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August 31st, 2010 #1
AbNorMaLLy's SkeTches - Please Help me Improve! Update!
Hi, I'm Abnormally, I'm new here and hope to improve my skills and have fun. I have a passion for drawing and enjoy doing it from my imagination, mostly. I am self-taught and don't have much technical training via personal study, although I hope to do more in the future. I'm inspired by music, politics, literature and things that are important to society and the preservation of culture. I am slowly learning new skills to help me express these things, I hope this site will help.
I don't do digital art, and have never ventured into that realm. I'm a fan of traditional graphite, charcoal, pen (bics are fun), chalks and dry pastels, markers, acrylic, watercolor, collage/multi-media, and colored pencils. I like to try out different styles and experiment!
I know I will receive comments to study anatomy, perspective, value, proportions and the like, any constructive criticism is welcome, so please post often and help guide this n00bie to personal improvement! I value your artistic opinions and hope to make a few friends along the way. Peace!
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Hi Abnormally, I'm in the same boat as you, just grab a PDF from one of those guys- Loomis, Bridgeman etc. and start looking at those bones n muscles!
More importantly though, feel free to pick-and-choose elements of books and other media to use, because personally I find it very difficult to just stick to one in terms of reference..! E.g- There are some things that will help show how the muscle works when strained, and some others that won't so much.
Also personally, I would study only one area of the body at a time in terms of the indepth study- lest get horribly confused. D8 (Right now for example, I'm doing arms and arm muscles. Not going to so much as TOUCH anything else.. unless it happens to flow from an arm lol). A bit at a time, that way you stand more of a chance actually remembering all the muscles as a whole later, right? Bite-size the studies!
Work with Gesture studies as well, on the 30 second feature on Posemaniacs- that way you will be able to apply your first studies quickly and efficiently to a whole body form. Don't worry about how the Gestures 'look' per se, they are there to help you capture the pose of the figure in a swift flick on the pen/pencil.
Lots of people here willing to give hands, so don't be afraid to speak up Also I'm fairly new here meself- to proper studies that is- so I'm just speaking from experience I guess. Hope it made some sense, take or leave!
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August 31st, 2010 #4
Thank you AjaxDynamoDroid, I have a few books on anatomy, I know I just find technical studies dull at times...unfortunately, but I get into grooves where I dig it.
ps. Does anyone know how to get my thumbnail for my sketchbook?
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August 31st, 2010 #5
Technical study IS horribly dull at times D: Which is why I think Gestures will really help to finish them off with. That, and repeating the study with flowing movements and building up in shapes- easier since you've already done it once. Keeps it less slow and plodding that way, or at least it may find a way of sustaining that momentum? xD; Since there's no point in sitting down and drawing lots and lots out in one bulk- I for one couldn't concentrate for that long..
Also for the thumbnail, I -think- you just make an attachment post in the very first post. I had one but got rid of it, and it blanked out. So I thought it might work backwards, lol.
Also wow, excellent stuff here! I'm liking the portraits, and the sense of style and surrealism in some of these hehe. Looking gooood!
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August 31st, 2010 #6
Hey thanks again AjaxDynamoDroid my brothah! Figured out the thumbnail thing. Gonna go check out your sketchies when I have time.
I'm a huge fan of Dali, so I love surrealism! peace!
Last edited by Abnormally; August 31st, 2010 at 09:01 PM.
September 1st, 2010 #7
I agree with Ajax on doing anatomy studies, gesture studies, etc. But also life studies will do you well
I love your comicy/cartoony work, especially the surreal look
Dali also inspires me greatly. My first two tattoos are inspired from his vision of how ants are the grim reaper of the world
Your work inspires ME ;]
The trees and body studies look wonderful, more more more!
The 9th page in your first post with the actual showing of your work is WOWWWWW, that face/hair is beautiful. The fruit looks good enough to eat!
I would most definitely like to see more life studies of fruit and maybe some self portraits or drawings of your family/friends, if you can find anyone to sit still long enough :p
I think gestures would help loosen you up in the beginning of the day before you start drawing more tightly. Plus, gestures are quite fun!
Portfolio Help: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=274228
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September 2nd, 2010 #8
I'll try to go and do some quick studies of gestures and poses etc. Thank you for the advice! Hopefully will have some updates later tonight!
Thanks again Color, you encourage me!
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September 2nd, 2010 #10
Inspector - thank you I worked quite awhile on that one!
I have loomis books in pdf and some great anatomy books to boot!
So I tried a digital piece out of boredom from this site: Harmony which I found through Naidy's sketchbook. This site is addictive and fun...not sure about digital art for me, but hey this site seems fun, try it out!
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September 2nd, 2010 #13Whiny Bitch
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Ah crap lost all the text I wrote.
I like that even though you like patterns and stylization that you realize the importance of real life studies. I think you should use a bit more contrast, some of your work is a bit light. I really like your latest pic, very artsy. ) That's fairly rare out here.
Harmony is great fun.
Keep up the great work.
