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    Question Mac or PC, which should I buy?

    Hello all, I've got a burning question.

    I have been running Photoshop and a Wacom Intuos 3 on my laptop for some years now. Well lately my laptop of six years is bogging down and the constant battle between my laptop keyboard and Wacom tablet is out of control. The screen is only 15 inches and not the best quality. So it is time to upgrade I think.

    So the burning question is as the title says: Mac or PC, which should I buy?

    I have long heard the a Mac is the way to go for digital art, is this true? If so, why?

    Is a PC acceptable? A selling point for a PC is that I already own Photoshop CS for it. If I go with a pc, should I get a tower or a laptop. Either way I would have dual monitors.

    Thanks all

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    We're not in 1994 anymore, both platforms are fine. Good components make the computer, it's really up to you.

    As for laptops they all have TN panels and therefore awful quality for color work, even the +$1500 ones, save a few tablet PC's which have IPS panels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bd_art View Post
    I have long heard the a Mac is the way to go for digital art, is this true? If so, why?
    Because mac buyers need a reason to defend their purchase.

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    Buy a mac if you want to pay more for the same hardware. That is the situation it is now since they swapped over to intel chips. Oh and Apples corporate motto ought to be "Pay More get Less Freedom"
    I just came off of a 5 year Mac addiction, I went back to PC for several reasons one of them being the most obvious, I would just have to run bootcamp on mac anyway to use some of the software I was starting to learn 5 years ago.

    Buy what fits your budget and your needs, neither is any better or worse than the other. Just the prestige is different.

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    Either, I'd say, although I've only ever owned a PC. A PC is perectly acceptable for digital art. I use mainly Photoshop, Painter and recently a few 3D programs. With many of the updates, there have been issues with the Mac OS. And of course a few excellent painting programs are Windows only.

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    Go PC and use the difference in cost to move up to CS5.

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    OK, so PC it is!
    Thanks for the quick replies.
    And thanks to Portus for pointing out IPS monitors.

    Funny, I get the impression of backlash on Apple. Are they falling out of favor?

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    As per my opinion, PC is the best option against Mac. Because, if any problem will arise than you can get instant solution for that. Also, it is widely used so there is no problem at all. It is the best option for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bd_art View Post
    OK, so PC it is!
    Thanks for the quick replies.
    And thanks to Portus for pointing out IPS monitors.

    Funny, I get the impression of backlash on Apple. Are they falling out of favor?
    They're not really falling out of favor, but bashing macs are really all the rage at the moment. Not sure what caused it, but it seems there's just a huge amount of haters out there.

    I'm a huge mac fan (because I do audio work mostly, and pc's are crap at that compared to macs) but I choose to go with my PC for graphics apps. It's basically due to the fact that there's more software for the PC these days. And graphics apps don't really demand anything from the hardware or the OS. Where audio interfacing is absolutely horrible on the PC (drivers dropping out every once in a while, that sort of stuff) and rock solid on the mac - You really get none of that with graphics apps. It's not like your gfx card will just crap out a few times a day on either platform.

    The "same hardware bladibla more costly" arguement the pc users claim is kind of bogus, though. If you have no need for a good mouse / keyboard combo, or a decent monitor or wlan or webcam, then yes, that arguement is valid. But if you're going to go the "equal hardware" route, you have to put that stuff into the equation. the macs have awesome mouse and keyboard. They have very nice monitors, and they have decent built in sound, wifi, and webcam.

    But again. iMac or PC, depends on how fancy you want your desktop to look and what kind of software you want to use. I'd still go for a PC no matter how much I love macs. If you know how to build computers, or know a dude who can build one for you free/cheap, build a PC with crappy keyboard/mouse and no wifi and just save on anything but CPU and Ram, and get yourself a Cintiq 12WX or something. That way you won't even need a monitor. And you'll come out at about the same price as an iMac or a low to mid range gamer PC.


    edit: Forgot to add that if you go for a mac, get the apple care package with it. Can't remember what the price is, but it is worth it. If you're unlucky and your mac craps out, the apple care thing basically lets you chuck your mac in the door at the nearest apple store and they fix it post haste free of charge. I've had nothing but good experience with that plan, but I'm sure it varies from store to store.

    Last edited by cassus; September 7th, 2010 at 01:57 PM. Reason: forgot to mention something
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassus View Post
    They're not really falling out of favor, but bashing macs are really all the rage at the moment. Not sure what caused it, but it seems there's just a huge amount of haters out there.
    There's a fair amount of reasons for the Mac "bashing".

    I think that since people now can build their own PCs and make more choices with what they want, it can cause an unfavorable response towards (macs in) a more cost conscious market.

    There are those that don't feel a "we know what's best for you" attitude that Apple sometimes brings.

    That being said there is something said for the stability of certain programs like Photoshop on a Mac. But as you said as the range of software choices and especially nice freeware out there are more dominant on the PC market than Mac it's not surprising that the lines have definitely blurred since the mid to late 90's on what platform is best.

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    Yeah, I'm not really doubting people having their reasons for bashing macs, but it's really fashionable right now, and everyone is joining in. Especially guys who never used a mac in the first place. That was what I ment when I said it was fashionable.

    Can't really go wrong either way, but if you want to get the most out of your money, try to do what I said earlier by going for a good cpu (AMD will be your best bet for saving money, the new 6core cpu's are pretty cheap, as are the older 4 core cpus, 965 black is what I have now, and I can run all painting apps totally smooth with no stuttery brushes until I reach a brush size of 250+ on very demanding brushes.) and some nice ram (I have 4 gigs of 1000mhz ram) and then consider a cintiq instead of an ordinary display.
    I got the cintiq 12WX myself, and initially I thought it was going to be too small, cause it really is quite petite, but it's very capable. Once the new 21UX'es stop being sold out everywhere I might sell my 12 and get one of those just for the intuos 4 tech. Seems quite a lot of people are doing this, and because of that there are LOTS of used 12WX'es being sold, so you might strike a hell of a deal on a used one right now.

    Anyways, hope you find some of this useful. Have fun creating

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassus View Post
    Yeah, I'm not really doubting people having their reasons for bashing macs, but it's really fashionable right now, and everyone is joining in. Especially guys who never used a mac in the first place. That was what I ment when I said it was fashionable.
    Odd, I don't see this. I only see the usual amount of people who like or dislike Macs. There isn't some "fashionable" trend. I have known people doing this for a fair amount of years now and that includes those who have never owned a mac.

    AMDs are okay (I'm not bashing AMD because they are great for a bargain). If you're going for 2d illustration there's no problem with it. 6cores really doesn't make this radical difference. 4 cores actually doesn't do much either. Mainly because most 2d illustration programs aren't taking advantage of multi cores. In fact, there's been a number of reports of CS5 users having issues with AMD chips. They have also bombed against the icore due to threading tech. AMDs still seem to be the fastest at running games.

    As I've said to people before, a new computer (clean install) is generally a fast computer. It only slows down due to poor housekeeping, and this goes for AMD and Intel. I only recommend Quads for future investment reasons, but if someone wants to use a Dual Core processor for just running things like Painter and PS they'll be fine. It's more of the investment for 5 years as tech progresses.

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    I ran a Mac for 5-6 years and was constantly frustrated with the dearth of software for it. There were applications I was used to using in WIN that there was no equivalent in Mac. Additionally when I was going to get a new system, I really had a lot of trouble paying a much higher rate for the same hardware and then ultimately the experience of "push a button and it works". All that did was dumb me down it seems, I have to relearn a ton of computer related things now because I never had to deal with them on mac. Terrible situation I tell you!

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