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July 12th, 2010 #61
You're making some good progress. Keep it up!
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Sebestian: Thanks! Nice to read. I will keep it up, but I need to change my learning method I guess. I think that there's something wrong.
This time I hate to draw human faces. The problem is not that I am not motivated. Because I am motivated. But when I start drawing faces it looks horrible. Big ones, small ones (thumbnails and so on). Really need to get that to a different, very much higher level.
Tips are welcome as always!
July 19th, 2010 #63
Did a quick sketch when I was viewing Frazetta's Painting with Fire movie. Just stopped for some seconds on a special picture and painted it while watching the movie. About 15-20 minutes.
I need to get more into the Frazetta / real / comic style. I want to paint a mixture of them I would say. With thick outlines, lined shadows but in a kind of real. You know what I mean? Can't find the right words now. Maybe in a few days.
July 20th, 2010 #64
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July 21st, 2010 #66
The thumbnail sketches look great.
As for human heads, if you haven't already, you should get a hold of the Loomis head book. The features is this last head look okay, maybe the nose is a bit too big. But you should try to get some more color variation into the skin, and not just a darker color of the same hue. Maybe try to do some photostudies of portraits and really study the colors. Keep it up
July 21st, 2010 #67
July 22nd, 2010 #68
Hat nicht ganz geklappt mit dem "täglich ein bild" ? ( is aba auch anstrengend ;D )
Wir sind ja beide "Anfänger" - mal gucken wie weit wir kommen
Anyway you do great progress - maybe you should start with some anatomy?
keep it up
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July 23rd, 2010 #69
July 24th, 2010 #70
Here's my update for today. Some eyes again, 2 sketches of dark age alike cities and a speed sketch in two colour types with a tree brush made to show my sister how all those things work. She was speechless. Like I was, when I saw what you can do with a computer and a tablet some years ago.
July 24th, 2010 #71
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i agree with my previous speaker - i really digg that you are working on the basic stuff - and dont worry about speed - focus on getting things right this will spare you a lot of time in the long run - i know that it can be really tedious ^^ good drawings are not just a matter of skill but also of patience
i once have been to pride to work on the seemingly easy basics - never be like that i also like the bridgman stuff - want to see more of it !
July 27th, 2010 #73
I rly like the brush style of the environments, great work! I also caught that Republic Commando sketch in there as well, very nice. I wish they would've continued that series... the books are still going though I believe.
The Reapers Sketchbook: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=192955
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July 28th, 2010 #74
Hi guys and thanks for your comments. I will do anatomy, beginning in the next few days. But now I am thinking about which book to buy. I know that there are ebooks for free but the quality isn't that good AND it's pretty incommodious. And of course the real book can be in my backpack when I'm sitting in the train or bus or whatever.
I'm thinking about
Bridgman's "Life drawing"(6 euros), "The complete guide to drawing from life" (13 euros) and
Stephen Roger Peck's "Atlas of Human Anatomy for the Artist" (15 euros).
Which one do you recommend most? I heard, that the Atlas is pretty compfortable for anatomy-beginners and so on. But for about 20 bucks I would be able to buy Brigdman's books for Faces and Heads, thousand Hands and the Human machine.
I really don't know which I should choose. It can be written in english, of course. That means that I don't need a german book.
Tell me what's the best I can actually do with about 20 bucks for getting some resources.
In the right time I'm going to take some photos from my girl or my sister, friends and so on. Just arms, hands, legs, etc., no private stuff, of course. Haha.
July 28th, 2010 #75
I have the Bridgman complete guide to life drawing, which is pretty much all the Bridgman books in one, for sure worth every penny. I don't have the other one.
July 28th, 2010 #76
I would definitely recommend anything on anatomy by Andrew Loomis if you can find it. They're a bit rare, but on the occasion one does stumble upon a copy or perhaps an online pdf of it, I highly suggest it.
The Reapers Sketchbook: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=192955
July 29th, 2010 #77
Here are my drawings for today. Hope you like it. I like BIC cristal stic ballpens anyway .
With which pens, inks and pencils are you drawing? Anything else like erasers, rulers etc.?
It's decided which book I am going to buy for now. I'll take some looks on 'em again, maybe I wait until I am in a bigger city in a bookshop.
July 29th, 2010 #78
hey man good effort, open up loomis's drawing the head and hands, it really helped me to understand the structure of the head and features, and I progressed tons by copying the heads from that book, I highly recommend it.
Try grabbing a pencil and drawing some basic shapes from real life like cube and sphere, cone, the mouse doing as many of those as possible will really help you with values.
