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    wow you work hard reminds me of algenpfleger not bad man

    my Sketchbook plz help me become a better artist !

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanaga View Post
    It's like drawing with a pencil wearing cooking gloves
    Ahahahaha!
    Had the same feeling when I started. Clean linework is really easier with a pen!

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    nice sketchbook vanaga, it's great to see you doing so many figure studies. And the rest of your studies are looking great too. keep up the hard work!

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    Woot! 3rd page!
    Woot! so many comments!

    MarcSampson: ou, don't compare me with such a legend I'm working super lazy compared to him. But thanks anyways. I'll go check you SB, to see what have you done during this time
    Shapter: I really hope that this feeling will go away after some time
    Thanks Leo_7, will go to check your SB.

    Not much done. It's so hard to stop lurking through CA.org and draw

    - figures from yesterday
    - walked my dog and took the little sb with me [must learn perspective asap]
    - figures from today

    Is there any exercise how to improve line quality, or just have to draw and it will improve itself?

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    Awesome work! Loving the dedication you have. You're making me feel bad! I.MUST.DRAW.MORE! ^^;

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    Loving the architecture studies!
    As for line quality, I learned about this exercise somewhere which is supposed to allow you to draw more expressive, flowing confident linework: You take a big piece of paper (or PS canvas) and just draw big circles and lines without thinking or worrying. On paper it works better because you can really use arm motions, but on PS it works quite well too.
    It helped me a lot, personally, so it could be something to try out ^_^

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    Hellllllo everybody!

    Thanks twilightmoon777, work hard, that's the way to awesomeness.
    Hey cloudcan! Huge thanks for the tip, exactly what I wanted to hear. Must try that out now.

    Today worked on a perspective thingy until my eyes started to hurt.
    Was reading a book from here: Perspective made easy and did some exercises on A4 paper. Took all day.
    After that tried to draw a room interior from a reference picture.

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    hey nice job on the perspective work. I see you put in a lot of effort on that last one it looks awesome.

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    Great sketchbook man, I will hit the anatomy books as well, good to see someone putting in the time for it and making some nice progress

    Only crit I could make is about your line, especially when working with pencil you seem to have short jagged lines rather than longer, flowing ones. You could probably improve that by drawing BIG, anything with organic curvy shapes, and make it a point to follow the shape in one stroke, not many short ones. Just keep following (with soft lines at first) until you "get" the shape of the line, from end to end.

    So I mean draw like a 1 meter orange or something, for practice

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    Leo_7: Yeah that last one took the longest time. Thanks for checking out
    calin4thewin: Would be great to see your anatomy studies. Can't say how thankful I am about your crit. I'm struggling with those short lines all the time, even with tablet. I will definitely try to draw some huge things on my A3 paper to improve that as much as I can. Thanks! Really!

    Was drawing and reading all day.
    - Took my old photo album and sketched the people I know. Superfun.
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    - Went to art store and bought acrylic colors, brushes and palette. Expected that they will be 1/2 cheaper
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    - Was reading Betty Edwards colors book. Tried out mixing colors for the 1st time in my life. Did a color wheel and seasons. Can you tell which is which season?
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    - Daily figures, tried to draw with longer line. Very hard!
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    - Went out with my dog and took with me the little sb again:
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    Was watching movies, reading and drawing all day. It's so good to be on a vacation

    - Was thirsty for something more finished. Now on monitor I can see, that nose is too long, which leads to too long face
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    - Tried out to put down the gesture lines and only then add some volume. Must practice [a lot] more. Ink.
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    - Crappy imagination
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    - A long time haven't studied anatomy
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    Umm, back on the full time job, so nothing much done :/ Only a lot of reading and researching stuff about painting. Created some more black and white color wheels, but they are boring [and wrong] so I'll skip that.

