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    Advice for getting out of a slump?

    Hello, first off I'm new to conceptart. Since I was very little, I have been very passionate about art and knew my dream was becoming an artist. Today, after 2 years of community college I hope to major in Illustration.

    for 2 years of highschool I was in a bad depression state and effected my drawing. Not that I NEVER drew.. but I wasn't drawing enough. I was in a Private High School for those two years and my Art Classes weren't teaching me enough as well. We weren't learning the correct fundamentals of art, anatomy etc. The two years we were concentrating too much on making Prints...and I learned nothing.

    I went to a new Highschool, Art classes much better. My teachers have told my parents behind my back that I have a RAW talent for art but I need to learn new techniques..but anyways going to a new school I saw how much more talented the students in my class were and I felt VERY discouraged which deepened my art slump. After realizing if I don't draw and practice..I'll never get better. Which leads to my problem. I never draw anymore now because I still fear I'm not good enough. Whenever I try to draw nothing come sout right. I have trouble with anatomy, drawing poses and drawing the images that appear in my mind. I don't know what to do about this, and I come to ask for your advice on this matter. It's also made me lazy with drawing. Don't get my wrong, I want to be an Illustrator VERY badly and I see myself being so lazy with my art and never drawing anymore due to the frustration of hating whatever I start to draw. But I know that if I DON'T draw..I'll NEVER succeed.

    I'm wondering if any of you have been int he situation in your life and what got you out of your slump. And maybe any advice you have for me. Thanks for reading and I apologize if this is in the wrong section. I'm very willing to learn and take your advice. Thank you.


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    Drawing did.

    "I'm very willing to learn and take your advice."
    Then draw something sucky today, make a sketchbook in our sketchbook section, and post it as proof. No matter how bad you are right now, someone here started off worse!

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    I was in a slump for 2 years and I got out of it fairly easily once I identified what the problem was. So I always tell everyone that if you are in one...stop drawing stuff to get better, just draw.

    Stop the life drawing and the studies and researching and perspective and all of that and just draw something that you are passionate about. Even if it's something completely stupid or silly that no one but you would appreciate. Art shouldn't be for anyone but you anyway at it's core. The only reason you should ever truly "get better" is if you intend to make a living at it.

    I honestly and truly believe that.
    If you want to be a professional artist, then yes...you will need to accept the pressure that comes with competing with other artists. But if you just want to "be an artist", then be one! Just draw and draw because it's a fun thing to do. Draw dumb comic characters and monsters and unicorns and nematoads and fairies. Draw whatever the fuck you want.

    Eventually, because you have spent so much time drawing because you are jazzed about it...you'll find that you are actually good. And THEN you can decide if you want start up on the studying and research to become BETTER.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiana View Post
    Drawing did.

    "I'm very willing to learn and take your advice."
    Then draw something sucky today, make a sketchbook in our sketchbook section, and post it as proof. No matter how bad you are right now, someone here started off worse!
    will do!

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    Let me know when it's up!

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    "Whenever I try to draw nothing comes out right."

    Then let it come out wrong and then look at it to see how you can improve it. That's the nice thing about drawing. You have an infinite number of retries! Put it in a drawer for a few weeks, take it out again and redo it.

    "drawing the images that appear in my mind."

    Don't try to draw the images that appear in your mind. Your brain cheats, and trying to copy what you imagine exactly is incredibly difficult and you will only find disappointment and frustration down this road. You want to know a secret? You don't know how close anybody else gets to that mental image they've got. If they complained about the vast difference to you you'd probably say "but who cares whether it matches the mental image? It looks great! So what if it's different!" But when it's YOUR mental image it bothers you.

    So just assume straight off that you can't use your brain like a reference photograph. Instead, try to note important things about the mental image (there's a red fish, it's got a black tattoo, it's winking at the viewer...) and then get some reference images, do up a bunch of different thumbnails and try to make the best red fish image you can without trying to match it to your mental image. Eventually you might end up with *better* pictures this way than those inside your head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by furiana View Post
    Drawing did.

    No matter how bad you are right now, everyone here started off equally bad!
    EFA. Once you realise that, and believe it, and look at any of the great artists who post here and elsewhere and understand they started out just like you, that will help. It won't necessarily become easy (I still hate 80% of what I produce, and despise 100% of all my sketch-work and preliminaries) but it will at least allow you to draw without fear.

    Fear... art... art... fear... that reminds me of something...

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    I was in a slump for 30 years. I really just needed a kick up the backside, which I finally gave myself. Just think you could have a wonderful career in accountancy for the next 30 years if you don't kick yourself quickly enough.

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    "I'm not drawing because I'm too scared what I draw will come out like crap even though I know the more I draw, the better I get."

    This sounds harsh but it is something I had to tell myself.

    Do you know how stupid that sounds? Like that whole idea makes no sense at all.

    What exactly are the negative consequences of working hard and drawing something that comes out bad or not as good as you had hoped? Besides letting it get your ego down...there are none I can think of. No one is going to go to your house or studio and kick your ass because you messed up a portrait. So why are you so afraid???

