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    Hi everyone, National Portfolio Day is coming up this Saturday and I am freaking out on what to show. What types of pieces you recommend bringing to a portfolio review? Especially if you're interested in the CA program?


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    Quote Originally Posted by justobserve View Post
    Hi everyone, National Portfolio Day is coming up this Saturday and I am freaking out on what to show. What types of pieces you recommend bringing to a portfolio review? Especially if you're interested in the CA program?
    figure drawings, sill lives, self portraits, drawing showing perspective,etc

    anything from life is good

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    I second what yyates05 is saying, draw from life as much as possible and have as many figure studies as you can, they really want to see that you can draw motion well

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    I got back from the open house at Ringling today, and I have to say that the programs seem absolutely fantastic there. I would really love to attend if I could. The only thing that really worries me is the cost of the school. How does one go about paying for an art school like Ringling without breaking the bank?

    From what I understand so far, there's financial aid (of course), but there's a limit to that, and whatever financial aid doesn't cover is paid through scholarships, grants, and loans. I'm sure that I could get some scholarships, but probably not enough to cover whatever is left, which is where the loans would come in, right?

    After coming out of the financial aid conference today and hearing that the "average" debt that a student leaves from the school with is about 45,000... my heart plummeted. Moreover, the speaker went on to explain that having a job while going to school at Ringling doesn't really work very well, what with the difficult curriculum and all ( which is understandable), but I don't know how else to pay if I can't work to earn the money? Are there any alumni that can give an idea of how they paid through school?

    I figured it would be okay to post these questions here, since it pertains to Ringling, but if it's not okay, I apologize. *Newbie*

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    hey mischavie, i'm no alumni, i'm just another hopeful, so i can't be of too much help, and any information i give may be wrong,

    but from what i read and understand, basically you are expected to go into a bit of debt no matter what you do. I think summers are off, at least for certain programs, again i'm not an alumni, in fact i've never been within 30 miles of the school, so i think you could get summer jobs, though later on i believe many successful students have used that time to travel and or intern. Unless you come from money or have someone willing to pay for you, i think you are simply going to be in debt; but from what i understand, an art education is one of the most expensive no matter what school you go to.
    a friend of mine is actually a senior at ringling CA program, he kind of made me look into the school (thank you paul), but he was in debt before attending, so once he got in he basically figured that no matter what he'd be in debt, so he went for it. The education and sleepless nights are worth it. He says he wouldn't change going into debt at ringling at all (though he might change not going to ringling sooner).

    on another note, i missed the open house. so how was it? did you meet other hopefuls? What is that area of florida like? I'm a jersey boy, i like what the school produces but i've only been to florida once and that was to see disney land (or disney world, which ever one is in florida), so any info you can give would be nice. If i can get into ringling, i really don't care what it looks like but it might be nice to know the area from someone who saw it recently for open house reasons.
    and anyone who wants to answer any of the above stated questions; You are more than welcome to.

    anyway, my understanding, is that you take out a huge loan (or set of loans), spiral into debt, but get an awesome education, then like a doctor, live off ramen in a roach infested one closet apartment for several years while you pay off your debt. Good thing art isn't about becoming rich huh?
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    Hmm, thanks for responding, Themegagod.

    I understand that on one hand, it's really good to go to an art school despite the high price because of the experience one can gain from attending there (IE: networking, great education taught by professional artists, etc.), but I'm not sure I want to get stuck with such a large debt, especially considering how hard it is to get a job in today's sucky economy. I wouldn't mind going to a regular 4-year college to study art, but I'm having a very hard time finding a university nearby that has a good illustration program — I might not be looking hard enough, I guess.

    As far as Ringling is concerned, I think the school is wonderful. Most of the students I've met there were very nice (they helped us when we got lost a few times, lol) and the professors there all seemed very passionate about what they taught. Needless to say, the work produced by the students there are — without a doubt — professional. Overall, I'd say that the school has a very strong sense of an art community — everyone takes what they do seriously while enjoying it, too. That's probably the biggest reason why I'd personally want to go... to be surrounded by fellow artists who you can learn from and by inspired by. It's that kind of school environment that motivates you to do more, you know?

