative) newbie.

    Hey,

    I've started a blog where I'm going to try and detail my progress on a Graphics Design course at Shillington College, Manchester. I have 'some' experience in graphics design, but nothing I would consider remotely good - hence handing over the required £5000 to apply. I do, however, think I have a decent eye for what looks good, which perhaps stems from my time as an amateur photographer.

    The course is 3 month long, starting on the 20th of September and finishing the 20th of December, running from 8am - 5pm, five days a week.

    In any case, my blog can be found here:

    http://ridzhar.blogspot.com

    Still finalising a few things, including getting an online visual diary to accompany it.

    As usual, any comments and criticisms would be very much welcome.

    Cheers and hope you enjoy!

    Ross

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    Hello Rossidzhar.

    Posting your images here will make it easier for us to see

    The WWF one is nice and clean. The grey is too subtle of a change for the subhead (if that's what it's meant to be), especially since you're maintaining the same type weight and size.

    You've got way too much going on with the heinz ad. You've got a ton of negative space that is not balanced with the rest of the image. The copy isn't reading well for me. You can probably lose the "heinz beans" in the type since the image already reflects the product. Half the time I'm trying to read across rather than down the two sections. The curved copy is not reading well either. I'd probably just try another approach.

    Check out grid systems in terms of information layout. Might help.

    Please PM me if you'd like an individual crit.

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    Hi Prepsage, thanks for the reply. I'll add a couple of examples a soon as I can. Yea, I should've gone a little lighter on the sub-heading for a bit more contrast, I think it was just a 95% tint.

    For the Heinz ad, as it was one of our first exercises, we're restricted to what we can and can't use. In this case, all the text provided must be used. But I understand what you mean. I agree with reading across and is what I had put originally. This caused a funny clumping of words on the right (I think it was "Heart, Fibre, Fat" and something else). So I wen't for the two seperate sentances.

    I think we're looking at grid systems later on in the course, but thanks for the advice!

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    Work examples from Day 2 - 4

    All briefs came with shapes, fonts, colour specs etc. provided. Focus seemed to be on typography / layout.

    Symmetry:

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    Havaianas brief:

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    More work on my blog.

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    Work examples from Day 5

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    Citi bank brief:

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    Kind of reminds me of the NSPCC ads Wasn't overly happy with them

    Arcade Fire brief:

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    Like the simplicity of this. It was meant to appear in a magazine, right-hand side and thought the concept mirrored the style of music.

    All images, fonts etc were pre-supplied.

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    Typography 101

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    We were tasked with making the meaning of the word be conveyed via text only.

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    Lightbulb Typography & layout

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    Only images and text were provided.

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    More Typography

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    An ad for a literature festival. This time only text was provided. Allowed us to be a bit more creative!

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    Penguin Books

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    Poster to celebrate 75 Years of Penguin Book covers. I went minimal.

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    You've got enough skills to be either working for an advertising or magazine agency; assuming if you don't have a job already.

    I wanna be better at digital arts each day... if possible.
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    Nope, no jobs as yet

    I have done an internship at the European Southern Observatory, which entailed about 70% Web content management and 30% 'graphics'. The experience was mostly just trying to teach myself inDesign with a little photo re-touching and colour correction on the side.

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    I suggest keeping your student work as a portfolio. It'll come in handy when you apply for a job as a designer.

    Oh, inDesign? That's why most of your studies are ad and magazine-like. The software is intended for that genre though ads can also be done using PhotoShop & Illustrator.

    Since you're in Shillington College, I assume you're familiar with PhotoShop & Illustrator already? If you want to increase both skill & comprehension in your spare time, I suggest buying these magazines (if they are available in your area):

    - Layers Magazine
    - Computer Arts Magazine & Computer Arts Projects

    It can help you as you read in your leisure time. Computer Arts Projects could even let you practice with the tutorial files.

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    Awesome, will check those out. Thanks!

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    Very nice. Love the typography on the upper left though it looks like a pen. Make it like a pot or a salt bottle and boom, inline with the concept.

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    Nice work, You seem to have the basics down, now it's time for you to explore more complex shapes and color schemes. It's time to crank up the energy. What you are doing is a little too conservative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    Nice work, You seem to have the basics down, now it's time for you to explore more complex shapes and color schemes. It's time to crank up the energy. What you are doing is a little too conservative.
    Usually I would agree but I think it's safer to take it slow. No need to be aggressive. Otherwise, things will become haphazard.

    I like the works so far. Everything is in line with the concept. Good typography. Good colors. Good composition.

    Keep it up, rossidzhar!

    PS. I followed you on Twitter and I couldn't believe you're part Malay part Irish! I'm a full Malay by the way.

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    @ Raoul Duke Thanks for the feedback. I do agree with you, but we are limited in some ways by the programs we're using (restricted to Indesign at present) and my current knowledge and ability! Though hopefully my work should start getting a little more complex.

    @zeejay Cheers, we more or less have to work at the same pace in class, but hopefully things should start to quicken. Yep, born in KL! Been a while since I've been back though. Will hit you up on Twitter.

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    Hey man I just wanted to say good job so far, I agree with Raoul it does all feel rather conservative, especialy that last one, explore a little more. Go crazy and then make it work.

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    @incinerated Cheers for the comment. I know what you mean, I'm just waiting for the right brief as well as my own ability to improve. Not to say that I don't want to be a little more adventurous with my ideas, but if I do, I want to excute to the same level as my other designs. Will keep you posted

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    you have nice magazine layouts

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    @DAMJAM thanks! They're coming along

    More detail on this brief on my blog.

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    Brief is for a Festival in Vancouver promoting 'change' through talks, music etc. Work in progress.

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    I think it the lastest is a step up. The "By George" ones reminds me of some post cards I picked up last week.

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    Thanks Incinerated, will post the final outcome soon

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    Just popped in to say the latest work is a huge improvement from the heinz ad. I wouldn't worry about staying conservative for a while as that is even a challenge for most people.

    The recipe spreads: Might want to keep the readability in mind when centering the ingredients on the page. I like to cook and I find it hard to meander my way down an ingredient list. I find justifying to the left makes things easier to read; especially while I've got flour all over my hands and three different things on the stove. The second spread, though well designed - is a bit wasteful on the space.

    The New Museum brochure: Lovely. Though I'll go ahead and assume the images of your print is more accurate than the colors of the proof. The image on the front feels just a little teeny, tiny bit too tight. The london transport museum logo feels like it's competing with the image as well. Maybe trying a corner placement (upper right if they're going into brochure holders) may work better? And this may just be a personal preference , but I think the body type should be different than that of your headers (as it's not the most legible of fonts).

    By George!: I'd say the logo needs to be refined a bit. The lines of the microphone feel too thin, and the base of the mic is kind of awkward. Try it without the lines and maybe it will work better? Final product looks excellent though.

    I know most of this comes too late to make a difference now, and these are small details... But you're doing awesome so far and it's a pleasure to see your rapid improvement.

    Cheer

    Please PM me if you'd like an individual crit.

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    @prepsage thanks for the feedback, anytime is appreciated!

    It's hard for me to judge when to be 'minimal', which they're pushing and what's then considered too conservative.

    Yea I think the recipe's could have done better aligned left for increased readability. I'll bear it in mind when it comes up to portfolio time.

    Would not have even considered a corner placement for the brochure, must be something you learn as you go along! (and how it would appear stacked next to other brochures).

    Again, will try beefing up the lines around the mic when I get the chance. I had an 'unstroked' version, which did look OK, so may substitute instead.

    Cheers

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