    Every pro used to suck. It isn't necessarily "talent" that makes a great artist. Artists become great through years of dedication, practice, experimentation, hard work, and passion.

    Like someone else said, just spend time drawing what you like for a while and your desire to turn your own ideas into something more will most likely lead to actual studying.

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    Thanks for all the advice guys. If I want to be professional some day..I need to suck it up and DRAW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty View Post
    Just draw and draw because it's a fun thing to do
    good advise, it is easily to forget when concentrating on all the technical aspects of drawing and painting. Have to remind myself constantly, too

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    When Im in a serious slump, to the point of getting depressed about it, I often look back at my older artwork, find something I like from a year or two ago. Than try and draw it again, but better! (I do this quite often too)
    It can show you how much you've improved since than, once youve seen it its a great moral booster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonobot View Post
    When Im in a serious slump, to the point of getting depressed about it, I often look back at my older artwork, find something I like from a year or two ago. Than try and draw it again, but better! (I do this quite often too)
    It can show you how much you've improved since than, once youve seen it its a great moral booster.
    I'm in a similar slump right now, so that's why I stumbled here n_n;; But really, I LOVE that idea! It sounds like such a self-esteem boost! I think I'll try that when I get down again C=

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    wow

    dude, you've literally described my last two years of art. it sucks. it hurts so, so bad. I have never been so depressed as I am now; it's like it has become a chore to be creative. Although, maybe it will help you to know that there are people (like me) who are going through it too. The truth is, I've allowed a lot of outside negative bullshit in my life get the best of me, and it's sapping my energy. It made me feel some hope to see this thread, and a little more to hear your story. Maybe my post will do the same for you. And this is some great advice everybody, very very helpful and supportive which is what the slump sufferers need. If there's one thing I can suggest to add to the list is try to avoid the negative mental talk. Even if you feel like you're lying to yourself, remind yourself that at one point you had the zeal, and that it's still inside of you, because the truth is that it's still there.

    I wish you the best of luck, and I think a sketchbook with any and all drawings, shitty, mediocre, or surprisingly good is a choice idea.

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    When ever I find myself in a slump it's because I'm not doing the work I'm inspired to do. There is probably something in your system you need to get out. Even if it's nothing special. Just friggin do it.

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    One thing that helps me immensely is to just draw on scratch paper. Get a ream of copy paper, nothing too expensive or massive, and go to town.

    One thing that tripped me up with having a sketchbook was the fear that it was going to be kept on my shelves as a journal FOREVER(!), and thus every page had to be a flawless work of art to be looked on with awe for posterity. Drawing on stray copy paper lets you keep what you want, toss/crumple/burn to ash what you don't like, and that can be very freeing.

    No pressure, no expectations. It's just you and the paper.

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    What's a slump? Keep drawing and stop complaining. You'll find your work improving despite your attempts at not improving.
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    Serrat That's good advice, I recently bought a moleskine but it took me ages to get started because of that fear of drawing crap in it, I got over that though when I misplace my 'messy' sketchbook and wanted to doodle.

    I'm also going through a block because I have 2 caricatures to do for folks and when I feel the pressure that's when I shut down so the other day i went to my local art gallery, which has a really cool watercolour exhibition on (luckily) and my god I've never sketched so much in half an hour. If there isn't a gallery in your area maybe try doing some master studies from artists who inspire you and that will more often than not fire up your inspiration.

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    Dusty's got some solid advice. Draw what makes you happy.

    Edit: ...damn.
    Last edited by Two Listen; July 27th, 2010 at 11:28 AM.

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    Damn, I thought I was the only one with irrational sketchbook habits/fears!

    I hate the first page; I draw from the back! I convince myself that the first page is going to have to be the best thing in the book.
    But its not like you can ever pre-empt how good your drawing will be, although it's easy to feel like the drawing you produce needs to live up to standards, which is an awful habit to have but I think everyone gets it every so often.

    And when there's pressure, it's easy to become a rage-fuelled perfectionist goblin!

    I don't even want to know how many times I've gotten upset and stressed over important work, but in times like that I just take time out, put the kettle on, run a bubble bath, then continue my work in front of a TV so it doesn't feel like work. Make yourself comfortable! When you're happy and relaxed you're a million times more likely to produce a better quality of work.

    Its not healthy to compare yourself to your peers or other artists - you should be the only competition. If you've given it your all, be proud of yourself. If you feel like you could do even better, don't just instantly start again and get mad when it doesn't look any better - take another approach.

    Remember:
    If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got.

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    Just draw and paint and worry more about improving a little every day than about achieving perfection. Once you achieve perfection, where do you go next?

    I married an artist, and the moment we married, I stopped drawing and painting. don't know why; I just did. Started again a few years ago and I don't beat myself up about meeting his or anyone else's standards except my own.

    Don't strive for perfection, strive for improvement in baby steps, and be smart enough to know when you're achieving that.

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