September 2nd, 2010 #14
Hey there, thanks for dropping by!
You've got a nice comic surrealism going there, I'd stick to that and keep developing it further. However, you don't want to suffer tunnel vision. The broader the range of style you can apply freely, the better off you are as an artist; especially if you're looking to make a profession out of your art.
What hucumkedi most likely means by brave lines is that you need to steady your hand more and really think about the line that you are about to put down. Focus on getting more done while doing less, i.e. do more with less lines. Avoid "scratchy" lines.
As far as the resources that I use go, I'm currently using Bridgeman, Lemen, and Vilppu as my main sources of study. They are all great sources to turn to if you're interested in drawing the human figure. Another person I have to mention is Andrew Loomis. You really don't get much better than those four when it comes to drawing the human figure. Some people use Burne Hogarth as a reference but I think his style of drawing interferes too much with learning the figure. This, however, is just my opinion.
Keep up the good work!
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September 2nd, 2010 #17
Please, everyone forgive my lack of technical terminology
Greywoods - Thank you That is helpful, do you mean lighter portions mixed with darker to add more contrast? Your words are kind!
Mr. Pryminista - Such a helpful and thoughtful post, thank you...I try not to get 'tunnel vision' however I'm just so drawn to that style I can't help myself, really have to get some technical studies done. You're too kind for the compliments, and very helpful with the resources. I'll come bug you once and awhile for some feedback on my hopeful anatomy studies.
Hukumkedi - Thank you, someone close to me who is a visual artist said I need to 'loosen' my hand a bit, I suppose I am a bit nervous about lines and too free with them, darken them and rely on them too much.
Brahimpag - Thank you for visiting I love drawing with pen, I will keep it up. Draw or cry myself to sleep at night haha!
September 2nd, 2010 #18
Barcsay is good. I have that book myself. I wouldn't use it right away if you're starting out. It can be a bit much at first. It's a good resource to utilize later, once you've really built up your draftsman skills. The most accesible of those that I mentioned, in my opinion, is the Vilppu Drawing Manual. Find a way to get your hands on it. Very accessible and very useful.
September 2nd, 2010 #19
Grooovy artwork, the pencil work is strikingly fluid in most of the pieces. Would love to see some landscape sketches, and then draw some more objects and people. Many people here had some form of art direction from taking an art course, and like myself, we also seek for other's approval of their work. The key to drawing well is drawing lots, if you've drawn a square cube in every possible angle, your next drawing of a cube will be that much better.
Insert very insightful quotes here ...
- get back to work!
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September 2nd, 2010 #20
Mr. Pryminista - I Have PDF files of Loomis, Vilppu and Bridgeman, not too keen on Bridgeman's style, although he seems popular around here, so I'll get crackin' soon. Thanks again!
Strings - Thank you for visiting and the great critique and compliments, no formal art training unfortunately, but hey I do it because I love it. I just got into drawing landscapes actually, so you'll see more of those, as well as drawing people from life. Thanks and take care! I will practice as often as I can.
Here's a few quick updates:
-finished the NY cityscape dude
-then just a doodle I did today
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September 3rd, 2010 #21
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I can tell you draw for the sake of having fun
always keep that with you. keep having fun draw anything and everything
one crit I would consider is working on construction
when construction is nailed render gets easier
Keep it up looking forward to seeing progress
sketchbook updated October 6th
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September 3rd, 2010 #23
Thank you OmertA, will work on that, great crit and helpful. I think the fun of it brings the soul into it.. Living and breathing art is more essential than technical skills in my opinion and I respect artists who do that.
I tend not to 'think' about what I'm going to draw before I do it, I just start doing it...I need more discipline and planning around this. Thank you again.
September 4th, 2010 #24
got some nice stuff going on in here, pretty much everything has been said, study study study, but always have fun. can't wait to see more
September 4th, 2010 #25Whiny Bitch
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Yeah, I mostly meant that it would be nice if your lines were a bit darker. : ))
But you are correct - having a winder nuance spectrum would certainly do the trick also.
September 4th, 2010 #26
Lang Oulk - Thank you for visiting! new stuff coming soon
Greywoods - Thank you, makes sense, I'll work on that!
Here are some Vilppu studies I started today...this is harder than I thought. I will keep at it. Then a portrait I'm working on in brand new Moleskine! ...
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September 5th, 2010 #27
cool stuff man..keep it coming...just keep working on that anatomy and proportion stuff....
September 6th, 2010 #28
very good keep up with villpu and youlbecome very very good
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September 6th, 2010 #29
I like the nonfigurative stuff, but - as others already said - doing studies is also important. You say you don't tend to think about what you're going to draw before you actually draw it. Been there, done that. Imho you can have fun doing non-planned scribbles but that's not the way of improvement. Having a plan - even if the most vague plan - of what you want to draw, and what you want to achieve with a given drawing (and what you want to learn from it) is the basis of any improvement.
"Try again, fail again,fail better!"Samuel BeckettSketchbook
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