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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilsondf View Post
    I was talking with Feng and I asked him if his school, Art Centre accepts people who's not really good at drawing. He said to me, yes what they were looking for were passionate people with some drawing skills because the skills part is what the schools job is to teach.

    The same applies with FZD I guess, that's why there are those questions like, which movies/projects would you like to work on and name your favorite artists/designers pop up.

    http://www.wilsondf.deviantart.com/ - pretty outdated but I think some of my portfolio stuff I sent the school is in there. hope it helps.

    I was lucky to be one of the internationals to get accepted. Inquire on when their license for accepting international student is going to be renewed. or maybe their gathering as many applicants first before scheduling a renew.

    Second term is insane.
    I'm an international student applying for FZDSchool as well - I couldn't go for the October 2010 intake, as as you've said, the license to bring in international students expired. They said that it hopefully would be renewed by February 2011, and I intend to go for that intake (Deadline for submission is the 21st of January, but talking to Junying, she advised that I submit my documents prior to December's end).

    My portfolio when I submitted it about half a year back is here. I'll be submitting an updated one soon as well. I'm also preparing to go to Singapore soon to review accommodations and stuff.

    Wilson, are you already attending FZD, or applying like me?

    Btw, saprissa, email Jungying Charmaine (Think I butchered her name there) and ask her for 2 PDFs regarding accommodation put together by the Singaporean Government - I got it a couple of days ago when asking about places to stay. And it is very thorough - there are lots of options, ranging from Hostels, Hotels, Private Apartments, Serviced Apartments, etc.
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    Hi Rabbi

    yeah already attending since June, but really waited for almost a year since it took awhile for them to get internationals approved.

    Hope to see you soon at the school.
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    hey there people just wanted to thank you for sharing your experiences and portfolios
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    FZD

    Wilson what kind of work are they making you do??? I would like to know so i can practice. are you working on backgrounds, characters, creatures? thank you. please stay in contact with us and tell us your experience.
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    I'm thinking of applying to there in a year or so. That, or art center. My work isn't a 1/5 as good as it should be, but that's because I've really just started drawing 5 months ago and painting about 2-3 weeks ago. For any current international students...is it worth the 40,000 SGD? That's an insane amount of money!
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    I guess you have to pay 40.000 SGD for school, but what do you pay for a residence? Maybe someone who´s international student could say how much you have to calculate to spend one year in singapore =)
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    WILSON'S right get your shit together sooner rather then later .. even if you not 100% sure you will attend .. the process takes some time.. took me 1 year to get in .. i originally applied to get into the june 2009 intake .. but didn't get accepted till june 2010 intake..

    btw its 4am here and i'm just finishing a painting assignment i been working on since friday evening...

    haha wilson... friday .. what happened man?.. every one was dead
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    Guys who are studying in feng zhu, is this school any better for design school. Do they teach more about design sense and how to make believable characters enviroments and props. Judging from the gallery the style of every student is same. Do you find yourself better than before you joined the school? How did you guys manage 40,000 and how are you trying to live over there with other necessities? Any job over there?
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    Hello, like before anything i say is just my own personal opinion and

    hopefully its informative.

    @saprissa9 - characters, backround, etc... everything you see when you

    open a concept art book the school will tackle. and even some projects

    that are product/industrial design based (meaning they actually have to

    be buildable and can function)

    1) As for practice the best advice I can suggest is to practice the

    things that I used to hate and be bored at when opening a How To Book

    about drawing. The Fundamentals and Basics of drawing

    . Of course the first term will teach this stuff but you'd

    improve much faster if your already know them. This is a safeguard than

    attending the school knowing completely nothing about drawing.

    If your not used to drawing these it might be tough and your confidence

    level might drop down early on.

    2) Get used to Photoshop and drawing on the Wacom as well as being

    comfortable drawing with Pen and Paper.

    3) Get used to handle criticism constructively - Think that your art

    directors are employers giving you a project to do. If you don't do your

    job or follow instructions expect to hear what a very unhappy employer

    that gave you a one week deadline will say. True, you can't get fired

    but not because we paid 40,000 SGD you expect to hear dissaproval in "a

    nice way". You came to this school to learn, not to hear Feng and the

    art directors praise your work and get pissed if they think its not good

    enough.

    Honestly I entered the school with a plan like "Impress Feng and he will

    give me a job" kinda mentality becaue I already have drawing experience

    that was so dillusional until I learned that "hey, I'm here to learn

    skills and improve my designs so I'll just do my best work, sometimes it

    might not be as awesome as I imagined it but I will seek improvement." An

    attitude which works better for me. If I was really that good already I

    didn't have to phony up the big tuition for this school.

    Do it for yourself.

    The school trains you to be ready in a studio requirement.. to be

    professional.

    @DeadlyHazard - For me its worth it, also depends how you see it. Early

    on I was dissapointed because my work never turns out as good as Feng's

    demo's and kinda bummed me for a bit but I looked back at old drawings

    and I saw that now I can draw perspective better and can actually draw a

    vehicle (which I never draw before) and I can understand digital painting

    more naturally right now than all the video tutorials I keep amassing.

    I'm one of those guys that have to enter a school to learn, my progress

    via self studying was so slow compared to the first 8 weeks at FZD

    One of the best part is, all those tutorials you have.. you can

    understand them much better.

