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July 2nd, 2010 #1
Art Nouveau WII Propaganda Poster - HELP!
My recent discovery of two GIANT tomes of Gil Elvgren's and Alphonse Mucha's work, combined with my WWII-loving-father's birthday, lead to this little piece. Since it is for my dad's birthday, I would like for it to be as aesthetically pleasing as possible. Any critique, advice, red-lining, what have you, would be splendid.
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Looks good. The drawing is nice, although if it were me I'd look a lot more closely at the folding and draping on her coat, trying to find the form a bit more precisely.
I don't know if it matters, but very little about the image suggests World War II to me (I guess that wave she's leaning on indicates she's a WAVE, but I'm not sure it's enough.) Art Nouveau was well out of fashion by the 1940s, and the manga-style rendering of the figure was still about forty years in the future. You might want to think of ways to make it seem more historically correct....maybe she could have an actual hairstyle from the time?
July 2nd, 2010 #3
Giacomo : Thanks for the input!
The coat is supposed to be a peacoat, very thick and wooly, so the figure would be a little muddied underneath - This is just my thought process, I didn't have a reference picture of a woman in a peacoat, so I could be wrong.
As for the WWII tie in, I should have mentioned that there will be text reading something like "I want you in the Navy!"
In regards to art nouveau/manga... I know that art noeveau was out of style. I wasn't going for historical accuracy. Just something unique for my dad to hang in his living room. I am very intrigued though, what about my rendering says "manga" to you? I've been trying to pry myself away from the manga drawing style for the better part of a decade, and I thought I had it all stamped out of me at this point. I don't want to draw manga art, so knowing anything that specificly says "manga" to you in this drawing would help me out.
July 2nd, 2010 #4
This looks great. Very true to Alphonse Mucha. The hand on the wave needs to be redrawn. The elbo on the opposite side is too high and the proportions of both arms don't match.
As for the anime comment it has to do with the eyes, nose and mouth proportions. Personally I think good anime has a heavy Mucha influence. If you are focused on good clean simple line work people will allways associate it with anime and anime will always be a psychological reference. So if you want to distance yourself from anime, then try to keep any stylization out of her facial proportions.
You might want to check out http://www.bawidamann.com/gallery/military.html
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Not sure about the idea of the wave. Its too surreal, I think, for someone who is a WWII buff.
How about finding some nice reference of some WWII aircraft to put behind the girl. That would really add some strong design element and strong WWII element at once. And instead of nouveau, why not go for a graphic that relates to WWII, like a giant american star?
I like the drawing so far,
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For an idea of a woman wearing a peacoat, how about this:
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July 2nd, 2010 #8
I'd try kicking the left foot out and doing a salute with the left hand.
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July 6th, 2010 #10
I love the sketch! As soon as I saw it I knew where you were going with it.
I ware my husband's pea-jacket during the winter it's not fitted at all but honestly use your creative license and make it a little more fitted around the waist if that's what you want to do(just my 2 cents).
I bet once you get into coloring and shading it will really look fantastic!