    Now, I know some people are suckers for how the campus "looks," so I will be honest and say that if a person wants to go to a school for a beautiful campus, this location is not for that person. It's not exactly the high-end art school you'd imagine, what with how much money a student pays to go there, but they are still adding on to the school, so who knows how it will look as time progresses? Moreover, it's located in Sarasota, which is a very nice city. Not extravagant, by any means, but still pleasing (namely because of the waterfront buildings).

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    I just received a beautiful 1-inch thick, hard backed, 257 page promotional book in the mail from Ringling. It really is well designed, but my first thought was how much the school must have spent to make these??? This is on top of several other thick pamphlets that came only weeks ago. The tuition could be lowered if it weren't for these things!!

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    Yeah, my same thought when i received my book from ringling. I thought it was some type of mini-textbook i didn't know i ordered at first. i'm used to these tiny 50 pg pamphlets that say "join our school" not a whole book; but i was happy to get it. I keep it in with my reading books, as though it's a real book. it feels like one, it looks like one, so it must be.

    Not to sound ignorant, but from looking at your gallery Lane, you already go to school. if you don't mind my asking why are you getting books from ringling? are you transferring in? Either way you have some good art, i'm just being nosy.
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    I was at open house too! (giving tours and working on the CA/GAD floor).

    Yeah, debt's a big concern with a lot of people here. And wow, if that's the average debt I'm way out of the average, and I'm on scholarships.... A lot of people go in on it with the idea that they'll be prepared with the necessary skills to go out and enter the industry right after graduation - that's why I'm here. It's a hard risk to take, but at the same time it's an investment in your future - so invest wisely. Not only are we talking about money, we're also talking about four years of your life.

    A word about the Ringling catalog...
    The catalog is the school's primary publication. It's how they reach all you guys who want to know about the school, so it's nice that put the extra effort for you guys. That said, it probably is a bit more expensive to produce than other schools' catalogs (most of the art schools' catalogs are just as thick anyways, but I've noticed that Ringling is rather image oriented beyond that). The catalogs used to be paper back too but they switched to hardback in 2007 I think.... Although... for Ringling the catalog is more than just a way to get the word and work out to prospective students, it's something they really pride themselves in and actually get awards for. All the print material that the school sends out is designed at the Design Center on campus and it's my understanding that it's staffed by a good amount of student interns too.

    http://www.facebook.com/ringlingcollegedesigncenter

    Also, I'm no expert on money managing, but don't just jump to the conclusion that tuition is paying for that stuff. It might be, I don't know, but I know tuition isn't the only source of money for the school and people keep an eye on what money pays for what (for example, the school's renovation of the old high school into a contemporary art museum is being funded entirely by donors, NONE of it is coming from the students).

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    Hey everyone, Ringling 2011 hopeful here too. Been lurking since the '09 thread, I remember so many people who have been helping applicants on CA.org since then! I'm actually just applying to some art schools this year to be familiar with the application process and know what I have to improve on in order to be admitted (hopefully ofc) after CC. Maybe even transfer in as a sophomore if there's room, who knows? we're a bit far from that now though at the current skill level haha, but hey, that's what practice is for. Reminder to everyone to get to looking for scholarships and grants already, even if you think it's too early! Ringling is expensive as hell, and there are thousands and thousands of kids out there looking for free money from companies and organizations. good luck everyone!

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    Artists' Retreat Supplies

    Hey all! I'm back again. After a very busy several weeks with Trig and my horses. I don't know if anyone else here is, but I'm going to the artist's retreat that's in North Carolina later this month. They send out a supply list based on what class you're taking, and I was able to get nearly all of my supplies at Hobby Lobby, of all places. But I have a problem! On the list it says:

    "Colored Conté of Paris Set of 12-24 colors. The more, the better. *Note:
    Avoid sets with neon and bright colors - choose neutral and natural colors."

    That's great we have advice on what kind of colors to go for, but... Conté of Paris makes all kinds of different pastels! I bought a set of pencil pastels, and another set of normal pastels that were in portrait (mostly skintone) shades. Anyone have any idea of what I should really have?
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    themegagod- I'm about to graduate with a graphic design degree from a local university. If there is one thing I've learned over these 4 years, it is that I DON'T want to do graphic design!! lol. It bores me to death. So I am looking into Ringling and other schools to see if I can find something in the entertainment field.