    - Tiny Kchen studies and sketches from life. Sorry for the awful quality
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    - For the 1st time worked on such a big paper as A3, it was fun. But then I gave another chance for the pastels... and I think I will never work with pastels again
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    Slowly starting to fall in love with my wacom
    Statue dude, 40min - yeah, very long time and result is still so rough.
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    Great updates!! I'm loving the studies dude!! And I think it's great that you're trying traditional media. (I want to too but I'm saving up money for food haha) You've improved so much in just one page, I'm so jelly. I guess, the only thing would be, to try and keep being confident with your values and strokes. Keep it up man!

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    Cloudcan: yeah those paints are so expensive and also they are very hard to master. Thanks for crit, I will hit the asses of those lines and values

    Bridgeman stuff... and the dog who doesn't let me to draw, want's to play all the time
    Also did a 60sec posemaniacs, but will not bore you with those.
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    Figures stuff...
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    Screenshot from awesome movie Apocalypto [1,5h maybe]. Colors suck. When I stepped 2 meters back from my monitor, I saw how awful are those values. Must practice color theory a lot more.
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    Thanks for stopping by my sketchbook and dropping some kind words! I see that you are putting in some really good work with your studies as well, do keep it up! I go through long periods where I don't draw at all, and coming back from that is always so frustrating, just gotta keep pushing like you are.

    Just in case I don't see you back in my thread I'll also post my reply from there here if that's ok:

    Thanks for your comments vanaga, I appreciate it! Glad I'm able to inspire you any amount at all, keep it up! In the end it all comes down to just doing the work and pushing yourself constantly. Which I don't do, but I'm trying!

    I don't really have a secret for the hatching, I'm just learning as well and still have a long way to go. In a nutshell, I block out my shadow areas based on the light source or ref and fill them with parallel strokes, and then try to follow forms without flattening them or making it look weird. I just remembered something I read in Harold Speed's book, which you should get if you haven't, it's great! I'll quote it here:

    lines of shading drawn across the forms suggest softness, lines drawn in curves fulness of form, lines drawn down the forms hardness, and lines crossing in all directions so that only a mystery of tone results, atmosphere.
    I'd try to keep that in mind when doing the hatching. Just that one sentence helped me a great deal. I have to pick that book up again for a refresher!

    Thanks again, cheers!
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    the screenshot is really good.. about line quality ofc there is theory and exercises but it will come anyway.. try to vary your pressure more then you can do 2 things for flow make a very messy sketch without thinking about ANYTHING just go crazy with the lines

    for a clean line try to make a normal sketch then reduce opac and trace it

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    You have some really nice studies there lady, I'd like to see some of the acrylics planted in a work!

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    Dman! Thanks for that gold sentence I wrote it down in my sketchbook, and will try to keep it in mind every time when I hatch. Thanks for uncovering your secret
    Thanks Marc for the tip, will try to use that method.
    Thanks Kerah. Yeah you are right, I would also like to see those acrylics used more seriously, ha ha Will try to brush away the dust of them.

    Tried the Auto tone on that screener. Can you see the difference? Ha ha. That's how much my values suck!
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    Must kick those values, so here goes the quick still life. About 1h. Yeah, that's "quick" for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanaga View Post
    Is there any exercise how to improve line quality, or just have to draw and it will improve itself?
    It will likely improve somewhat as your pencil miles rack up; however you can get better faster if you do deliberate practice.

    You probably already know how to draw better lines right now. Slow down, and concentrate on them.... use your whole arm in the motion.

    So pick some subject (anything really) and draw it over and over, with a focus on line quality--that is, slowing down, concentrating, and using your whole arm.

    The point is, you're thinking about it, so you're in control. After a while, you'll get used to simply drawing better lines and and later you won't even have to think about it. The improvement will have happened.

    You can practice any aspect of drawing this way, and it works.

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    P_sage: Massive thanks for the advice, I will definitely try out this concentration deliberate practice for several times.

