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    Learning to draw

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    Progress update mid-2014: imagination is kind of back, motivation is not. But I am drawing a bit more, I think - or at least thinking about art more.
    Progress update 2013: Still having trouble with the ol' imagination. Think I misplaced it somewhere.
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    Hi all, I'm sixteen this year (20 now! o_o WHY AM I 20?) and just joined CA. So I've been drawing for quite a number of years but I've never been good at it. Most of my stuff looks like the attachment. I started off with imitating manga so all the stuff I do has some degree of stylization to it, even my observation drawings.

    At the start of this year I began trying to move away from that and now a more realistic look, like what most people here are doing, is starting to appeal to me more.

    Edit; thanks asiJa for reminding me about this: But at the same time I'm also afraid of getting stuck and only being able to draw in that way after a while. So I'm going to try interspersing more technical practice with the usual stuff I do.

    I've never used photo or life reference for any drawings of people, and of other things probably only 0.5% of the time. The end result is that most of the time I have no clue about what I'm drawing, about the form and the way light works on it and how it interacts with other things. So I realized that I probably need to start doing loads of studies and sketching from observation.

    Now if I knew where to start...
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    Found a PDF of Andrew Loomis' "Fun with a Pencil" linked by someone around here. Trying out some of the ball doodle exercises...I seem to have a problem drawing circles.
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    awesome you're a beginner just like me! I had the same problem as you except I had learned how to draw from dragonball-z which is even worse.
    but I found some good reference sites and borrowed some anatomy books from the library and i was good.
    You seem to have "The eye" which is like the first step in becoming an artist.
    Having "The eye" means you're able to draw what you see in-front of you instead of a symbol of that object.
    It's the difference between
    Learning to draw
    which actually looks like a tree.

    and
    Learning to draw
    which looks absolutely nothing like a tree but is just a symbol of one (which is why you're still able to recognize it for what it is).

    compared to getting over that big hurdle the next 3 parts - the anatomy and lighting and color - are a piece of cake.

    here's some good anatomy links:
    posemaniacs
    CharacterDesigns

    a great overall tutorial would be the PSG art tutorial

    and for everything else there's artlinks.
    it's a very good resource but be careful you dont spend the whole day there looking at all the different links. lol it's almost as bad as TV tropes.
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    Thanks gamersgene for the links. I tried doing some sketches off Posemaniacs...

    Didn't go very well, these took me an hour (or more) to do. The ones near the top were using the pose viewer set to 60 seconds, but it was too fast and I couldn't complete the sketches. Afterwards I just clicked through some random poses one by one. The hands are my left hand.

    I realized I'm having some trouble with getting proportions right, like the way the different lengths of things relate to each other.
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    hi krysjez,
    to your first note - it's imortaint to know what you want to be able to paint. There people who makes great emotional characters (like linda bergkvist) but cannot do anything other, and people who can cast impression from almost any topic (Craig Mullins) but don't bother with details. Both are very good, and nobody probably can everything.

    So I think painting from references to get realism is not the only way, Don't loose emotions which I can see from the first picture. Sure, you need practise pose, prespective, composition and such things, but you can specialize. You don't need to "just train" on boring things, you can prectise on things you love.
    look for example on artkitty http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=78513 , which I really like. I think it's a style which can fit you.
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    Thanks asiJa for that link. Yes, that kind of thing like artkitty's work is what I'm aiming for eventually. I just want to draw pretty girls actually...but to do that first I have to get the basics right which is what I am trying now.
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    Nice drawings so far! Keep it up!
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    personally i think they're pretty good. you shouldn't bag on yourself just cause it's not perfect, it can really stifle your creative side. the only one that seems to have proportion problems is the one you drew the sad face on, the arms are kinda short. whats i would suggest doing is finding an accurate anatomy cheat sheet that shows you how the proportions are supposed to be. hide the cheet sheet away on your desktop somewhere and just do your sketches as you normally would and when you're done compare them to the cheat sheet to see if and where you're going wrong.
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    I honestly don't see anything wrong with the gestures from Posemaniacs, krysjez! Even if you feel like you're struggling while you draw them, it doesn't show in the final results. Just keep practicing, and soon they will feel easy!

    Have you drawn any figures (head to toe) from imagination yet? I see lots of heads and one girl from the waist up, but none that show the figure from head to foot.
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    I like it!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by krysjez View Post
    Hi all, I'm sixteen this year and just joined CA. So I've been drawing for quite a number of years but I've never been good at it. Most of my stuff looks like the attachment. I started off with imitating manga so all the stuff I do has some degree of stylization to it, even my observation drawings.

    At the start of this year I began trying to move away from that and now a more realistic look, like what most people here are doing, is starting to appeal to me more.

    Edit; thanks asiJa for reminding me about this: But at the same time I'm also afraid of getting stuck and only being able to draw in that way after a while. So I'm going to try interspersing more technical practice with the usual stuff I do.

    I've never used photo or life reference for any drawings of people, and of other things probably only 0.5% of the time. The end result is that most of the time I have no clue about what I'm drawing, about the form and the way light works on it and how it interacts with other things. So I realized that I probably need to start doing loads of studies and sketching from observation.

    Now if I knew where to start...
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    Mostly imagined stuff today.

    In the first one I was trying to draw a quote from our discipline master about some noise control mechanism for classes. It didn't work out obviously...below that, trying to remember what I saw in someone's sketchbook about ellipses in perspective, and figuring out the difference between 2-point and 3-point perspective.

    Next we have heads from Fun With A Pencil, some vaguely cuboid shapes after Marlee mentioned that it's deceptively hard to draw cubes. The bottom right is a "comely fortune-teller who's a magnet for trouble" (from Seventh Sanctum's character generator). My friend's marker is really fun to use but there's trouble with the arms and hands.

    Third is some observation drawings. Curved appendages give me trouble, apparently: I spent a long time trying to get the handle of the cup and the clip of the pen right.

    Furiana seems to be right, I really seem to have a phobia of drawing anything below the chest...

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    Have you drawn any figures (head to toe) from imagination yet? I see lots of heads and one girl from the waist up, but none that show the figure from head to foot.
    And for the last picture, today during a lecture I was trying to describe Wonder Woman's new costume to my friend and ended up trying to draw it from memory instead. That is pretty much the only legs-included pose I can draw right now, sad to say. The girl on the right is a classmate, but it ended up a little distorted when I sat up straight because I was drawing while leaning back in my chair.

    It's so difficult to draw people who are moving! No time for Posemaniacs sketches today, there is homework to be done.
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    I was really impressed with that last batch, especially the fortune teller and wonderwoman. keep it up!
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    Hey, you've got some really good stuff going on here. The gestures aren't bad at all, they'll definately improve (though i would 1000% recommend using the 60 second feature for a while. In fact, if you're up to it, do a few pages of 10 second gestures. like, 30 pages. Seriously. It will help you start to see motion rapidly and take it down quicker. Then when you move on to the 60 seconds you'll sit there tapping your pencil and twiddling your thumbs )

    I'd like to see more lifedrawiings, too, especially of people. It will help you break out of any stylization and see things for what they really are.
    Keep working hard , krysjez
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