July 29th, 2010 #79
Thanks Danny! I will do. Thanks for your comment!
I will do a lot more stuff tomorrow. But I'm not sure how to start, should I start with only heads and faces, or with anatomy (the whole anatomy pretty rough) and get better at it and get into more details or should I just do what I want and what I need to learn? I hooe that I can find the best way for me.
It's so much fun, I want to draw but my bed is calling my name for about 4 hours, hahaha.
July 31st, 2010 #80
I've found your sketchbook while visiting my friend's Danny's one.
The improvement over those 3 pages is surealy visible however you should focus on learning the most basic and boring of all basics, drawing cubes, cones, cylinders etc in perspective and shaded, being lit by various types of light and such.
I know it's not very exciting, but trust me it will make your more complicated stuff waaaay better, I myselfdid skip alot of this elementary stuff and now have to go back to it.
Perspective is crucial for any CA, Illustrator, Architecht etc, basicly everyone who has to deal with the problems of more or less realistic drawing.
Here's some examples of where the perspective knowledge can get you:
July 31st, 2010 #81
Thanks for your explanation. I know what you mean. The problem (as you know it, too ) is that I often want to get something done. Special things. Not the really basic stuff. There's nothing against the basics, but when you're painting you want good work.
I will get into it. Do you have good book- or website tips for me? Or better, good sketchbooks, like Danny's?
Thanks, I'm going to sharpen my pencils
July 31st, 2010 #82
July 31st, 2010 #83
Hey guys, for Anatomy, Faces, Hands etc. you REALLY NEED to take a look at this! I TOTALLY LOVE it!!!! DA rules. CA rules, too.
But DA has more possibilities for groups and sharing informations pretty much better, faster and a lot more comproftable.
I'm drawing for about 6 hours today. And there's no end in sight!
Last edited by Charmer; July 31st, 2010 at 09:17 PM.
August 1st, 2010 #84
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August 2nd, 2010 #86
Tasser, sup dude? great you started with basics and you should stick with them for quite some time, you can do basic shapes from life and other basic studies together with anatomy figure and head studies they go together really well.
Books I could recommend from the following Authors: Andrew Loomis, all of his books, George Bridgeman, all of his books, Hogarth, Vanderpool, and there are others but these are the best ones in my opinion.
For figure and anatomy studies you can start doing 30-60sec poses at www.posemaniacs.com really helps.
August 2nd, 2010 #87
August 2nd, 2010 #88
Posemaniacs look good, and yeah time really flies when doing those. I do 3-5 pages of 30 seconds poses every morning for warm up.
August 2nd, 2010 #89
Ok ok so here's another tip set:
- try to be less messy ( the accuracy of single "fluid" strokes is amazing )
Get a book called " Force the drawing for animation" or something like that my friend has borrowed me it for awhile and it had great tips i need to get once copy myself.
-observer, observe, observe
-analyze, analyze, analyze
Don't just try to copy what you see, try to transalet it to graphical interpretation of yourself, everyone has different taste which to leave out, make loose or stylise. Find your own uniqe taste.
Well i don't have any perspective book, as you asked. I just have the perspective basics here at school but i will definitely have to strike it, as it's my biggest weakness atm.
I know all this yabbling may sound philosophical in many ways, but try to engrave it in your mind.
Ah last but not least, in perspective you can do everything from cubes and elipses, so practice them the most. Draw elipses inside of a box etc, and rememmber everything goes to a vanishing point, EVERYTHING.
Good luck Flo.
August 2nd, 2010 #90
I rule. Hahaha.
Or maybe not
Thanks for your tips. The chaos of my millions of lines is a thing I have noticed today and I hate that.
I really don't know how to get only the "needed" stuff done. I don't know what's needless or what's needed FOR THE MOMENT.
There are at least 5 or 6 books I should get into my head and my hands but I don't know where to start for the best improvement in the shortest time (I know it wont be done in some days or weeks, but I mean that I'm learning for example 2 months with the same improvement result of doodling around for a year without any plan or idea how to get those things done.)
Do you think something like a week-schedule would be a nice idea?
warmup - 20 poses from the 30 sec posemaniacs
1 portrait, 5 poses from mind with each gender, one of those to detail or speedpaint
warmup - 10 eyes, 10 noses, 4 faces (2 male, 2 female)
1 portrait, 2 different animals
something like that.
I'm not sure about that idea, do you know other guys in here which have a scheudule or somekinda that?
Best regards to all you dudes & dudettes.
Last edited by Charmer; August 2nd, 2010 at 07:38 PM.