    This is so cool! All my life I was thinking that you can't learn to draw without going to some art school. But thanks to this great community people, it's possible to feel like in a school... people are looking at your art, giving some advices... that's priceless

    Unfortunately haven't done much lately, because of obsession to digital sculpturing with ZBrush in last days

    Figures. This time was trying to stop and really analyze the figure and going slow. I don't know if there is any difference, but it took a lot of time.
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    Fast sketch on A3 paper. I don't know what I will do with it, maybe color with pencils or acrylics.
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    Post some of your zbrush works ? I'd love to see them as well

    Last figures look very accurate in terms of proportion, contour etc. I think some places though you took too much time trying to shade and made it muddy (like the girl's backside for example) Good that you are doing long studies as well as short, though!
    And I really like that last sketch you did, has some sort of attitude about it xD can't wait to see what you'll do with it.

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    Great improvement so far in your SB! LOVE the latest pics you've posted, the figure studies especially - The style really appeals to me! Keep going

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    Hey there.

    Its wonderful to see you are still going strong with your studies. I like the figure studies... lot of improvement

    Keep drawing !!

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    Cloudcan! Thanks for the feedback on those figures, I will keep that in mind. Thanks for the good words also Do you also draw in Zbrush? I will try to put my zbrush stuff on next time, they are in other PC.
    jdem, thank you! Glad to hear that you like some of my stuff.
    fenixx, I'm so glad that you are back! We have a lot of stuff common, we both were away from drawing for some time [althought not a good thing], we both are back here, and both started to draw on Zbrush.

    Rrrr, haven't done much again.

    Silly tattoo on A3 paper. Wanted to color with acrylics. But I don't know what is wrong with me lately, usually I finish what I have started.
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    Loomis leg, must put on some muscles. And watched Vilppu arm video.
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    Some arms on A3 paper. All from ref. Felt that I learned not only arm, but also line started to get better a little.
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    Awesome arm studies. I have yet to deal with them... and I think part of the reason I haven't is because its scares me
    And yes ! your lines have become much more cleaner

    Post some Zbrush work here yea ?

    And it is weird. We even have the same number of posts

    Also, while studying anatomy, do you remember the names of the muscles ? If not, try to. At least the ones that matter, helps a lot in understanding them.

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    I downloaded zbrush but haven't gotten to trying it yet.. lazy me. >_<
    Loving that tat design.. not silly at all. I wouldn't worry about 'finishing' it, it will come when it comes .. or so it has been in my experience. Though I'm not the best person to listen to in this case, haha
    Great arm studies too, I love how much your lines have improved. You inspire me to keep at it xD

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    fenixx, thanks! Don't be afraid of those arms, they aren't that bad, just dooooo ittttttt!
    And no, I'm not remembering those names, just the numbers from bridgeman book to know which is which from different angles Learning Latin would just keep me away from anatomy studies
    cloudcan, ha ha, you made me lough about this "Though I'm not the best person to listen to in this case,..."
    And about the zbrush, it was the same with me, too lazy to learn it, but was lucky enough to meet a guy who knows a lot about it.

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    Screenshot study, 1h.
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    Tonight got my hands on charcoal pencils for the first time. Kinda like them, but must practice a lot more.
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    hey vanaga, thanks for the replies in my sketchbook. I love the tattoo on the A3 paper and the lines on the arm sketches look great. It looks like you're really making alot of progress with tons of studies you do.

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    Allright, just a quick update, before I run off.
    I'll be away on a business trip to Sweden for a week. I'll take my sketchbook with me, in hope that I will have some free time to draw a little.

    Leo, thanks dude. I have a lot of stuff to say you about the latest drawings you have made, but unfortunately I need to get some sleep before the trip. But I'll do some paintowers as soon as I can, promise.

    Only couple pictures again. Rrrr must draw more, I'm so lazy.

    After big disapointment about the imagination poop, switched to drawing from life
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    Figures... Ughhh, not so daily anymore as used to be >
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