    I'm from Asia so 40,000 SGD was a lot of money (like 2 Korean cars) it

    took some planning and a lot of saving (I waited a year but I worked in

    Singapore in an architectural firm already) plus support from family.

    The course is only one year so its quite fast which fits my timetable.

    @LastGen - yeah for me 40,000 SGD plus maybe 15,000 SGD 12 month

    allowance. This is just for living expenses... not including if you

    fancy an art book suddenly, etc....

    For residence from what I've heard if you want to live near the school I

    think the average is 2000+ SGD for one room in an apartment or something

    and you might have roomates sharing the place.

    But I don't have the budget to live near the school with an apartment

    just for myself... so....

    I live 45 minutes away from school via MRT but only have to split 800SGD

    rent a month with my roomate. total apartment rent at my area is 1800

    which I split with 4 housemates. So I live off 1500 SGD allowance per

    month including electric bill, train fare and food.

    The apartment rent is the biggest thing to consider budget wise.

    @JawadAyub - regarding Design Sense.. its a pretty subjective thing. FZD

    teaches you how to come up with unique shapes and all those techniques

    where to get inspiration for shapes but its still your own judgement if:

    a) You design looks cool
    b) Your proportions are comfortable to the eye

    The art directors will give comments but ultimately your the one deciding

    what design your going to hand in looks like. They will suggest areas of

    improvement but they will not enumerate all the things you have to change

    until your design looks cool. You have to know yourself if it looks

    right. They will not do the job for you.

    Try copying existing vehicles or appliances exactly even in side view or

    perspective. You might think you copied it exactly but when you show it

    someone who's good at drawing they might see major errors in proportions

    like the distance or size between car wheels are way off. For short, your

    eye can't tell if your drawing "looks" wrong even if your quite familiar

    seeing a car everyday. That might affect how you design in a major way

    since even sci fi vehicles or fantasy characters take proportions from

    existing objects like a normal car or human.

    As for the job.... have a definite plan... After graduation I'll probably

    spend a month or two preparing a portfolio, etc. Study and do really

    well at school first as priority. Thinking about getting a job is

    second. Mentally if I think about it too much I might end up a

    perfectionist in my homeworks because "This has to be super awesome or

    else I won't get work" attitudes will get me nowhere, not saying its a

    bad thing to over achieve but in reality there is waaay to much homework

    and I might not get anything done well. Being a perfectionist while

    still needing to improve and learn some skills might not mix well (for me

    that is). You might end up a nervous wreak.

    Whoa that was long..... I have a life drawing sketchbook due in.... 4

    hours ... 5 pages worth...

    Also I think Internationals can get in again for the... February term..

    so guys... ask around. because I know the school is getting the

    international license assesed presently. Hope to see more internationals

    by next term to share the fun and suffering with.
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    Also for those wondering why the gallery works looks it done by the same person:

    a) chances are they are indeed done by the same person - sometimes the school has a student who outdo's the rest and those are the works that get posted on the website.

    b) The projects they hand out are not individual but by class.

    c) Those who've just started drawing might emulate how the art directors draw.

    d) They look the same because the school is focused on a "product design" approach/look/presentation that will be handed out to 3d modelers and clients or art directors. not the illustrations style that goes to pinups and book covers.
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    @Wilsonf

    Wow dude thanks for the input you giving, please keep us updated i still think 40,000 SGD is too expensive . They should offer installment method what TAD is doing right now which is a bit of an ease for students.
    Anyway have you met any graduate students from 2009 who are doing work and got a job? One more thing does the institute focus on color theory life drawing sessions of human and composition? My portfolio kinda sucks it focus mostly on characters n couple of envrioment. Is that going to be a problem to join a school?
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    @JawadAyub - for internationals you don't have to pay it in one go, its kind of installment 20k before school starts and 20k again by I think end of December.

    40,000 SGD is no joke, so really have a gameplan when you decide to enter the school. If you think TAD is much better, I say go for it. I came to FZD because its just 3 hours away from my country and I like the 1 year timespan.

    As for the the graduates 70% are already hired for the first batch, one got to work in Singapore as a concept designer for MMO RPG's. I heard one got in Ruin Entertainment.

    Color Theory, not sure, I'm still in my second term but we do a lot of Production Painting. Initially the school trains you to see depth and value using greyscale first (like 15 scene paintings each week for 4 weeks in my Batch's case just to nail depth perception using value)

    Life Drawing class - during my first term they introduced figure drawing lessons every friday after class and just last we had our first life drawing session for 2 and a half hours with a model which is free if you sign up

    Composition - you mean scene composition that falls under Feng's class in term 2. He'll teach you how to make a camera shot work.

    I had figures and a couple of environments for my portfolio to so I guess its no problem. You could try emailing the school about their acceptance, etc since that's already internal stuff. In the forums I can only how's my experience.
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    Thanks for replying to the questions, I appreciate that! =)
    You said you have a lot of homework to do. Another artist said he didn´t get enough sleep, his first weeks seemed to be like a torture...can you share that experience? I mean of course you want to draw when you go to an art school, but I don´t think it´s that effective when you have to stay up till next morning to finish your work under such a pressure and this for almost every single week at school.
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