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    Putting the "Pain" in "Painting"

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    Recent Lifedrawings


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    Oh wow! I love the looseness of your line work.These are amazing.I need to work harder now.=)

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    @jwalk yay thanks! have fun!

    here's some more. Two shots at the same pose


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    The first is the initial sketch, the other two are traces from it on transparent paper
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    A few more from the Bunch

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    around 2 hrs


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    hey man!
    Thanks for commenting on my SB.
    About your stuff: It's a bit hard to crit but I'll try. I generally like sketchy stuff and your stuff is sketchy. I also like exaggerations and your figures' anatomy is definitely exaggerated. I also like simplification and your recent sketches aren't too detailed at all. So the direction is good, still something feels a bit wrong with them.
    1.) Lack of real underlying structure
    I can see that your intention with these sketches was not to achieve a very polished look, still definition of the major undeformable masses (e.g. the hip, the ribcage and the head) - both their contour and their basic placement and relation in space - is essential to any good drawing. Having defined these body parts (and even exaggerated if necessary) you can add more details, muscles and stuff much more easily - and in a much more believable way.
    2.) Masculine exaggerations
    Exaggeration is a useful tool, but you should keep in mind wheter you exaggerate female figures or male ones. Exaggeration of male figures can and should include emphasizing every single muscle, making the contour more bumpy and all these kind of stuff. On the contrary when exaggerating the female figures you shouldn't break all those soft, long S and C contours as those are the things that give them a female quality in the first place you should check Frazettas amazons or even Hogarth's female anatomy sketches. Both are exaggerated, kinda muscular and energic, still they keep the contours very simple and curvy, so that the end result look feminine.
    Also when it comes to exaggerations you should really think about what to exaggerate and what not. (this is basically the same process you use for drawing caricatures - maybe you should use some of your caricature drawing methods when it comes to figure drawings - or just look at those figures as you look at your caricature references). Your current exaggerations look kinda arbitrary.
    3.) Blurry shading
    Shading is the best tool to define sturcture (besides contours of course) The problem with your shadings is that they look equally blurry everywhere on the figure. Okay, the forms of the human body are mainly curvy, but I'd suggest you should try doing some flat, cell shading studies.
    That's all, man. Keep on skechin. And do some more caricatures for christ's sake. You're really good at it.


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    thats some sweet advice, thanks a lot!! yea i draw lots of caricatures but most end up unfinished.

    heres some stuff from today

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    great dynamic in ure lines.. keep posting

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    thanks man, i'll do!!

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    I love what you're doing with charcoal/conte and ink.

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    good gracious! go go man. keep doing those figure studies. they help in magical ways. :]

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    Those ink'd figures are just amazing. The gesture of them are great!

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    Heya!

    I agree with Novbert in all regards. You definetly loose alot once you start "rendering" the images. The great dynamism and looseness that you have in the sketches is superb!

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    I love your way of grawing, so rich in energy and vivid! I want to see more

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    Youre way of drawing remind me a bit the work of this french drawer.... http://kiwine.deviantart.com

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    more inksplease , I really like the way you did these!

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    Whoa so many Replies!


    @Psychotime: Thanksalot!!

    @MattGamer: Yes I'll definitely do! Thanks

    @UmpaArt: Thank You!

    @Morgado: Thanks I'll do!

    @dieoblack: Thanks man! You can also edit your posts by clicking the "Edit" Button on the lower right

    @dessinateurimpulsif: Didn't know him. Looks good!

    @arestocrat: OK thanks!



    About my "inked" Girls: Once the sketch is done I put a piece of tracing vellum Paper on top and I try to draw the Image with more Speed and less fear, with more rounded lines. Got this Technique from Alberto Ruiz, who is an aaaawesome artist and Girls-Drawer!


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    Last SP is good. Maybe the mouth looks a bit less "tilted" than the nose and eyes. Try to use that big-stroke technique in your girl sketches, they'll improve a lot.
    Keep up the good work!

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    good looking work! keep it up, when you go for naked women, you cant go wrong!

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    Thanks for the nice comments guys!! Heres a little more:

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    I dig the girlface, and the rinoceros from the last post (though the back looks kinda weird, also it's back legs look a bit too small). Some nice guitar studies there also, though I'd say the linework needs some more refinement and there are some structural issues on them here and there.

    About my "inked" Girls: Once the sketch is done I put a piece of tracing vellum Paper on top and I try to draw the Image with more Speed and less fear, with more rounded lines. Got this Technique from Alberto Ruiz, who is an aaaawesome artist and Girls-Drawer!
    Careful now! You can only say you're using another artist's method if you've spent a reasonable time studying that method. Most of Ruiz's sketches look fairly simple in terms of structure but there's also a great deal of knowledge about female anatomy, well designed exaggerations and also a lot more detail. I'd say you should do some master studies on those Ruiz sketches to check wheter you can replicate the look and feel of those pics with the method you use or not. If you can't that means you don't know enough about it to use it properly

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    @novbert: It's not 'his method', it's basically Inking. I dont try to copy his drawings or style.


    He described this method as good for building line confidence, on whatever subject matter, not only girls. If you're interested, here's what he wrote:



    When I started drawing women I wished for long flowing lines to match the ideas in my head. I found that the vellum paper finish (tracing, onion paper) against the wax of the Col-erase pencil made my lines smoother. The strokes seemed to flow with minimum effort. I stopped using vellum but I do believe it helped a lot. If you're looking to achieve more fluid & cleaner lines, give tracing paper a try

    After you have done the preliminary sketch, lay another sheet of vellum on top and go over it with the pencil as if you were inking it. Only this time you draw faster and without fear, using less lines. I used to do this several times until the drawing became sharper and streamlined.

    By the third or fourth re-draw, you will clearly see thedifference between the first and last sketches.

    For really long lines, do what architects and industrial designers do when they project, put a dot on each end and draw the line in one take from dot to dot.

    The idea is to gain confidence in your stroke, not much different than playing baseball or throwing a football around, the more confidence the more chances you'll take. By drawing on top of your own drawing you won't be ruining the original so you can be as bold as you can be.

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    that last one is trés cool.

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    I liked the line quality in your first posts, also I would love to see more studies where you really get into some structure and anatomy.

    Anyhoot, this stuff looking purdy good, keep it up

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