    Lizzybeth- You make some valid points about the catalog. It is very well designed, and if it does serve greater purposes than just marketing, then I'm sure the production costs are worth it.

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    @ themegagod: I was a Ringling 2011 hopefull illustration prog untill I got a FedEx from the school today....I got a place!!!! Then in about 5 seconds later I thought of the weight of the tuition fees my parents will carry. It does hit you hard. My agreement was to pay back my parents slowly when I start working again. Finances will play a large role in the decision. Just need to be careful where the money is from, and how it will be earned back in the future if required.

    I'm an international student; did not have the luxury of going down to the school to check out model portfiolios that Ringling is looking for. But I guess the simple guideline I followed was "observational drawing". I can relate to them why they are so particular on that. One way is to help some people who tend to like to draw things from imagination, neglecting details that we might have the potential to draw if we took something as reference. Ringling wants to see that full potential. Ultimately, just make sure your work kicks ass. Obviously if you are able to paint and draw beautiful unicorns or dragons like Sammy Hall, they will be able to see it.

    @ Lane: Wow dude, saw your works in your website. Looks awsome. Are you sure you need to go to an art school with skills of such a level?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizzybeth View Post
    Yeah, debt's a big concern with a lot of people here. And wow, if that's the average debt I'm way out of the average, and I'm on scholarships.... A lot of people go in on it with the idea that they'll be prepared with the necessary skills to go out and enter the industry right after graduation - that's why I'm here. It's a hard risk to take, but at the same time it's an investment in your future - so invest wisely. Not only are we talking about money, we're also talking about four years of your life.
    Agreeing here!

    I'm also on scholarships, which are very helpful (pays to be a Florida resident and have a great portfolio/ GPA 8D!) But even with scholarships I'm looking at a little more then what was said about average debt.
    Here's some advice if you're really hurting for money.

    Go to a local community college for a year first and load up on classes. Not only did I get rid of all the non-major related classes I would have to take senior year, but I also get to pay less my senior year, since, I'm only taking a few classes which means I'm not full time. I also made my GPA higher this way, and best of all, it was all FREEEEE.

    Also, my freshman and sophomore year, I went ahead and got some private loans to cover anything that scholarships/ federal loans didn't. They required I pay during the school year. Whats the benefit? I didn't have to pay any interest what so ever. Private loans have pretty high interest rates, one reason why the total sum of money owed by your senior year is high. it was hard, since working and being in Computer animation is very hard, but I managed to get all A's and pay off the loan on time, so it is possible! It's just very hard work (LOTS of sleepless nights).
    Also, live OFF campus! Living on campus has it's benefits sure, but for 400+ less you can live off campus, right next door, and save a lot of money. Cook for yourself (I lived on rice and ramen ) and spend much less a day then if you're on a meal plan (which can be about 8$ a day)
    And of course, look for local scholarships (online too) even something as small as 150 dollars can make a huge difference. Ringling has a list of local scholarships you can check out

    And of course, ANNOY the people in Financial aid. ANNOY THEM! They will want you to go away and will throw money at you
    Nah, but really, just make yourself known there. They are very nice and if you beg enough/ make yourself known they will know how bad you want to be here and will consider you when hand outs come up. Be sure to write lots of thank you letters as well!

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    Woww, sorry guys! I said I'd post some of the details of the open house on here, but I got so caught up with the end of the quarter and getting and making sure everything was done it went way over my head.

    Open house was fantastic- the professors and students were very kind, and it was obvious they were very passionate about their jobs. I didn't have time to go to the CA lecture, but I went to the Illustration lecture and it was epic! He showed some artwork [which is on their website] and talked about careers you could do with an illustration major. Basically everything Ringling students have talked about on this, and previous forum's is what the Professor told me. I'd just be kicking up old dust if I repeated old comments xD' One of the odd/cool things I learned from my tour guide was that they're actually really serious about Quidditch- they're going to nationals or something along that sort. Not really relevant to what others wanted to know, but I thought it was an interesting little fact.


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